Tyrnos Vs TLD

[2iar]

Hi All,

Just after a bit of advice on what the difference is between these Shimano models? Does the Tyrnos perform noticeably better, justifying the cost? Are there advantages (other than being lighter) that the TLD has? Or Tyrnos all the way?

Thanks,
Mike

[T-roy]

Hey mate
I think the Tyrnos has twice the drag as the TLD

T-roy

[Rod_Bender]

More drag, better gear ratio, overall worth every $$$. Just shop around cause they should be around $270 these days. I've seen them as low as $200 at the fishing shows....

[Seahorse]

i got pric $270 today for the trynos 30. think i will go with that. prob put it on a fibre rod? 50lb braid? does all that sound ok.

cheers

[scuttlebutt]

Spot on, but if you're using braid, consider the 20. Same drag and spool diameter as the 30 (and still hold heaps of 50lb) but narrower and lighter.

cheers,

steve

[2iar]

i got pric $270 today for the trynos 30. think i will go with that. prob put it on a fibre rod? 50lb braid? does all that sound ok.

cheers


Where from mate?

[2iar]

Spot on, but if you're using braid, consider the 20. Same drag and spool diameter as the 30 (and still hold heaps of 50lb) but narrower and lighter.

cheers,

steve


Thanks Steve,

So what's the advantage of 20 Vs 30?

Good luck,
Mike

[charleville]

There is also a thread somewhere here that talks about the benefits of putting a Tyrnos handle on a TLD. From memory, Sundown Marine weighed into that discussion saying a lot of people seek to do that and that they charge something like $80 (I think) to do that but their recommendation was really for people to buy a Tyrnos in the first place.

[Blackened]

G'day
I'm going a tyrnos 20 for my new bottom bashing outfit. It will be spooled with 50lb live fibre tx braid, and backed with 50lb platypus platinum mono. Why have I gone a 20 instead of 30?? smaller, ample line capacity for intended purpose, lighter, same drag pressures and same price anyway.

The sports store that cannot be named has them for normal pricing of $269. They come onto play at $235 on special.

The tyrnos are much much more refined than the TLD. Not taking anything away from them, but the tyrnos are in a totally different class.

The reason for changing to a tyrnos handle on a TLD was the advantages of leverage to the gear ratios to make it a nicer reel to use.

Dave

[scuttlebutt]

So what's the advantage of 20 Vs 30?


The 30 is just wider so holds more line, but slightly heavier and more cumbersome. Everything else is the same as the 20. Might be relevant if you're filling it with Mono, but with braid the 20 should hold at least 700m of 50 braid. I just use a 20 with mono backing then 300m of 50 braid on top.

cheers,

steve

[T-roy]

Hey mate
My mate said he got one for $170 at one of the amart ######### carpark sales

T-roy

[dfox]

The tyrnos is a good reel, but it does have floors as a bottom basher.
The gear ratio is not great for bottom bashing, at 5.1 its deffently not ideal. The two speed version with 5.1 and 2.1 is a better proposition and although more expensive isnt that much heavier (more so in the 30).
Most fisherman will no doubt enjoy using the single speed 20 or 30's as there much smoother and the drag is better then the tld and the longer handle makes for more leverage.
These tyrnos reels were never designed for catching snapper in 80 meters,the australian market isnt big enough to warrant a purpose built reel, there a light game trolling reel and we use them for bottom bashing.
The ideal bottom bashing gear ratio was established years ago with the penn senators and diawa sealines with ratio's from 2.8 to 3.25. The tld 20 & 25 have always been a bit high at 3.6 and by adding a longer handle this vastly improves them.
Some of you maybe now thinking that foxy's full of it, but when your fishing deep water and pulling alot of big fish you soon learn and establish what works best. On our resent trip to fraser we fished deep water one day and greg(reefmaster)'s dad had to change back to his old senator as his tyrnos 30 was wearing him out.
Summing up, value for money the tyrno's is great and will do the job, but it could be improved. If you can afford the two speed version the 2.1 gear will deffently help, if your on a tight budget get a tld.
There all good reels and theres not much out there better...foxy

[Seahorse]

thanks foxy, so are u suggesting to buy penn senators or diawa sealines?

greg

[dfox]

No mate, there old school gear now, but they did get there gearing right and there handle lengths .Its hard to compare one of those dinosaurs to the modern technoligy of a good light lever drag with arb bearings, smooth drag etc. i just wish they'd use what was learnt back then and apply it to the latest reels ...foxy

[Tony_N]

That's very interesting reading foxy. I've been looking for something lightweight with a faster retrieve than my little Charter Special (4.2:1 and 485 grams). I love the reel, but it is so slow to retrieve from 30 or 40 fathoms. I thought I was getting tired from all the winding. I find the TLD too cumbersome and heavy and the Tyrnos at over a kilo would make me want to come home after and hour.

I was looking at raiding the piggy bank for an overhead Saltiga 30 (5.4:1 and 475 grams)

I know that with a big fish this is going to take some winding in - but I figured that using lift and wind there wouldn't be a problem. Sounds like I better have a little rethink. I sure as hell don't want to spend that sort of money to find that it is unuseable for bottom bashing.

Do you find lift and wind allows you to cope better with a higher ratio return?

Tony

[2iar]

Thanks for all the input guys - the response is exactly what I hoped for. There are a few things to consider here, so I won't rush in just yet...

Thanks again.

Good luck,
Mike

[craftycarp]

i go the higher ratios these days. Yeah the lower ratios are good for winching fish up but with my gimble and saltist 40H and pump and winding I find I get them up quicker but yes it is a little more tiring. I set myself up as if I am going jigging. Gimble down low long but section on my rod so the reel is nearly at chest level. I know this sounds strange but my experience while jigging has showed me how comfortable this setup is to use. Most old schoolers look side ways at me but thats ok do what works best for you I say. The added advantage is that when your baits are getting picked to death in 80-100 mtrs of water the fast ratio gets the empty hook up quickly and easily.

[grich]

Just got a tyrnos 30 for $269. Am new to this site and don't want to look like i am advertising. I live in Brisbane so I think that it is safe to say that I have no vested interest in a company in WA. Any way try Campbells pro tackle WA. The sale ends at the end of september I think.
Any way I will let you know how the reel handles.

[grich]

What would you guys recomend to pair up with a tyrnos 30 for trolling out the back of a kayak and bottom bashing?

[Seahorse]

i got a tyrnos 30 put away. prob pick up 2morrow or sat. cost is $270 from that sports store that sounds like a tart.
just deciding what line. prob go 50kg braid.

cheers
greg

[Seahorse]

i got a penn power stick 320 gti. will this be ok to fit the tyrnos 30 too. dont know the rating. maybe someone can help me

[Black_Rat]

I've fished with both the TLD25 and the Trynos30 and the Trynos30 is a far better reel for the few extra $$$ you pay for them and well worth it.
The larger handle and higher retreive rate makes it a whole lot easier when fishing the depths.
Was impressed from the first time I used it ;)

[spinner]

I agree with TonyN. Using the LIFT and WIND method, it doesn`t matter what the gear ratio is. It`s not only kinder to your reel than using it as a winch, but is also a lot less tiring.
I use a Torium 20 for bottom fishing (6:1 ratio) and it is very usefull for getting baits or jigs back fast for changing.
Cheers
Reggy