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How do you guys join your braid to the mono leader? I always us a bimini double and was using a braid leader knot but was having troubles so I started using a double uni knot. It's a little more bulky but they hold much better.
I've been using the double uni knot for years with good results.
With mono I take five turns with the tag end & eight turns with gelspun. After tightening up the knot I finish off the gelspun side with a half-hitch. Tidy up by triming the mono right against the knot & leave about 3 or 4mm of gespun.
As a matter of interest, my favoured rig up here in Hinchinbrook is 6kg mono with a 20kg gelspun twist (Aussea King) leader 2 metres long. If I really want to get serious I use 10kg gelspun with a 20kg gelspun leader.
Timber lures - just bung 'em in the water mate & hang on !!!
Had a couple of knot failures last outing ie double uni-knot joining braid to mono. Retied leaders and have super-glued same.
The thought occurs, why don't I just tie the braid directly to a swivel via a uni-knot and then just attach a trace to the swivel of equal or slightly lesser breaking strain. By doing so I eliminate the need for the knot to join the braid to a leader - one less knot to fail. If I get snagged the line should break at the swivel or along the trace.
Argo that is how i fish deep sea...use 2 droppers on the main line and then attach a swivel with a smaller 3kilo trace to the snapper lead...this way if the sinker gets caught on the bottom structure the trace line breaks at the swivel(99% of the time) and you still have the fish!!
Cheers Brent
Ok understand if the sinker gets snagged, but what happens if you are snagged up via one of the droppers ie where does the line break.
This is my heavy outfit shark (?) fishing at Wello and using a conventional rig with sinker and swivel above the hook. Just trying to avoid the situation where break-off occurs somewhere along the main (braid) line.
I am kinda hoping that they are not sharks but I am yet to get close enough to one to see colour......so I am not sure what keeps smashing me up.
I have just been using the references to getting snagged to make a point. What I am trying to workout is....can I fish with braid tied directly to the swivel and eliminate the need for a join to a leader. If so, I could adopt the same rig on my lighter gear. One less knot in whatever rig can't be bad.
I fish braid pretty much exclusively now. When bottom bashing I tie braid to a swivel. Hard to explain the knott but here goes. Double the braid and poke loop through swivel eye. 4 or 5 wraps back around main line. Pass the tag (loop end) through the hole created and pass the swivel through. Pull down gently and evenly and you're in business. Never let me down. I'm trying my hand at drawing it for you - post it tomorrow.
Argo, if your losing the big ones something is going wrong ??? Braid isn't very abrasion resistent, and long leaders make it easier to control big fish at the boat, Ill be fishing for sharks after the tide change tomorrow, this is the proven rig. 24kg braid, bimini twist-albright to 4m of 45kilo trace-1m of 150lb 49strand cable, Im using 10/0 hooks.
They don't get away due to tackle failure very often, since we fish different areas, you may well do things different, to date what part of your setup has failed the most?
Argo Phill..to answer the first question i have never had the droper snag up always the sinker.
Mate my outfit for sharks etc at Wello is 30 lb braid....balloon...strong swivel....2 metres of 17lb vanish...pea sinker..3 number 4 hooks ganged together.
The reason im using a thin trace is because if by chance a mac comes along...the have good eyesight!!!!
Sharks don't seem to mind a heavy trace or even fine wire.
Like you im also hoping by having the line in mid water anything might take a fancy to the bait(I Q F/ W A Pilchard)
Tie the balloon to your line not the line to the balloon...Mate last year in March we had a ball with the whalers...3 weekends in a row....great when they leap out of the water....and the odd small ones don't taste too bad at all
Make sure you gut and rip there heads off asap...fillet and skin before cooking.
Cheers Brent
Ps..Gee Rob with that rig are you getting set up to catch JAWS!!
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