Qld Rec fisher changes in the air

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Originally Posted by Lovey80

never been over a bag ever when counting. Always happens when number start to rise and some forgets what their number is. The whole boat shares the fillets equally and if the government is willing to set boat limits on fish, I’m happy to multiply the individual bag by the number of people on board to get to a boat limit.

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Ditto here. I and a few mates have made laminated charts with fish limits etc we use a marker pen everytime a fish goes into the esky, this is easy to control as the fish first are bled and then counted when several are put on ice. Marks easily removed for next trip with some metho. Generally on my boat fish have to be several cm over that set by qld fisheries, this stems from a fishing club I was on in not so long ago. At that club you could weigh in as meny species as you liked but only 1 fish per species and the minimum accepted size was 2cm over the minimum size limit. Got rid of that catch as many as you can mentality.
Our size and boat limits in particular are at times restrictive and we have rarely reached them with the exception of snapper, pearl perch or duskies, even then on my boat we were particular about we kept, some species like king fish- not at all as in the warmer waters their flesh is soft.

Sometimes I can't understand the difference in size limits between States eg pearlperch in qld is 38 m wheras in NSW it was from memory 30 cm, that is a ridiculously small fish to take imho. Maybe we should get more consensus between states on sizes but once again may never happen as I recall a scientific paper on what age duskies mature, from memory again it was at a smaller size limit the further south you went. Or maybe the figures were skewed to meet a particular agenda.

What's the answer, I don't know, certainly having volunteers at the ramps here in qld asking some very general questions is not going to give any sort of reasonable results.

I wouldnt worry too much about keeping catch records. Soon enough, with a digital currency and social credit score, fishing will be a privilege 'earned' through social, environmental behaviour, based on purchase records your online behaviour and political opinions, and social credit score level.
Fishing probably wont be worth what the social credit points will cost you to actually go fishing. And if you do, you may not have a vehicle to get there from your 15 minute city. Thats the future. Probably a big event coming to be able to bring this in.

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Originally Posted by mudrunner

I wouldnt worry too much about keeping catch records. Soon enough, with a digital currency and social credit score, fishing will be a privilege 'earned' through social, environmental behaviour, based on purchase records your online behaviour and political opinions, and social credit score level.
Fishing probably wont be worth what the social credit points will cost you to actually go fishing. And if you do, you may not have a vehicle to get there from your 15 minute city. Thats the future. Probably a big event coming to be able to bring this in.

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that might be a bit over the top, but, change is coming, and without our help, then it will hurt…….no need to tinfoil hats.

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Originally Posted by Noelm

that might be a bit over the top, but, change is coming, and without our help, then it will hurt…….no need to tinfoil hats.

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I wish it was over the top. It's started in other countries, especially china. And governments want the "china model ".
Some of us can see the bigger picture.

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But anyway live life.
We are fortunate in Australia for now at least.
Do they still have that live cam underwater on the reef?

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NSW changed the rules for Duskies last year to minimum of 36cm and max of 70cm. Limit of 5 per person. Since that change came in the number of big fish being caught and released shows they are in a much better state after less than a year of the rule change. I believe rule change bought us into line with QLD.

I release most of what i catch so I am all for any rule changes that allow me to fish more, catch more and release more big healthy fish.

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Originally Posted by steve099

NSW changed the rules for Duskies last year to minimum of 36cm and max of 70cm. Limit of 5 per person. Since that change came in the number of big fish being caught and released shows they are in a much better state after less than a year of the rule change. I believe rule change bought us into line with QLD.

I release most of what i catch so I am all for any rule changes that allow me to fish more, catch more and release more big healthy fish.

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The slot limit definitely had a massive impact on Duskies in QLD. The best fisheries measure of all time. I have a personal limit of 50cm. Partly because now days you can easily catch 3-5fish in that range if you’re targeting them. And the fillets from 50+ fish make filleting worth while. I’m lazy and it seems a waste filleting a sub 50cm fish when there is so many around. Back when I was a teenager in the 90’s, decent duskies would be a rare catch unless you were doing a lot of drifting and covering a lot of ground. Now days, you sometimes can’t get past the duskies to get to the Jacks when at anchor.

I remember when NSW made the rule change, most carried on about it, saying it was not worth going fishing, and how it was taking away rights and all sorts of crap, now it’s just a rule, and Flathead fishing has improved considerably.

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Originally Posted by Volvo

Also how much of a difference would it make if we were to stop feeding the rest of the World with our stocks??.

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I kinda agree with you on this.
Ive selected a live Coral Trout, caught in Queensland, that I watched come off a truck and put into a tank at a Restaurant in Hong Kong. We had a 3 course meal for 2 including the whole trout for $35 Australian dollars. The same fish would cost me about $75 here from the fish monger> How can this be?

Fish caught in Australian waters should be reserved for Australia. More availability will reduce the cost to the local consumer and more people will buy it but overall fewer fish will be caught.

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Originally Posted by Brettoh

I kinda agree with you on this.
Ive selected a live Coral Trout, caught in Queensland, that I watched come off a truck and put into a tank at a Restaurant in Hong Kong. We had a 3 course meal for 2 including the whole trout for $35 Australian dollars. The same fish would cost me about $75 here from the fish monger> How can this be?

Fish caught in Australian waters should be reserved for Australia. More availability will reduce the cost to the local consumer and more people will buy it but overall fewer fish will be caught.

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While that may be true, the person catching that fish will get paid less, until it becomes financially negative, then another Australian is out of work.

Coral trout have a pretty healthy size and bag limit @38cm and a bag of 10. 20 CRFF in total. I have zero qualms about an export market for our fish. Where I think the line needs to be drawn is when fisheries declare that a species requires more restrictions and Australians have to suffer. If a species requires further restrictions and it’s a species that gets exported, then the exports should be the first thing that is cut. That goes for all species.

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Originally Posted by Brettoh

I kinda agree with you on this.
Ive selected a live Coral Trout, caught in Queensland, that I watched come off a truck and put into a tank at a Restaurant in Hong Kong. We had a 3 course meal for 2 including the whole trout for $35 Australian dollars. The same fish would cost me about $75 here from the fish monger> How can this be?

Fish caught in Australian waters should be reserved for Australia. More availability will reduce the cost to the local consumer and more people will buy it but overall fewer fish will be caught.

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Your local fish monger a is ripping you off .

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Originally Posted by Lovey80

Coral trout have a pretty healthy size and bag limit @38cm and a bag of 10.

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I never take more then 7 per person...but then again I play by the rules..;D

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Originally Posted by disorderly

I never take more then 7 per person...but then again I play by the rules..;D

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Now I thought the limit was 7 and just checking it seems to be so, at least in qld.

https://www.qld.gov.au/recreation/ac...al#coral-trout

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Originally Posted by disorderly

I never take more then 7 per person...but then again I play by the rules..;D

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don’t think I’ve ever had more than 2 on board my boat my entire life. Had to google the bag before posting the above. I rarely fish coral reef.