How good are 140 HP Johnson / Suzuki 2004

[Chimo]

Hi All

Thinking about a boat fitted with 140 HP Johnson /Suzuki 4 stroke that done about 480 hrs mostly towing lures for marlin.

What is the lifespan of 140 HP 4 Stokes used this way?

Who services them? Suzuki or BRP or either, are the parts totally interchagable?

What does one need to know about this motor?

Its a 2004 so wondering what the likelyhood of future problems after use like this and what the white "Suzukis" are worth.

Thanks in anticipation

Cheers
Chimo

[soulfish]

chimo, nice looking voyager

[BM]

Chimo, as you are no doubt aware the Suzuki/Johnson 4 stroke is the same engine. It was a joint technology agreement. The same as the Mercury/Yamaha 4 stroke agreement. They are Yamaha engines.

Now given that BRP is getting out of the 4 stroke market all together and plans to have Johnson engines only up to 30hp and then delete them altogether as I understand it, the value of a Johnson branded 4 stroke will fall through the floor.....

Even though its exactly the same as the Suzi model there will always be the stigma/perception that its an "out of production" engine. I would not touch a Johnson 4 stroke for this reason and this reason alone. Unless you are getting the engine for an absolute song because once the situation becomes common knowledge those engines will have very little value at all....

Even though spare parts will be available for 10 yrs as per our legal requirements (but probably from Suzi anyway) and then for a lot longer under the Suzi name that won't change the effect that "out of production" has on the marketplace.

Out of production engine has close to ZERO value in the average consumers eye, so bear that FIRMLY in mind when considering buying something that quite simply NO LONGER EXISTS............

Hope I've made it plain enough for you coz they will have about the same value as the original OMC Ficht engines.......

Cheers

[Smithy]

Yep nice looking Voyager, the one from Coffs I am guessing.

[bay_firey]

so,
how do we know it is a voyager and where are the pics / link ??

[Chimo]

Hi Guys

Thanks BM Interesting stuff to be aware of.

Hey you others , stick to the subject, your getting distracted This sort of diversionary behaviour is why our other halves sometimes comment that we need to focus on the issue at hand rather than the stuff some of us do

Cheers
Chimo

[fishing111]

Its a Suzuki engine painted white, "big deal". Everyone knows that Johno 4's are white Zuk's. As for plumetting prices and resale from BM...laughable.. One motors painted white, the other black,WOOPTY DOO.. It would not sway me in the least, as long as the motor was in good nick.

[Dan5]

Mate i had the 70hp 4strk did over 4700hrs and it is still going strong my mate bought it off me don't worry about brand name get a reliable engine which these definatly are all the pro's here have switched over to them and reckon that they are the best engine yet.Part's won't be an issue get em from suzuki.You will love that engine once you've had it for a little while.I would rather buy one of those engines second hand than a brand new merc or yammie just heard to many bad reports on those engine's also used to do the maintence on 4strk yams and give me a suzi any day. Cheers Dan....

[BM]

Its a Suzuki engine painted white, "big deal". Everyone knows that Johno 4's are white Zuk's. As for plumetting prices and resale from BM...laughable.. One motors painted white, the other black,WOOPTY DOO.. It would not sway me in the least, as long as the motor was in good nick.

To each his own opinion Paul251. I assume you are a boat dealer also??? If not then you are talking about your own personal opinion and thats it.... I am not.

Mate, its a bit like Chrysler. They were the best technology engines of their time. The business was sold off dueto political issues in the US and it never recovered ground. So when it can happen to the best outboard brand it can happen to any outboard brand that ceases production.

[chainsaw]

Chimo, For what its worth I just bought a Suzy 115HP 4str that had over 2100 Hrs on it in 3yrs use, seen the servicing records and bought it at a good price so i'm happy with it. The chap bought exactly the same new motor again (he leases them for tax reasons same as taxi drivers do) Being a mechanic I had no hesitation.

Rod

[BM]

It might be worth my while pointing out that I have not stated or insinuated that the Suzi 4 stroke is a bad engine. Far from it. By all reports they are a very good engine.

My response is in DIRECT relation to the original post which is referring to the Johnson branding of the engine.

[Roughasguts]

So are there any other identification marks or numbers on that engine to tell it apart from the Suzuki.

Cause I would be tempted to get the Suzuki decals, and the exact paint and return it to an ordinary looking Suzuki.

Mind you buying at a reduced rate could be a bonus me thinks.

[Dan5]

Hey look Chimo every one knows that the johnno 4strks are suzi's so don't let the white paint job worry you.The rigging kit is the only difference as far as i know the engine that i had was a evinrude at the time suzi wasn't selling in australia i had my outboard serviced by suzi and johnno dealers a few times neither had any issues as they both said 'well it's a suzi anyway'. And it will now give you the option of choosing a dealer to service it.They are a top motor and you will be happy.I think that someone valuing the motor at zero is a crock of shit where do you pick up a late model 115hp 4strk efi engine for sweet FA? absoultly nowhere! And you would know this by now as it sounds like you are doing your homework if the boat/motor are what you want at a good price jump on it...Happy trouble free boating........DAN....

[soulfish]

chimo, i have a mate with 800hrs up with twin 140 sukes,great engines,never missed a beat.asuming that the boat your looking at is the one smithy is asuming as well,i think those engines would be perfect.what's wrong with the vag you've got mate?after previously owning 2 vag's and spending a lot of time on a mates voyager i'd be looking for a boat that didn't have a little man throwing buckets of water in my face every time i idoled back to a mark for another drift.{15-20knts head sea}beatiful well built boats but submarines in slop.got to duck like kosta!

[fishing111]

To each his own opinion Paul251. I assume you are a boat dealer also??? If not then you are talking about your own personal opinion and thats it.... I am not.

So what i've written is my own personal oppinion, and what you've written is gospel. So sorry Lord !

There the same bloody engine. FACT
You can get parts through Suzuki/Johnson. FACT
There not a discontinued line like Chrysler, just a white Zuk. FACT
Zero value, get serious, if someone was trying to sell me that rubish i would high tail it quicker than the Flash,FACT.