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contrast or hue and actioni believe make a hell of a difference. i dont really think that pink or black or any colour makes the ultimate difference. soft plastics seem to work by action, hue and the individual fishermen over colour. bream will take the darker lures in the night much more than lighter ones, similar to that of bass. so i may be ignorant to the colour side of things but thats my theory.
Gladbream,
Nah not being ignorant, you are entitled to your opinion.
This post is about Barra though, not Bream. You cant compare the feeding habits of the two.
Jas,
I wonder if we "see" in the same spectrum as Barra? Not a criticism as you know more about Barra than I ever will, but when we make judgements on silhouette and colour visibility, we are using our own eyes. Just another part of the mystery I guess.
Yep agree to a certain extent, and certainly not taken as criticism.
But while I have nothing else to measure it against, apart from "theory" it gives me some confidence in what Im doing.
Considering that Barra have a reflective eye (Tapetum lucidum) studies point to an eye that sees details (in daylight hours) such as light reflection, illuminated objects and light angles. During the dark hours, black and white.
So, by going back to the dark muddy water that you cant see your hand in, to me would point to Barra utilizing its full arsenal of its prediatory weapons, not shades or colours.
Primary and secondary senses like the lateral line, its ability to hear, having its senses stimulated by lure or other movement, and its prowess under low light conditions gives me the confidence I need when fishing the dark hours.
Backed up by results, that is, using white, dark, green, blue in complete darkness with equal results on the same night also makes me personally refute those colour claims.
Its up to the individual to take from it what he/she likes, Im continuing on down that path because its interesting to learn from. If you believe in a certain thing, run with it. Everyone will have their own experiences.
If I had fished according to most of the theories that float around about Barra, particuarily impoundment fish, I'd have caught bugger all, learned nothing and probably given up.
As far as Im concerned its the reason a lot of people miss out is because of unsubstantiated theories and second guess work.
What Im trying to do is to motivate people to get out there, leave the phurfries behind, and have a crack. It will improve your overall fishing, will help you think outside the square, and it will apply to whatever species you target.
Only good can come of it.
It means you tried something "different".
If you stay the same, so will your results.
Cheers
Jas
Last edited by the_matrix; 07-03-2007 at 01:15 PM.
Jas, I have to agree with you about colour selection particularly at night. Barra do have a particularly well developed tapetum lucidem. This doesn't affect their ability to see colour though, it is the proportion of rod to cone cells in the retina that affects colour vision. rod cells detect light and dark and cone cells detect colour. Cone cells need stronger light to work so don't work particularly well in the dark, wheres rod cells respond ok at night so therefore at night you will primarily be seeing in black and white. The tapetum lucidem is a reflective layer that reflects light back through the retina. So light comes into the eye and passes through the retina and the cells respond than the light hits the tapetum lucidem behind the retina and is reflected back through the retina giving the cells a second chance to respond to the light. so the tapetum just enhances there vision so what they can see in dark or murky water is probably twice as good as what we can see. In the day colour may be important but at night it will mostly be in black and white. Despite saying all this I personally believe that colour does play a big part. I say this because I troll a lot and thus can eliminate a lot of other variables like retrieve speed, twitching and angler skill, etc, because towing a spread of lures behind a boat means the only variable is the lure at the end of the line. I have lost count of the number of times that a particular colour outfishes all others. It happened on my last 2 trips. Ben and I fished callide and we trolled various lures, the only lure that got bites was a silver mad mullet, we tried gold, green and yellow and a bleeding mullet coloured mad mullet all of the same swimming depth and none of them were bitten. I did the same in awoongs where a silver killalure jewie got half of the bites and the other 3 lures in the spread only got one each and a green and gold jewie also trolled for the same period got no bites. THis has happened to me too often to say that colour is insignificant. Unfortunately this means I will have to carry too many lures rather than just black and white ones. Just some of my observations, scott mcauley.
So Jas,
After everybody's contributio to this thread, (and greatley apprecited it is), when are you taking me fishing .
All of the members that have contributed to this thread have given me food for thought, and even the members that contibuted to the other thread about the correct Reel/Rod combo for Barra fishing, have had a great imput into the Barramundi fishing psychic.
Your knowledge on this subject is invaluabal.
Today I went to Fishing Tackle Aus, Coffs Harbour, and purchased a Shimano Curado 300 DSV Reel and a Shimano 6' Raider Barra Rod.
On Friday I will be at Glen Lyon Dam and practising with this outfit for the time when I do get up North to have a go at your Majestic Barramundi.
And for me when it comes to using a bait caster, boy, do I need the practice.
This is the first baitcaster that I have owned.
Thanks guys
Rob
Scott,
Thanks for your insight on barra's Tapetum lucidem.
I cant comment on the trolling, I have no experience in it. I dont have negative thoughts about it, no doubt its bloody effective at times, its just not my cup of tea.
If you find a colour that works, no doubt run with it. In my time here Ive continually changed (particuarily once Ive got fish) to test the colour issue.
As you know I mostly fish daylight hours now, but early on in the piece I done a lot of night work and it just didnt matter - I use slick rigs 90% of the time as well. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Like I said, go with what works for you, as I do.
I carry a full range of colours in the plastic variety, and they all get a run without favouritism.
Thanks for your insight, after all it gets the thought process going.
Cheers
Jas
I suspect that in most cases, getting our offering, any offering within the strike zone of a fish on the day gets a hookup.
To use flyfishing for trout as an example, there are those who fish red tags exclusively,and do alright.
Me, I like toys. I have heaps and heaps of lures for every imaginable scenario.
If pressed, I could make do with a much smaller range of depths and sizes in hardbodies, and sizes and sinkrates in SP, and get by........ but why would I :-)
Rick K
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