the lake awoonga post with the title of 29.9kg and 30.3kg barra has given birth to a very interesting topic. it seems it is an interesting thread, and many people, myself included seem to be very interested in any future developments on that post!
please feel free to read the posts and air your thoughts on the topic.
johnny M
I've always said that you can kill as many fish as your allowed as long you eat them. Looking at some of those photo's the thought of of that many fish ending up as cat food makes me feels sick in the stomach. No wait i just have to burp. But still it seems an awful waste.
Tinaroo Barra Bash pics..again..
Barra Bash pic...
Johnny, this topic or{Argument } will go on for the next 2000 years.
The reason fish are stocked in Impoundments is for put and take. Most anglers like myself do release the fish as do 99% of my clients as a photo is enough for them to take home.
On the other hand I do take a Barra home around every couple of months for a feed and those people who do the same also pay the same fees as we all do to have this privelage, but slaughtering is not productive fishing.
For those who say the Barra are inedible obviously do not know how to prepare Seafood as we have opened a few eyes up with the way I cook mine, rather than sending a fish away to be destroyed then dumped.
C & R Comps are a must and if you don't have a camera on you don't drag the poor bloody fish back home to show the family / mates that you are a legend then dump it at the ramp or in a bin , how much of a legend is that.
On Monduran we are Scoring metre + Barra sleeping alongside 40cm Barra and we see this quite often so as far as destroying the Larger fish goes you had better have a gun at my head.
Any way thats my entitled opinion. And it will never change.
Brett
Smithy the photo's of the Tinaroo comp and the Awoonga comp are very different. The ones from Tinaroo are gilled and gutted so I would assume thay are going in the pot where as the Awoonga ones are whole presumably to give maximum weight.
Is it a rule on the Tinaroo comp that tha barra have to be gilled and gutted and did they come from iceboxes/eskies for the photo's and then go back to be taken home?
I believe that a chat page such as this is a valid means of education, and challenging people's values and ideas. A big barra has had several years invested in it to get to trophy size. To catch such a fish only once seems a waste of the resource. I have no problem with people taking a fish of a lifetime for mounting etc, but I think catch and release should be encouraged as much as possible. Another thing for the deep trollers to consider is, believe it or not, Barotrauma. (not Barratrauma!!) A mate of mine recently caught a big barra which came from deep water and was bloated. They tried to vent the fish the correct way, but even though it was vented, it didn't recover. A fish hooked on the troll in deep water could be dealt with a bit more steadily as they approach the surface to give them a better chance to adjust. Anyone heard of this in impoundments before?
Ray
Are there any people on here who are actually involved in the stocking of these dams?
I may have a simplified view, but as far as I'm concerned, the following points apply
1 - They're artificial waterways
2 - They're stocked by humans (not naturally occurring fish)
3 - The fish can't breed in the dams (we're talking about barra)
4 - The stocking programs continue, and there are no plans to stop them
5 - People pay a fee to fish for them (at Tinaroo anyway - and I'm told this goes to the stocking program)
Bearing those points in mind (my mind anyway) the fish are in basically a free range farming situation.
The problem isn't people taking big fish, it's the clowns who leave them laying around to rot causing discomfort to other fishermen. But then littering is not a new concept.
Also, it would be interesting to know the ratio of fish released to fish being kept. Eg- how many fish have been caught and released for every fish you see hanging up by the gills with a smiling hunter.
Anyway, that's my opinion
cheers,
steve
Sorry, this is slightly off the topic but I would be keen to hear how you cook/prepare impoundment barra for the table still-water/Brett.
Regards
CT
I have not yet been fotunate enough to fish for these awesome fish , but I find it hard to comprehend that such a beautifull fish should only be caught once and then destroyed. Judging by the posts about smaller fish being caught in between the bigger models should mean that they can exist in the same body of water. Personnally I would rather release them if I wasnt going to be taking them home. Hopefully there will be some scientific input as to wether or not the bigger fish are killing all the fish being stocked instead of heresay.
I wouldnt mind travelling to a dam in a few years time to have a shot at a hundred pound barra instead of killing them off before they get there.
Cheers Rod
One thing that can not be forgotten is that every dam is a little different from others. There is a different water chemistry, different cover, different amounts of bait fish and bait fish food.
When we add to this stocking of a fish that would not exist there otherwise it gets even more complicated.
As such things that might be correct in one situation in another place can have a very different effect.
There are dams where taking out the large predatory fish helps the overall fishery and other ones where it does not make any difference.
CTOriginally Posted by 1337
e-mail me an I will send you how we prepare and cook them.
Brett
i dont think they should be wasted just beacuase people have stocked these impoundments,
catch and release would be much better,
Cheers,
Ben
The Tinaroo fish are gutted and gilled as they are given to a local charity organisation for food, a great idea. Let's not forget this an artificial fishery and keeping large Barra should not in any way be a problem. They are also kept during the closed season and a recent video put out by DPI requests/suggests we keep them. It was narrated by Alf Hogan.
Don't you think it is better to keep a big Barra than to have it floating on the dam shocking people? On my last trip to Tinaroo I saw several big Barra rotting at the waters edge, not good for the industry. Just remember, these fish are not natural in these places we speak of and are put there by us. If you want to get all high and mighty about the environment and stuff, have a think about what these fish are doing to a habitat they weren't in in the first place (the dam is not natural either though).
I'm not saying slaughter them all, but the experts on this site have said themselves how hard it is to keep these big fish alive after capture so what's wrong with keeping them, they aren't wild anyway.
Another case of keeping things in perspective guys.......
Cheers, Mark.
I wonder if these fish that have been seen in the water have been released but the trauma of being caught is too much for them and they die soon after they have been released.
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