Info on Daiwa reels

[HH17L]

Hi, I have just purchased a pair of Daiwa reels, bit of an impulse buy, but the price was right. They are a Luvias 3000 & a Caldia Kix 3500, i intend to use them for fishing in the bay. I take it they would be suitable for braid, but cant decide on a suitable rod, i am looking at around 7ft, 4-6kg with fast action. I have narrowed it down to a Starlo Stick, Dropshot or Sicstick, just have to find some prices for the rods. Anyone want to give me some ideas on these rod choices, also what pound braid & leader i should be using, as i am hoping to use these for snapper in the coming months.

Thanks in advance,
Andrew.

[Hardb8]

Hi Andrew,
I don't do alot of the fishing style you mention in ya thread...But I have some m8's that do alot and are skilled with plastics and Snapper in Moreton Bay.I will give ya the information I know on the subject that has been relayed to me.It's a little strange nobody else has replied for ya yet.

These guys are fishing light you might say,And they use the following gear.1000 and 2000 sized spin reels.Twin Powers,Stradics and Sustains.Over a combination of T-Curve and Loomis rods.

Their lenghts vary from 6-7 foot.And have fast actions.Fast action rods suit single hook fishing practices (Bait,Plastics and Spinnerbaits etc) As it will allow you to ram the single hook home with authority.It will indeed help,As Bigger Snapper can have some very hard bits it their mouths.

They fish Fireline in 4 and 6lb strenghts,Attached to flurocarbon leaders ranging from 10 to 15lb.They only fish in around 10 to 20 foot of water,And all their jigheads are under a 1/2oz in weight.3" plastics from varying companies in various colours are what they use.I hear stuff like (Realistic Pumpkinseed and Smelt Scales) all the time,But I'm more of a hard bait fisho and don't take too much notice.I'll see if I can find out more for ya off em on plastic brands and colours.

As mentioned above they are going light compared to some,But remember they fish pretty shallow,And some of these big Knobbys are smart.They regularly land up to six fish a session,With a fair whack around the 60cm mark.I think their biggest is 84cm from 15ft of water on a 4lb main and a 10 lb leader.

I also know they talk about the strenght of the hooks in jigheads alot.And recall conversations of them snapping hooks with their 4lb main and 10lb leader combos while trying to get snagged lures off.(Their knot tying skills are excellent.)I'll try and get some info on these for ya aswell.They also speak of fish dumpin 50 and 60 yards.Then coming up limp,To find a snapped hook,And when whats left arrives,The jighead is inspected to find indentations from old man Snappers teeth,And with a little pressure,It crumbles and falls apart in their hands,Due to the big boys chewing on them in the fight.

I can't offer any advice on the rods you mention,But if you get something to suit the line weight you want to use,Then look at a lenght that suits ya,You should be O.K.Ya reels should do a fine job,And will have no problem being spooled with braided lines,Or fused dyneema (Fireline).

I'll see if they can tell me more about their heads and plastics for ya.

Hope I've been of some help. Cheers.

[breamnut]

mate i have a luvias and u will love it! i have the 2000 size and use it 4 plastic fishin and ive caught everything form bream to jack to trevally on it! awsome reels.
i used to have a stradic 1000 and 2500 and there nothin compaired to them. also go for a dropshot rod as there nice and cheap but still a nice rod.
30 rods to many?? no way you can never have to much gear.
once you have gone a good daiwa you will never go back!!!
go the daiwa.

[breamnut]

Hi Andrew,
I don't do alot of the fishing style you mention in ya thread...But I have some m8's that do alot and are skilled with plastics and Snapper in Moreton Bay.I will give ya the information I know on the subject that has been relayed to me.It's a little strange nobody else has replied for ya yet.

These guys are fishing light you might say,And they use the following gear.1000 and 2000 sized spin reels.Twin Powers,Stradics and Sustains.Over a combination of T-Curve and Loomis rods.

Their lenghts vary from 6-7 foot.And have fast actions.Fast action rods suit single hook fishing practices (Bait,Plastics and Spinnerbaits etc) As it will allow you to ram the single hook home with authority.It will indeed help,As Bigger Snapper can have some very hard bits it their mouths.

They fish Fireline in 4 and 6lb strenghts,Attached to flurocarbon leaders ranging from 10 to 15lb.They only fish in around 10 to 20 foot of water,And all their jigheads are under a 1/2oz in weight.3" plastics from varying companies in various colours are what they use.I hear stuff like (Realistic Pumpkinseed and Smelt Scales) all the time,But I'm more of a hard bait fisho and don't take too much notice.I'll see if I can find out more for ya off em on plastic brands and colours.

As mentioned above they are going light compared to some,But remember they fish pretty shallow,And some of these big Knobbys are smart.They regularly land up to six fish a session,With a fair whack around the 60cm mark.I think their biggest is 84cm from 15ft of water on a 4lb main and a 10 lb leader.

I also know they talk about the strenght of the hooks in jigheads alot.And recall conversations of them snapping hooks with their 4lb main and 10lb leader combos while trying to get snagged lures off.(Their knot tying skills are excellent.)I'll try and get some info on these for ya aswell.They also speak of fish dumpin 50 and 60 yards.Then coming up limp,To find a snapped hook,And when whats left arrives,The jighead is inspected to find indentations from old man Snappers teeth,And with a little pressure,It crumbles and falls apart in their hands,Due to the big boys chewing on them in the fight.

I can't offer any advice on the rods you mention,But if you get something to suit the line weight you want to use,Then look at a lenght that suits ya,You should be O.K.Ya reels should do a fine job,And will have no problem being spooled with braided lines,Or fused dyneema (Fireline).

I'll see if they can tell me more about their heads and plastics for ya.

Hope I've been of some help. Cheers.

mate i dont know what sort of jigheads your mates are fishin but they must be crap! tell them to use TT jigheads cause there built on a gamagatsu hooks.
also hh17L look for your proper baided lines for snapper fishin because fireline is fused and anything from 10lb and over is stiff.
something like your platipus super braid is very limp and extremly thin! infact the 20lb platipus is like 6lb fireline!

[Hardb8]

Hi Breamnut,
I mentioned jigheads as the guys I know that do all the fishin have gone through alot of searching by trial and error,For some that are reliable.I'm pretty sure they have settled on TT's,But I'm not (Certain),And didn't want to give any info that I thought that would having HH17L buying an inferiour product,If there is a better one about.I'm pretty sure there are a few different hook gauges available.Which can also lead you to buying something that may fail.

I understand your comment on the heavier Fireline being stiff,And from 8lb and up does get quite thick.But this is not what I mention in the prevoius post,I believe I also state :-They fish light.

I personally have found Fire line in 4 and 6lb to still be stiff compared to braided lines in the same catagory.I think this actually helps with regards to light spin tackle,As it seems to make the line spring off the spool a little,Opposed to the braided lines dragging over the line on the spool.The braids also have more of a tendancy to hold water within them,Which also contributes to the dragging factor.These two things will reduce casting distance a little.They way these blokes fish is by casting ahead of the boat in the direction they are drifting.And distance can get you to the fish before boat noise can play to much of a part in possibly distracting them from their normal feeding behaviour.

As HH dosen't mention how light he will be going specificly,The right advice can be tricky to give.

[HH17L]

Thanks very much for the replys, i went & spoke to one of the tackle shops a couple of days ago, both reels are now spooled with Team Daiwa TD-SENSOR line & have gone with Seagur leaders on both reels. They have been matched with Berkley Dropshot & Pflueger Trion rods. Could have gone for more expensive rods, but was assured these would do the trick.
Hope to get out next weekend if the weathers ok & give them a try.

Andrew