I think the Theodore coastal either won or came second in its class for boat of the year a few years back....I recently seen a 6.4 meter Bar Crusher ...New Price 99k....Now that is alot of money for a little boat like that...I couldnt justify spending nearly 100k on a boat that i couldnt even sleep on....
Cheers Mick
Snelly makes the theodore look cheap for what you get...
Man 99 for ......
How high can it go ?????
Ta
Well i had a fellow Ausfish member interested in my boat when he seen it a couple of months ago....makes me sort of stop now and rethink how much i should sell it for when i am ready to sell...Maybe i should ask you`s fellow members for your opinions....
cheers Mick
Snelly , Could get a mixed bag asking for that snelly.
Anyway makes you think a bit more about real replacement costs.
I"m going to have to keep mine for a while....
Ta
Yes thats the main point isnt it...replacement cost....I know what exactly to the dollar what it would cost me to replace this rig if i had to start fresh...and i know that i am not going to get anywhere near that when i decide to sell...
Cheers Mick
Decided to keep mine for the very same reasons here. Couldn't justify the cost to by a bigger rig just so I could lie down and have a snooze.
How much does a scaffolder get paid.Originally Posted by Marlin_Mike
Plate or pressed boats may become cheaper in the future but they will come with "made in china" sticker on them. Only a matter of time. I spent 2 months working there last year, mind boggling whats happening there. If they decide to make something, no one can compete.
Probably the only thing stopping them from making boats is the demand.
All boat prices are increased in recent years, glass and ally. My brother was looking a 2nd hand seafarer victorys recently. 10 years ago you could buy a new one for @35k today those same 10 yr old boats are selling for 35k, new ones 65k plus.
If the trend stays the same spending big $ on a boat is not a bad investment. Buy it enjoy it get the same money back when you sell it.
Regards wayne
On the profitiering issue, at the end of the day if those skilled tradies weren't getting paid those big bucks theres no way in hell they would be driving so far up north to do that work. Which lets face it had to be done strait away. With the building trade doing so well at the moment why would a roofer, chippie, plumber or sparky go 1000km for a month, or so, if there wasnt anything in it for them. Who's really getting hurt here? The insurance companies? Like they cant cop it. They've been making us copit for ever why not?
Just my thoughts.
Cheers Chris
Last edited by Lovey80; 20-06-2007 at 10:49 PM.
Democracy: Simply a system that allows the 51% to steal from the other 49%.
Chuss,
Buddy, The price of land has gone up at the same margin, its a no win opition, all I can say tak to your local pollie, they are doing it tuff, they just gave themselves a 6% pay rise for putting up with stupid people like you and me, so what are we doing wrong.
Woopi
exactly why i never sold the "haines"....
when ya on a good thing ..stick to it ....
like today looked around to upgrade my caravan .. 60k plus gee a bloody caravan for what u get
maybe more cost ly than boats ...
i will keep what i got ..thank you...
"whats the time"
Makes you wonder about insurance
Say you pay 60000 for your boat replacement in 5 years 80000
someone back doors you and writes it off at 4 years insurance says its only worth 35000 good luck replacing it
"light gear big fish big fun"
I almost fell over when less than a year ago I found a 5.8m - 6.1 overall aluminium boat with pod, underfloor fuel tank, transom door sold for the everyday price of little more than 9K, it meant I could own it outright and get it onto the water without going into any debt for what I had always considered a depreciating asset, may not even be a depreciationg asset anymore reading above!
Everything I see has doubled in price in the last 10years (new and secondhand vehicles excluded, also handyman tools), yet the 'official' inflation rate is something like an average of 5% (I understand) over these years. Possibly the GOVT uses the depreciation/lack of inflation from fords, holdens and GMCs to offset the true numbers
Pricing in Australia today reminds me on the long held japanese multi-national model. The price is based in each country on what they think is the absolute maximum the people will pay (the same as drug companys do), not the value of the commodity/product + honest profit in days of old, suspect new boats are today priced the same.
This is my last boat due to being an observer of what is going on in the industry,it had better bloodywell hold up for a lot of trips.
cheers fnq
Last edited by FNQCairns; 22-06-2007 at 06:29 AM.
GUESTIMATED COSTS
AUSTRALIAN MADE.......................................... MADE IN CHINA
alloy...................$4500..................... .................$1200
labour wages.....$6000.(5 weeks).....................$1500
windscreens......$1000............................ ...........$ 150
painting ............$4500................................. ......$ 250
apolstery............$1000........................ ...............$ 180
outboard............$9000......................... ...............$3000
trailer.................$3500..................... ....................$ 800
fittings................$1000..................... ....................$180
overheads..........$2500.......................... ...............$ 100
builder profit 25%.$8250......................................$ 5000
dealer mark up......$5500..................................... .$24,720
i'M AN ENGINE RECONDITIONER SO I WILL HAVE A GESTIMATE OF WHAT POSSIBLY GOES INTO AN AVERAGE 5.5 PLATY CENTRE CONSOLE.
SEEMS EASY TO GET TO $45 TO $50K.
CHINESE IMPORTS WOULD BE ABOUT $10,000 CHEAPER.
IF ONLY WE COULD FIND A DEALER AND A BOAT BUILDER WHO DID NOT WANT TO MAKE A PROFIT.
CHEERS
I am proud that I bought an australian made product
In melbourne there is a factory with employees that get paid buy food raise children pay taxes and generally keep the system working.
If the bucks went overseas then none of this would happen. China is a fad at the moment but it wont be long before the people getting paid bugger all in the factories start to demand the standard of living that we have. They will demand more money super cars etc and eventually the cost of goods will rise to a level that is comparable with our country. Unless their government surpresses them
As for boat building I would rathe have a welder that is educated in AUS trained properly and knows his job building my boat. In respect to materials I would rather have alloy that is the right temper grade and quality and not comprimised because it is cheaper.
"light gear big fish big fun"
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