Another couple of Fish ID's please

[rogersto]

All were too small in my book for the pan and went back to live another day. A few bream around too
All caught on live yabbies

A few hours' on the rocks at Burleigh landed some very beautifully coloured fish, here's a couple you guys may be able to help me with ID'ing, and
1. Are they around in bigger sizes, and where-abouts
2. What are they like as a food fish ?


#1 - Landed heaps of these. All around 15-20cm'ish and tossed back
Pretty fish (love the black dot) but not much of a fighter, mind you swallowed my hook deeeeeeeep !



#2 - This little fella, around 25cm or so, put up one hell of a fight. Love those colours, when I set up a saltwater fishtank, I definetly want at least 2 or 3 of them in there, stunning looking fish, BUT WHAT IS IT ?
Are they around any bigger, if yes whereabouts, and are they an eating fish, and what are they like (in good size)

[CamH]

top one is a Spanish Flag (more commonly known as a stripey) reports are that they are good eating.

Second one is some sort of wrasse.

[ffejsmada]

Top one is a juvenile Moses Perch and the bottom fish is a Wrasse of some type. but what type exactly I wouldn't know.

[ffejsmada]

Sorry, I stand corrected, not a moses Perch but a Stripey as stated earlier.

[Nico.d.R]

the top one looks like a moses perch , normaly they dont have the yellow strips on them (around the creek) but the ones i have caught at tangalooma wrecks had the same yellow lines on them .
im not sure but the second one looks like a small parrot fish could be wrong but it is a simmilar shape and the green might come out more as they age .

[Freeeedom]

I don't think the top one is a Stripey - the stripey (Lutjanus carponotatus) doesn't have a black spot like the one shown, but does have a black spot at the base of the pectoral fin, which this one lacks. I think it's just a juvenile Moses Perch (Lutjanus russelli) which are quite variable with some having the prominent yellow lines and others being mostly just pink with hardly any lines showing.
Cheers Freeeedom

[sambos]

we often catch the moses like one on the shallow reefs off moreton .we call them moonraker but unsure of their correct name as ive only picked it up from others.the other fish is a wrasse species ive only ever caught up to about 1&1/2 times the size of your specimin .moon raker ive only caught to about 35/40cm. ive also had others tell me their the female mosses but im not putting money on it
happy fishing

[Nico.d.R]

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this is a tangalooma moses (i think)
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this is one i caught in the pine its a pretty bad photo but you can see the colour difference and similarity in shape .

[jpart10]

top 1 definently a moses pearch caught many on the reefs in moreton bay and they are at sizes from 25 to 35

Bottom is definently a parrot or tuskfish extremely good eating and great fighter if you want big ones go offshore

[nodds]

The top one is called a Black spot snapper (Lutjanus fulviflammus ) Small juveniles with distinct black line through eye from snout, changing to yellow past head, with one yellow line above and several below. Large black spot with lateral line through middle. With groth, black spot elongates and black eye-line fades. Juveniles inhabit mangroves and freshwater run-offs in small groups,often mixing with similar species. Adoults at moderate depths in shelter of caves on inner reefs. Maximum length 35 cm.

Guide to Sea fishes of Australia, A comprehensive reference for divers & fisherman by Rudie H Kuiter

Hope this helped

[Nico.d.R]

jpart i would say out of the 2 (parrot or tusk) i would go tusk as it looks like it has peg shaped teeth and not big parrot chompers .

[Nico.d.R]

nods , moses perch (lutjanus russelli)are also of the snapper family , i didnt know that . but looking at the tide book it says nothing about yellow strips on moses perch so im starting to think you are right , they do look very similar , whats the legal size on a black spot ?

[nodds]

Nico.d.r, I got no idea what the leagle size is, my book only told me what i printed. Sorry I can't help.

[rob tranter]

Fish One
In NSW Fisheries Hand Book, it certainly looks like a Moses Pearch, no size limit down here however, just a bag limit of 5.

In my What Fish is That Book, again looks like a Moses Perch (also known as, Moses Sea Perch, Moses Snapper, Black Spot Sea Perch.

Fish two deffinitely a wrasse of some saught, we had a bloke land one down here off Minnie Water last year, he id'd it but i'm not sure of exact name.

Rob

[samson]

Definitely a black spot snapper same family as the moses but moses has no stripes and grows alot bigger.

Green Barres Wrasse or Thalassoma Trilobatum very similar to the ladder or surge wrasse with those markings down the side, and they do make a great aquarium fish not much good on the plate though if you can bring yourself to kill one of the little tackers.