Price of Plateys Out of Control!

[wessel]

For the same price I can get a fibre glass centre console with twin Suz 140 4 strokes, on a trailer, outriggers, overhead rod holders, front and rear bimini off a bermuda t-top (polished aluminium) on a twin axle trailer with full boat covers.

I thought it would be cheaper to hold one and save the money till we get back to Aus one day..... Not so sure about that any more...

Somebody has the cat in a sexually comprised position after dark....

Wessel

[PinHead]

Lucky you fellas don't want a big sparky type job on.
Sparkies on big jobs now have a clause for copper prices and is indexed to copper prices for that day.
Apparently the new Ikea ended up over $400k more expensive because of this.
Something I heard. Not sure if it's true. But I wouldn't doubt it.
When I was working my quotes for long underground runs of power only lasted a week. So prices going up isn't something new as I stopped work 10 years ago.
Maybe timddo was just unfortunate to get that week everything went up.
As for aluminium go and price a length of 25X25X2.5mm square tube or 25X3mm pipe or a sheet of 3mm sheet and when you see that you'd wonder how they build platey's so cheap.

copper goes up all the time..I had another 9% increase last week...that makes total increases of about 38% in the past 18 months...other minerals have done likewise.

[PinHead]

I can tell you from my experience in building my own plate alloy boat. Alloy may seem cheap at around $6 per kilo but look at the labour involved in welding and fabricating these boats. You also have public liability which is through the roof, holiday pay, loading, super, rent on the factory, insurance, maintain all the gear, ongoing running costs, all the out goings, advertising, painting, trailers and so on. I had my own factory for many years and that alone isn’t cheap at all. People that try to work the costs out back wards will always come up way short of the real costs because they dont include all the costs we have just mentioned. Prices are going up, but I can see the price in a plate alloy, I can’t see the value in glass boats.

Stu

you got it right there Stu..try employing people and see how much it actually costs.

resin prices have increased quite a lot also as it is a product of the oil industry.

[snelly1971]

Well I was going to put my Plate boat on the market in the next 6-12 months and upgrade to something bigger.....makes me wonder what she will be worth..???

Cheers Mick

[Marlin_Mike]

Labour is the killer in Australia. I have the same probl;em inscaffolding. LAbour prices are BS.

Workers want more and more for working less and less. Thats why we cant compete with china taiwan etc etc in pricing - our labour costs and demands are outrageous.

Mike

[Wahoo]

Labour is the killer in Australia. I have the same probl;em inscaffolding. LAbour prices are BS.

Workers want more and more for working less and less. Thats why we cant compete with china taiwan etc etc in pricing - our labour costs and demands are outrageous.

Mike

off topic a wee bit

Mike you would of made a killing in Innisfail just after the cyclone
the prices were 5 to 6 fold than what was ment to be, along with everything else, damn joke


Daz

[Marlin_Mike]

off topic a wee bit

Mike you would of made a killing in Innisfail just after the cyclone
the prices were 5 to 6 fold than what was ment to be, along with everything else, damn joke


Daz

People should be jailed for profiterring like that after the cyclone............. i didnt go up there and wouldnt have done that anyway


Mike

[saurian]

Mike at the end of the day it's called supply and demand, not profiteering.
I did the right thing over west after a cyclone and no-one said thankyou.
Anyway snelly , what will you replace your boat with ???
Ta

[Marlin_Mike]

Sorry saurian,. what alot of trades did in Innisfail was outright profiteering and was wrong

Mike

[Wahoo]

Sorry saurian,. what alot of trades did in Innisfail was outright profiteering and was wrong

Mike

thats right, labours wage @ $45ph

profiterring

[snelly1971]

Was thinking alot the line of something like Pete`s boat ..(Grand Marlin)...big cat with inboard diesels..and a lock up cab...that is one option...I also like the theodore Caostal boat as well...

Cheers Mick

[saurian]

Mike &Crackers , didn't know it was that bad.
I just did the loyal thing and watched others get a pat on the back for helping the
Insurance companies/govt departments at rates 30 % above normal....

Snelly , enclosed hard top sounds good, theodore looks good but to much of a game boat for me (Is that the one like capricorn ???)
Ta

[tunaticer]

Being in the manufacturing trade for a very long time now the industry is "cashing in" on the demand a lot more now than say 5 yrs ago. The profit margins are definitely higher and every little extra you want are charged out at full price.
Reality is when you purchase the plate for say a 6m platey the bare plate will cost around 6 to 7k depending on style..............

If only all other areas of manufacturing were that lucrative.


Jack

[rat_catcher]

Snelly , enclosed hard top sounds good, theodore looks good but to much of a game boat for me (Is that the one like capricorn ???)

Yes the Theodore Coastal is very much like what the Capricorn 770 was. I have never been on board the Theodore, but went all over the first Capricorn 770 out of the moulds. Not the prototype, but the first one after the prototype before they pulled the pin on the idea. I thought it was a good concept, but often wonder why it never went ahead.

[Shane Dyer]

gday chuss,i have recently purchased a new plate boat , trailer , and outboard motor. i was very happy with my purchase and with the price. The price worked out good for me because i did my homework and didnt buy as a package.