Straightened Hooks Thats Fishing

[Awoonga]

MMMM...No pm needed...Yes uneducated answer and yes Not Logical...Thats one thing that l ain,t Logical....Your first post was about the sales pitch ...Saying that the salesman was telling you to upgrade your hooks/splitrings.... the guy was trying to help you !!! Next you state that the major lure brands hardware are ok So why do most of us change them ???...Because most of us have lost fish because of the hardware that they come standard with...Why do we tell the guys that ask here on Ausfish what to do what to use ???.We are trying to help the average joe blow that fishers inpoundments....Giving them the best chance possible....As you can see by most of the guys that answered you post they change there hardware... McCod. Set the hook... Witto all good fisherman....So you can keep the standard hardware thats fine...But it will happen..... sure as eggs.....you will lose fish....the odds are in the fishers favour......

[black_sheep]

Horses for courses.

Everyone fishes quite differently and uses different gear. As a lot of fishos said, it all comes from experience and if you getting hooks straightened, change them. If you aren't having that problem - don't change.

When we first started fishing for Barra, we would only have hooks straightened once in a while but that was also using beefed up bass gear (4-5kg rods with calcutta 100/200's (max 3kgs drag) and 20lb braid with 40-60lb leader so gear would usually fail before hooks straightened. Now I use 8-15kg rod with reels capable of 8kgs drag and 78lb braid with 80lb leaders and for me, VMC 6X's are worthless when fishing this heavy and in the timber - trebles are the weak point now. Owners are the only option for us and they do still occassionally get straightened. Hardly upgrade splits as a lot of lures are coming out with the 3 coils.

Here's food for thought - why doesn't a lure manufacturer give us the option of buying lures with all the hardware attached (for those who are happy with the standard) or minus splits and trebles for a couple of bucks cheaper - I know which ones I'd buy. I know, it means less money in the pocket of lure manufactures but surely there's a manufacturer that thinks about the angler Who am I kidding

[wheezer]

thats it fire up trev!! Les nailed it...jaw pressure alone from a barra of a lifetime is enough to destroy just about any treble...for the sake of a few bucks i can't believe anyone wouldn't bother upgrading. did a trip up into the cape earlier this year and even barely legal barra were making mincemeat of 3X VMC's...another big plus of the owners in particular is that they are 'sticky' they seem to find their mark and not let go better than anything else. since switching to all owner trebles in both bass and barra fishing i have barely dropped a fish...and to me that's priceless..JMO

[Thommo73]

I fished Faust a few weeks ago and used soft plastics for about 90% of the time. I did get smashed on a small rapala and it ripped the treble straight out of the split ring. I sat down and replaced the split ring and hook and then kept fishing with the same lure. Then got smashed and the fish ripped the whole wire out of the lure.

Lets face it. Barra don't muck about, especially the big ones.

I barely got by with 80lb leader...they were scoffing the plastics all the way down.

[Tropicaltrout]

Wow thommo73 love faust i will get there again next year, love that place! Black sheep thats a great idea, the next lure builder should take that on board.

Awoonga, well fella I will post it when it happens. I can see how locked drags up in the sticks will do it, and all of these guys as well as you have had it happen maby i have been lucky. well as i said, i carry spares and always got the camera so i will take a photo of the straight one then replace it. I do a trip to faust , awoonga, callide, every year so maby next year.

[nuggstar]

i have had bream bend hooks on me replace trebbles 4 pice of mind

[black_sheep]

Tropical trout - mate, if you happy with the conversion rate using standard hooks, stick with it mate - money in your pocket as far as I'm concerned. As mentioned, I only use Owners now as for me, a big barra lost is a thousand sleepless nights - I am suffering severe insomnia

[McCod]

G'Day Les, Shit thats not a bad idea, Im gunna set up a stall at the dirt Boat ramp at Monduran and sell off all my replaced VMC trebles, could be a littler earner in this, Cheers Whitto PS Hows the MOZZIE going

Gday mate! how's things? Mozzie's going great!! Have ya been tormenting any Barra of late? Catch ya on the water some day!

Cheers Les

[still_water]

TT we all have our days on the water, some good some not so good.
I personally upgrade as even the VMC 6x get done over, I like the owners but they do modify the action on some lures.
At times I do not have to change a hook for days. Then there are those days , where all I seem to be doing is replacing either 1 to 2 trebles on every second lure all day long.
It's a personal thing , but in my game a Fish in the boat is worth 10 lost in the Jungle.
(JMO)

Brett.

[WHITTO]

G'Day Les, Had a ball on Monduran on the 9th of this month just before the Comp, we got 8 nice barra biggest was 98cm and the smallest was 85cm, lost 2 right at the boat, what a day and half, can't wait to get back, will catch up next time,good fishing Les, Cheers Whitto

[ssab1]

missed you, bugger, i ll get you next time, gee i love my fishing might take up catching one day. for now, early releases dont bother me ,aways tomorrow. each to their own i lose enough lures now.cheers alex

[setthehook]

good topic this one. When i moved up here this year i thought hmmmm ill upgrade all my trebles to VMC 6X and ill be laughen!!
pffffffff first trip to awoonga they were destroyed!!!

So ok ill pull all the vmc's of and go with OWNER as they are the best in my opinion.

Much much better!!!

But just to give you an idea on the crunch and munch power from a barra this shot is of destroyed OWNERS!!!!!

And that was at monduran not awoonga! Imagine what it would have done to stock hooks
And for the record i got the fish!!

Go the OWNERS!!!!

[SULLY73]

Maybe if I didn't upgrade to owners I might have got the rest best!

[setthehook]

classic!!!

[scott_b]

2nd ever hook up barra at Prosy , the first was 81cm about 15 min before and I have a piccy.
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