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  1. #1
    Brett_Finger
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    50/50

    Please explain,
    How can it be that 19 stocking assoc. were sent a questionaire regarding the allocation of monnies raised from the SIP. (Stocked Impoundment Permit) and the different % options for it's dispence.
    Out of the 19 stocking assoc sent this, 16 replied.
    9 voted that thay would like things to stay the same as it is/was and 7 voted for change.
    F.F.S.A.Q who is there to represent the various stocking assocations apparently are not, as thay have blatently ingored wishes of these groupes and in there unique style of ditcatorship decided to reccomend the SIP to be change to 50/50.
    50 % surface Area with surface cap at 5000 hectares still in place and 50% angler preferance.
    This reccomendation has been passed onto the SIPcommittee who have decided to also ignore the majority of the groups it represents and pass the 50/50 decision.
    Another interesting fact in all this is, that to my understanding Les Kowitz (president of FFSAQ) is also a member of the SIP committee and the BP Dam Stocking Group who coincidentally stands to benfit greatly from this decesion.
    Another coincidence is that the BP group along with the another group were the only 2 groups to piss and moan about the % prior to this decision.
    I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the up-comming Gladstone Fish Stocking Workshop as i'm sure there will a lot to be said about this Nazi Style dictatorship.
    food for thought.....
    Brett Finger

  2. #2
    Ausfish New Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2002

    Re: 50/50

    Tell the CJC. They would be very interested I think.
    Corruption at its worst. >

  3. #3
    Ausfish Gold Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2001

    Re: 50/50

    Something smells rotten TBF. Hopefully, common sense will prevail.

  4. #4

    Re: 50/50

    Hey SBF....I will be attending the Gladstone workshop late this month and yeah, it will be interesting to see how it all goes.
    I understand that individual stocking committees have thier own impoundments to maximize and generate as many stocking dollars as they can, but the system has to be fair to ALL.
    I personally want to see the SIP left as it was for now to guage a better understanding over a period of time. (Not just half a lousy year) (Oh, and yes, I am a SWFSA member, so we get a good slice of the pie as SIP stands, but there is a lot of water to stock)

    We will keep you informed during the workshop if you like?

    Regards, Randall.

  5. #5
    Ausfish Silver Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2001

    Re: 50/50

    Hi Brett,

    I am in agreeance with all on this one give it at least another 12 months to guage success, and also me thinks something smells with %'s received by certain bodies.

    Regards,


    THE BOMBER

  6. #6

    Re: 50/50

    The SIP has been decided. It was based upon the 50% Angler Preferance & 50% on surface area capped to 5000 hectares.
    See breakdown below.


    SIP Funding Allocation

    Dam Angler Preference Total Allocation
    Burdekin 0.482 $24 878
    Wivenhoe 3.141 $29 917
    Fred Haig 1.762 $27 304
    Peter Faust 2.670 $26 145
    Somerset 6.368 $32 542
    Tinaroo 9.594 $35 502
    Bjelke Peterson 8.401 $27 259
    Boondooma 7.328 $24 184
    Wuruma 0.532 $10 705
    Coolmunda 3.993 $17 088
    Leslie 8.304 $23 132
    Teemburra 2.312 $10 986
    Kinchant 1.545 $8814
    Moogerah 4.272 $13 806
    Eungella 1.597 $8594
    Cania 2.369 $9490
    Borumba 2.856 $9438
    Lenthalls 1.259 $5968
    Lake Clarendon 0.311 $3950
    Maroon 3.492 $9868
    Lake McDonald 0.852 $4576
    Gordonbrook 0.394 $3598
    Lake Gregory 0.584 $3803
    Lake Dyer 0.474 $3151
    Connolly 1.224 $4351

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  7. #7
    Ausfish Bronze Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2001

    Re: 50/50

    Brett,
    I dunno a whole lot about the politics about freshwater fishing / stocking so this comes from an uneducated, unbiased point of view- and really i just want to have the best possible fishing.If what you say is true, then the whole thing smells fishy..

