I reckon the old flatty wound is underated as far as pain goes. Had a fish with with a mate who copped one in the gut and heel today and didn't appreciate it too much. He generally doesn't whinge too much (unless his stubby is empty) but he did kick up a bit of a stink with the pain of the heel spike. I've copped a heap of pricks from em in different parts of the body but the worst I've had was from a decent lizard flapping around the bottom of my boat (around 65cm) that nailed me right between the toes. Holy fark!!! Not sure what caused so much pain but if it wasn't for the hot bite we were on to I would have passed out. In the end I let him/her go and got amongst a few more with my feet planted firmly on the seat. Cheers.