The E-tec debate pros and cons

[Steven78]

I have been reading this article these people seem to be very well informed
http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...ral/ETEC1.aspx
I and sick to death about E-tec bashing just because people dont like new things or change. All brands of donks have there issues its a mater of wieghing them up to suit your purpose. I know people with other popular brands with major issuses but they put them asside. I think the PR of BRD is not the best its more yank wank stuff which is not suited by us dinkydie aussise. Please fell free to comment and I hope I have not offended to many people.

Please dont give up on the E-tec / poly jokes as they are funny

Cya Steve

[juju]

The best rig you can get is a 12 foot bondwood, powerd by a seagull ...towed by a EH holden...if you want to do beach stuff look at a series 1 landrover.....10 foot cane rod with a alvey (rosewood spool)......blue platypus mono line.....
It will all come back i tell ya......look at water tanks!!........i got my E-tec........very happy with it.....as i am with my drink can boat.....not like he good drink cans that were made of steel but....of when coke came in a bottle and you got a bonus handline out of it when it was empty......im happy to try something new.....no ones invented the perfect outboard yet...all have a problem from time to time....who cares as long as your happy with...your paying for it after all......
PS i still stand by my purchase of a beta vcr !!

[Shane Dyer]

steve i have heard of some bad feedback or you could maybe call them rumours of boaties having a lot of trouble with e-tec's,but as i know a few boaties that are running them and they have only praise for them. I guess seeing is believing. The only query i have with the E-tec (will only ever be proven over time)is it seems to be such a small block to hp ratio.does this mean that smaller lighter parts have been used to achieve a lighter smaller motor that would have a smaller bore stroke which would increase reving capacity,this is only an observation/theory that may be proven in time to be rubbish.in saying that from what knowledge i have of the current E-tec i wouldnt hesitate to have one on my boat.

[Shane Dyer]

spot on champion

[juju]

Im yet to come across anyone who has had any real problems, ...yes you can get feedback problems witha 27 meg,..yes i hate the way you cant see the tell tail to check its pumping water when your running along......but so far ive found nothing that would put me off getting another one........i reckon too many people make a big deal about the no service for 3 years bit.......i had mine checked after 30 hours.....there is no reason why you cant get a service done when you like ......then out comes the fitec bit.........but thats like saying a 07 falcon is no good because the 2000 model had some problem......im sure if there were real problems forums like this would have been alive with gossip by now......then you get the comment "wait until they hit 200 hours".......its a no win........polycrafts will crack up after 10 years.....its gos on and on.....

[Steven78]

Thanks for the comments and keep them coming. I am the same I am yet to find someone that owns or had owned an E-etc that had major problems which could not be fixed. I know there were a few dealers that had problems in the past as allot of the techs had to learn them and build up fault history knowledge to fix things. Plus the Tech working on them now need better PC skills.

[Shane Dyer]

that is a fantastic point steven,modern technology is moving at such a rapid rate in the design and construction process by the manufacturers,but in some cases lagging behind in the after sales and service processes. The reason can only be lack of technician training by either a dealership or perhaps not enough info from bombardier to the dealership. The other scenario could possibly be that the Marine Mechanic trade could be an ageing one and the older generation struggling to keep up with the modern technology,which can be understandable.I have been in the plumbing industry for many years and see it quite regularly and in more cases than not its not that ageing tradesman arent capable but simply tired and arent willing to learn modern technology as they consider to be winding down their career. Maybe a Marine mechanic/technician who may read this give a respsonse to my opinion and also thoughts on their experience with E-TECS.

[BM]

BRP's marketing really is better than peopel realise because we see so many posts on so many forums about "Etecs" when the posts really should be referring to "Direct Injection 2 strokes".....

An etec is an opti is a hpdi is a TLDI..... all direct injection 2 stroke engines. Essentially the same technology but differnet ways of reaching the endpoint.

Really, if we are going to sh!tcan etecs we better include all the other DI engines coz its the same thing with a different colour and name.....

And ultimately, they are here to stay. The outboard future is 4 stroke and DI 2 stroke.

Cheers

[juju]

You would think that this was a complete new maker, sure its BRP as the owners, but its not a bunch of first timers making the outboard.....i watched a show on cable where the took you to the factory and explained the tinking behind why they did this and that......they started from the ground up and had a look at all systems and then looked to how improvements could be made, or if something was better left because it was reliable...the testing area was interesting..they were flogging the guts out of them...sure you didnt see anything fail...but it made good viewing

[blaze]

made for some interesting reading, but to be fair to your self make sure you read all the links too. I found it to be an unbais review and the best I have seen.
cheers
blaze

[Mercury16]

I recieved a free DVD informing you of how good the e-tec is. And in some of the tests i believe they were "untrue" or "rigged"
after Reading the article about the Drag race. There are claims about the reason they used the verado (4 stroke) is so evinrude would win. But shouldnt they test 2 stroke against 2 stroke? In this case the optimax should be the competitor. Also i have a copy of club marine magazine and it has a 1 page advertisement for the optimax and it tested a 90hp e-tec against a 90hp optimax in the "drag race" and its results conclude that the optimax reached a top end speed of 69 but the evinrude only reached 67. Also in the dvd the evinrude proved to be more fuel efficiant then the verdao. again it can be argued that they used a verado in fear that the optimax would win this challenge. In the mercury advertisement it did. 3.28 Kilometres on one Litre of fuel and the e-tec did 2.85. this is just my opinion on what i have seen.
i will attach a scanned copy of this article in the next post.

Peter

[Mercury16]

Here is the advertisment.
sorry it isnt as clear as it could have been.
cheers Peter

[disorderly]

Mercury16,

If you read all of the link provided,all of your questions will be answered.
It seems to be a well researched detailed analysis of the claims made by BRP as well as providing info on the test that you have mentioned.

Scott

[Steven78]

As i said before all Donks have there good point thats why we buy them.

[bushbeachboy]

It's very similar to the Poly boats thing. IMO they are good boats, but everyone won't like them. And people keep bashing poly boats, but it makes no difference to me. I own one and like it, but if you don't then don't buy one. Vote with your wallet.

And I think it's ok to stir a bit too. I'm happy to tell tinny owners that they have a rough riding noisy dog dish. And they're happy to tell me I own tupperware or a wheelie bin. It's all a bit of fun. It's even better if you have more fish in your esky at the end of the day.

So if you own an etec, be advised that it's an expensive overweight anchor. Not like my trusty, light Yammie carby 2 stroke. Hehe.