    I paid for my SIP under the impression that the monies raised would go where i nominated. does this still happen?

    Was Les Kowtiz one of the few who stymied Barra in SEQ? Whats going to happen to jacks? tell us more...

  8. #8
    Ausfish Bronze Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2001

    Re: 50/50

    SBF,
    I was under the same impression Voltzy was. I pay for my SIP and the dam I nominate gets the Do Rae Me. It is disappointing to find out this is not the case. Keep us posted.
    J

  9. #9
    Ausfish Gold Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2001

    Re: 50/50

    Here it is on $/ha basis.


    Dam % Angler Preference Total Allocation Size $/ha
    Burdekin………………. 0.482 $24,878 22400 $1.11
    Wivenhoe………………. 3.141 $29,917 10750 $2.78
    Fred Haig……………… 1.762 $27,304 5300 $5.15
    Peter Faust………… 2.67 $26,145 4350 $6.01
    Wuruma……………….. 0.532 $10,705 1780 $6.01
    Somerset………………. 6.368 $32,542 4200 $7.75
    Kinchant………………. 1.545 $8,814 920 $9.58
    Eungella………………. 1.597 $8,594 890 $9.66
    Coolmunda……………… 3.993 $17,088 1740 $9.82
    Teemburra……………… 2.312 $10,986 1040 $10.56
    Tinaroo……………….. 9.594 $35,502 3360 $10.57
    Lake Clarendon… 0.311 $3,950 350 $11.29
    Boondooma……………… 7.328 $24,184 1920 $12.60
    Bjelke Peterson 8.401 $27,259 2150 $12.68
    Cania……………….. 2.369 $9,490 720 $13.18
    Lenthalls……………… 1.259 $5,968 400 $14.92
    Gordonbrook………… 0.394 $3,598 236 $15.25
    Moogerah………………. 4.272 $13,806 880 $15.69
    Lake McDonald…… 0.852 $4,576 260 $17.60
    Leslie……………….. 8.304 $23,132 1250 $18.51
    Borumba……………….. 2.856 $9,438 500 $18.88
    Lake Gregory……… 0.584 $3,803 200 $19.02
    Maroon……………….. 3.492 $9,868 350 $28.19
    Lake Dyer……………… 0.474 $3,151 100 $31.51
    Connolly………………. 1.224 $4,351 70 $62.16


    Burdiken and Wivenhoe get less than $3/ha while Connolly dam gets $62+/ha? Ordinary SIP members aren't even allowed to boat Connolly. Why am I paying for a dam I'm not allowed to boat on when boating on it is reserved for exclusive use of a very small minority.

    $2.78 would buy about 12 bass fingerlings per ha, not enough. While Connolly gets about 310+ yellows per ha which is absurb given that its magnitudes more fish than a dam could ever handle. If they want to keep the current system perhaps a cap of around $10/ha should be brought in.

  10. #10
    The_Walrus
    Guest

    Re: 50/50

    If a dam is not opened to the general public for fishing, it should not be allowed into the SIP system.

    Luc

  11. #11
    The_Walrus
    Guest

    Re: 50/50

    Please explain,
    How can it be that 19 stocking assoc. were sent a questionaire regarding the allocation of monnies raised from the SIP. (Stocked Impoundment Permit) and the different % options for it's dispence.
    Out of the 19 stocking assoc sent this, 16 replied.
    9 voted that thay would like things to stay the same as it is/was and 7 voted for change.
    F.F.S.A.Q who is there to represent the various stocking assocations apparently are not, as thay have blatently ingored wishes of these groupes and in there unique style of ditcatorship decided to reccomend the SIP to be change to 50/50.
    50 % surface Area with surface cap at 5000 hectares still in place and 50% angler preferance.


    Hi Brett,

    The system is called "CON sultation" with emphasis on the first 3 letters.

    Luc

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