Suzuki NMEA Engine Interface

[frank100]

Wusty,
Thanks mate ! for your reply.
Now all I need are the sheckles to finance the interface, new sounder etc.

Frank

[Fatenhappy]

Hey leezor ...

Like you I am an advocate of the NMEA 2000 system. I am fortunate enough to be in electronics so really appreciate the simplicity of these systems.

To this end I have imported a fair amount of stuff from radars, lowrance combo sounders and even the LMF 400 combo guage to throw into the system.

I am in the process now of finalising the importation of a pair of 175 HP 25" Suzis for "fatenhappy's" repower from Eds marine superstore in Virginia.

As shown on your setup, I am particularly happy with the sender getting its info from the ECU as it would be far more reliable.

The research I have done on the Suzi NMEA stuff seems to indicate that there are/were two harnesses needed, but having seen your set up obviously that's not entirely true.

Would appreciate if you could flick me the part number of the sender unit so they can be included with my order from the States.

Lastly, can you tell me if your Suzi interface allows you to see the RPM and the trim/tilt of the engine as well. I am trying to get right away from any of the traditional engine guages if at all possible?

Cheers
Greg

[leezor]

Hi Greg, RPM is displayed along with engine hours and a heap of other info. It does have the trim and tilt connector on the loom however I chose not to connect it and use my standard guage. Check out http://store.brownspoint.com/suzuki_page_31.asp for all the part numbers and info on the system.
I advise that you buy all the cables, terminators, t-pieces as well from the US as they cost shite loads over here. I got stung almost $90aud for a 3mt extension cable for my GPS a couple of weeks ago.

Cheers,

Lee

[Luke G]

nevermind..

[honda900]

Mirage,

The advise you have been given is incorrect with regards to disabling your analogue devices. I have an 08 engine and I purchased all the gear to hook it all up.

I have spoken (personally) to both suzuki and Lowrance on how these devices should be connected as I was somewhat concerned about the advise I was given to disconnect my analogue gauges. The reality is that if you disconnect your gauges you may invalidate your warranty - from my phone conversation with suzuki.

There is a second interface on the engine, which is also the service port for you mechanic, this is what you use to connect the interface to. However, you will, like me be really pissed off when you get your conversion cables from LEI which have the wrong plug on the end.

What I have found is that the correct plug end that you need is off a Yamaha gauge wiring loom. It is not a deitz and the connectors can only be bought in either a wiring loom or a yamaha engine rigging kit (not sure of the name exactly) but contains all the connectors and pins.

Look at this thread for more info on how to get it done.

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...ht=suzuki+nmea


Regards
Honda

[mr fisher]

Hi Greg
Hows it going with the motors are eds good to deal with to wat point do they get your motors to im looking at 140 HP suzi do you think it would be worth importing one

[seawasp6666]

Hi greg
The above post was from me mr fisher is my young fellow

[Luke G]

Also Greg are Ed's letting you ship the engines in the crate? When I was looking at doing this earlier I couldn't find a US suzuki dealer that would sell me a brend new engine in a crate.

[Fatenhappy]

Hi guys ...

Seeing the reaction on my importing engines, I will start a new thread rather than impact on a non related subject on Leezas thread .... OK!

Cheers Greg

[Fatenhappy]

Hey Honda ...

From my research on the interface, did you know theres supposed to be an additional small adaptor cable thats also needed that you will need for the interface from the 2008 model onwards???

Just thought I'd ask!
Cheers

[honda900]

liquid-remedy,

yep, I Have the interface converter, Just so you know LEI are making them with the wrong connectory on the end, both the engine and the converstion cable have the male plug, Yeah wasnt real happy when I got it from the states.

You will need to get a Yamaha guage harness, which has the female version of the socket, I had to shop around a lot to find the socket but the yamaha dealer in Capalaba knew what it was.

Regards
Honda.

[Fatenhappy]

Hey Honda ....

Wondering if that includes the link from Leezor http://store.brownspoint.com/suzuki_page_31.asp as that looks pretty much spot on ???

More than willing to take on all advice !!! (... never too old to learn! )

Cheers and thanks Greg

[spinx79]

I've the .luf file for the update of the ep20. Lowrance has sent it to me. I've not tryed because i have a lmf400 and not a plotter with a secure digital slot.
I think that calibration do the same thing.
I'll wait the new ep20 with the temperature and pressure information...

Suzuki 2008 Engine Software Problem

This affects models from the DF150 to the DF250.

In the 2007 and prior Suzuki engines, the fuel flow equation is half of what it is in the 2008 Suzuki engines (for the models indicated above). This means that if a person has a Suzuki engine interface with software for the 2007 engines connected to a 2008 Suzuki engine of one of the models listed above, their fuel flow and related parameters will be half of what it should be. If a Suzuki engine interface with software for the 2008 engines is connected to a 2007 Suzuki engine of one of the models listed above, their fuel flow and related parameters will be twice of what it should be.

Suzuki Engine interface software:

• 2007 and prior fuel flow equation: v1.8.0
• 2008 fuel flow equation: v2.0.0

The next version of gauge and head unit software will allow the user to select the year of the engine when one of the engine models listed above is selected. But, for right now, the best solution is to calibrate the fuel flow at least 3 times to get the equation corrected.

http://primus.lowrance.com search for ep20

[yangr21]

i have 2 DF 250, and i need for sure indication about fuel. i am confused. how can the engine measure the flow? did you install any sensor in?

Today I installed the Suzuki NMEA 2000 engine interface which I ordered from the US.
The installation was pretty straight forward, though I had to remove the side cover from my DF225 and cut the hydraulic line to my steering to route the NMEA cable. Though that wasn't a problem, the dealer where I got the engine gave some replacement fittings, thanks guys

The interface cable connects directly to the engines ECU (as pictured), there is also a second connector which displays engine trim on the NMEA 2000 network. I decided not to connect this up and use the Suzuki analog gauge for now.
There are no paddle wheels or cutting into fuel lines as Suzuki interface cable gets all info directly from the ECU.

I have all NMEA 2000 info displayed onto my Lowrance Globalmap 3500c, it displays plenty of details such as engine hours, lt/per hour, k/m per litre, fuel remaining, cylinder temp plus heaps more.

Though I havn't water tested the system yet, it did register fuel flow at idle which is something that my previous fuel flow system struggled to do.

Let mw know if anyone needs any further info on this setup.

Cheers,

Lee

[leezor]

i have 2 DF 250, and i need for sure indication about fuel. i am confused. how can the engine measure the flow? did you install any sensor in?

Mate, the information comes directly from the ECU so no need for any paddle wheel type sensors. You do however require a Suzuki EP-20 interface which is what plugs directly into the engine loom, you will require one for each engine. Then all you do is hook them up to your NMEA2000 network along with a device that can display the info (such as a Lowrance LMF-400 or Lowrance GPS) and away you go, its that easy.