I am not going to get into the whole "whos fault is it" or the "lets point out stupid ideas" debate...but would like to make a general comment on the industrial/manufacture side of the debate.
Did you know that it takes 4 litres of water to make 1 litre of beer? I wonder how many of you would stop drinking beer to help conserve water. You all say you want the big businesses/industries to conserve water...but how far would you really go?
For all those who thinks industrial water use must be reduced or stopped .Would you say the same if a few thousand jobs lost because of it?So people can water their gardens which are inappropiate for our climate?I have planted a native garden and its thriving without any watering at all.Picking on the "little bloke"sorry but thats where the most water are wasted and used.Get your facts right people before you present them as facts please,referring to industry being the biggest water users .Most importantly stop blaming others and do your bit cause like or not we ALL in it like it or not, your "poor little me"attitude is no help at all.
George
At Heaven's gate a soldier stood,
his story ready to tell,
St Peter said, 'no need my son all is understood,
Go right in cos you've already served your time in Hell'
4 litres of water to make one litre of beer? How do they jam it all in? No wonder it makes me want to p**$ so often!
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Last edited by insideout; 13-03-2007 at 08:22 PM. Reason: double post
maybe they pick on the little guy who is trying his best to do the right thing, because 1 person cannot do damage to them, whereas if the major players-consumers can cry wolf and bury them in litigation, so it is put in the "too hard basket" . Then again, the "powers that be" seem hell bent on a quick fix, which will not work, for the sake of being remembered on a plaque on a dam somewhere. It is a sham, and while we are not doing it as hard as you guys, it will not be long till we are , and it is like butting your head against a brick wall, for you can see a solution to this screw up, but it constantly falls on deaf ears, and again , put into the too hard basket....
Hi all,
Anyone who says buisness uses less water than everyday folk need to get THEIR facts right. Theres only one other goose who says that and thats beatie with the classic "99% of water usage is on gardens" WTF. In this article http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...98-952,00.html ,the water cuts to 2 power stations will save the same amount of water, per day, that 65 000 people use. Do people still waste water YES do they waste as much as business NO. Are there saving to be made still on both sides YES.
I work at bunnings and sell water saving devices and if you had any idea of the volume of sales for inside devices and outside in the garden you would know that the people are doing there bit. Grey water hoses are in the top ten selling lines across the state. water tanks if you want on get in line order today should see it by june! The good brand of rain water diverters for topping up pools etc hopefully get a couple of pallets by the end of the week. Icould keep on going about the products that we constantly sell out of.
My brother in law works in the public service processing rebates for water saving stuff around the home. Due to the amount of water saving buy the general public there processing novembers (4 months ago) applications now. How many of you doubting thomas' have a water tank? No excuse realy there FREE at the moment (if you can get one) brisbane city will give you a thousand dollars and depending on your council they'll offer you up to another $750 and since a standard round 3000 litre tank will set you back $1000 once the rebate comes through a free water tank to wash and flush the boat or wash the car what ever you want the water for.
I dont think anybody has said that business should stop using water and run the risk of losing jobs or that its business' fault that were in a water shortage all people have said is theres substanial saving to be made and business can save the most by FAR. What has been said is they need to start using more recycled water instead of drinking water. It would probably provide jobs rather than axe jobs more jobs at recycling plants (more plants will be needed equalling more jobs again), infrastructure will need to be built could create for more jobs that would be lost.
Andrew
Last edited by sarg; 14-03-2007 at 06:09 AM.
sarg..just because someone is slow processing rebates does not mean people are using less water...just because someone installs a tank does not mean they use less water..they may have a water tank to water gardens, clean cars etc and never use it but still have a 20 minute shower...that is not saving anything.
Yeh I know Pinhead, but i do think the majority are saving decent amounts. And with the rebates they've had to put so many people on to cope with the huge influx of claims, and everything thats being claimed is a water saving device so there has to be a level of water saving. But I do know what you mean.
Andrew
I think most people would agree that we should conserve water regardless of the drought but what I object to that suddenly it's my fault that all the dams have dried up. The people in charge should have been implementing water conservation years ago and increased water storage (dams, etc) but they rather shift the blame.
Of course you can, but only by imersing it in a bucket of soapy water and rubbing it across the windscreen and windows of your car and boat!!!!!Originally Posted by tigermullet
Can we still wash our little white fluffy dogs?
Sarg ,no need for name calling here,i think we on the same side.I speak for both side.I can take a shorter shower at home but i cannot use less water for some procedures in my business,no matter what.My comments were directed a "why me"attitude some of us have.I say it again we all in it together,like it or not.
George
At Heaven's gate a soldier stood,
his story ready to tell,
St Peter said, 'no need my son all is understood,
Go right in cos you've already served your time in Hell'
Sorry George, I only meant to call pete a goose I think he needs new advisors or something the quotes he's come out with so far this year are laughable, the funniest so far IMO is "that daylight saving cause's skin cancer". I'm sure you don't waste water in your business and you shouldn't have to stop using water either why should your have to pay for a lack of forsight from the powers that be. As you said the shortage is here like it or not.
Andrew
some people just don't care ..
the other day i was down at underwood at the big w / woolies refurbishment site. there were a couple of fellas hosing down & scrubbing the canopy over the carpark.
to me it was totally unnecessary as it will be just as filthy in a couple of weeks time anyway, due to road grime & dust from construction going on all around the area.
the problem was, they were using a fire hose , illegal, & wearing raincoats as it was PISSING DOWN..& had obviously had been for a while because they had taken the time to get the wet weather gear on, where do these people come from......
that is a good argument to ban all washing of cars and flushing of boats motors etc..will just end up dirty again very soon.
One more thing that really bothers me ,is the hype of rainwater tanks.Lets say the average tanks is 5000 litres or so .Now if they would have 20000 tanks in the cathment areas where the runoff is going into the dams- and the way we going there would be even more-thats 5000x20000 litres of water not going into the dams.Which is ok cause people got it anyway but would they ration it?No they would use it for washing cars water gardens etc which is not allowed on town water.How is that going to save water for us is beyond me.By the way its 1 billion litres of water we talking about and the figures are very gentle.
George
George
At Heaven's gate a soldier stood,
his story ready to tell,
St Peter said, 'no need my son all is understood,
Go right in cos you've already served your time in Hell'
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