So far big soft plastics has bought a new meaning to our deep water off shore fishing its just a matter of going out there and trying a few things. I picked up some large jig heads last year at the boat show . I had a bit of trouble with straitening hooks but i got some good TT Lures jig heads with 7 0 game hooks that are awesome . If u are on the northside try Sundown Marine and ask Jason to get you on to some.
Josh
I did a thread ages ago before the revamp of AF website. If you want the photos let me know.Originally Posted by Livey
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...+own+jig+heads
Scalem
Hi Scalem
I looked up the thread and found it very interesting could you please post the photos for me. I love the idea of catching fish on your own handmade gear, and my handbrake is also on so its good to do it cheap as well.
cheers
LOL, Handbrake?? You must be married or something!!Some time this weekend I'll get a chanceWater skiing with the clan all today!
Scalem
Last edited by Scalem; 24-03-2007 at 06:15 AM.
So I have put a few pics together, showing the blank Jig head hook called Mustad Aberdeen, the next shot shows it lying in a standard sinker mould, the next is one that I have had in my tackle box for a few months, but you might notice I wanted just a little bit heavier, so there was a slight mod done to the cavity to contain more lead.
But occasionally I want lighter than what moulds you can buy, say in 1/16th ounce or so. You can buy a pack of splitshot sinkers for about $1.50, position over the bend of the aberdeen hook, and presto!!
The next shot shows I might occasionally touch them up with a soldering iron, which ensures a solid fastening of the splitshot to the aberdeen hook. One hook is soldered, the other is not.
And finally, the splitshot with a 3" Atomic threaded on. How does that look?
I know making them would not be everyone's cuppa, but it is relaxing to crimp splitshots in front of the T.V, and when you pick up Aberdeen hooks from up to $7.00 per pack of 25, it's a heck of a lot cheaper! I catch legal Snapper with these, but have yet to land one over 50cm on a home made hook, but you can lay blame on the user, not the hardware
Scalem
PS. One of the ways you can control the flow of lead within the sinker mould is bluetac. It also helps to position the hook in the mould as you bring the two halves together.
Last edited by Scalem; 24-03-2007 at 08:27 PM.
LOL, Handbrake?? You must be married or something!!Some time this weekend I'll get a chance
Scalem
Married and a newborn, (10weeks old) and thats about the same amount of time that I have been land bound.
Hope the boat remembers to float
Thanks heaps for the pics. I am with you about relaxing and tinkering on fishing gear, though the kitchen table doesnt seem the best place anymore, according to the missus babys and hooks dont mix.
will move operations to the shed
is there a need for the specially shaped hook with a bent eye?
cheers
Livey,
There have been fish caught on standard hooks with plastics threaded on them for years - going back to Mr Twisters, just about anything that wriggled would catch a flathead, and we used to wrap the tails onto standard hooks, getting some results. But if you want to maximise the chance of catching fish, I think using the hooks with the 90 degree bend in them, like the aberdeen hooks you see in the pic, your chances will be far greater IMO. The action the plastic has when you jig it will not be the same with a standard hook. I think fish such as bream will require a more refined approach, using one of these types of hooks or jig heads.
Let me know if you need any more info, happy to help. The table and baby thing.... You'll have to decide for yourself, but you are in dangerous territory where retreat might be your wisest choice.
Scalem
Scalem,
Thanks mate.
Will get stuck into making some ASAP and give a report on how I went. Hope the weather improves for the easter break so I can try this out on some Knobbies.
Cheers
Members keep the tips coming please
Check your PM Livey
Josh, I have seen your replies about using SP's out wide in other threads, and I don't need to repeat anything you have said, so Livey, stick to this man like glue, he knows what he's talking about!!
Scalem
I'll ask, where did you go wrong??
cheers, roo.
TT Headhunters are proving OK for me offshore - try www.lureworld.com.au
Can I say that?
Hello Roo,
Well I'm glad you asked. Crikey, for a bunch of fishermen I thought someone would have taken the bait by now, so thanks Roo!!
You can't use the same reel as you would use in the bay. While you think you have enough line capacity, you don't really. Once you have emptied over half the spool while trying to get the plastic down to the bottom, the line is less cooperative in coming off the spool. The 2nd half of the braid on the spool has to come up and over the lip of the spool, and is sometimes caught momentarily. Any slight resistance here will mean the plastic is held up and not allowed to decend to the bottom naturally, and the deeper water 60+ meters only makes things worse. Again, if I ran all the line off the spool that I usually have for the bay, I'd have enough line to get there, but after half is gone, it gets really difficult.
You generally can't use the same plastics as the bay. I use 3 and 4" plastics in the bay, where the best for outside are 5" and stick baits even bigger, where the 1 ounze Jig head will appear in proportion to the plastic. Colours that work best outside are the LOUD colours. Fluro pink or pearl white, Chartreause, Electric or Nuclear Chicken. I see these two points my major downfalls last time, but I still caught pearlies, which were mid water, the AJ's and Snapper were down further.
Scalem
Cheers Scalem,
yep, the reel needs a lot more line capacity than in the bay....mid you in the bay i use a 1500 symetre with 4lb braid so i wouldn't normally use this outside tho'. What i do use for outside is more suited for bottom bashing and has proved to have it own problems too. The 6000 Penn Applause I use is spooled with 50lb Tuffline XP braid. this doesn't exactly fall off the spool either and needs to be manually stripped off to get the lure down with the relatively light weight jigheads. I'm going to try respooling with 30lb whiplash as this is much thinner, about the same size as 10lb braid. have also needed to upsize my jigheads too, the 7/0's i have are too light(only 1/2oz) and the 5" plastics look too small with a 1oz 7/0 jighead. I've got some 6" ecogear minnows that might be worth a try next time.
cheers for the tips.
Roo.
There you go, The reel I use in the bay is the Penn Applause 4000, so the 6000 is a better suited reel. I forget the brand braid, but Frankoo uses the stuff that is different colours according to the length, but its around $150.00 a spool.
If you get the right combination, hang on!!!
Scalem
I use the td sensor braid on a Penn Affinty 4000 in the the bay and it works great with light jig heads. Out wide i use a Stradic 6000 with a custom made Jack Erskine drag and 30lb bionic braid wich is ok but some times it has trouble coming off the spool .So i might make the upgrade to the coloured td sensor braid to give me more indication on how much line is going out
Josh
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