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snappa
02-08-2006, 08:40 PM
....TOYOTA or NISSAN....


dual cab 4x4 .......


and why .....


required for towing.... Caravan ...Haines on FRASER..

COMmENTS on motor ... looking at a diesel...maybe

mowerman
02-08-2006, 09:11 PM
NONE OF THE ABOVE.

I have a 2000 Triton Dual Cab,GLX, 3 litre V6 petrol.
Have towed my mates 15foot Haines to TinCan a few times and to Baffle Creek.Have yet to tow anything on sand with it. Except for the odd Rav 4, 2 hiluxs and a brand new Prado on Flinders. The bloke was still reading the manual. ;D
A bit thirsty when you give it foot full, and turns like a council bus,

BUT

I used to have a 1976 HJ45 Cruiser ute. You know the ones. Bought it in 1983. In the next 12 years that ute did all the beaches and islands from Red Rock to 1770. To the Cape once and Normanton. Pig shooting as far away as Blackall. And it went everywhere. It finally fell apart.

The Triton has done all of those except the Cape and Normanton.
And with the same ease as the Cruiser. And a lot more comfortably(says the missus). The low range is superb. Rous battery track first go, while the turbo Patrol behind me had 4 goes and then rolled a tyre off the rim. Those bloody things cant climb at all.

And one last thing,

They cost less than one of those primadonnas you mentioned.

Anyway, try one out.

OISTA
02-08-2006, 10:12 PM
100series Cruiser turbo diesel cut down to dual cab ute 8-)

Az
03-08-2006, 09:30 AM
funny how no1 can actually answer the question asked ;D

which model/year toyota and nissan, whats your max towing weight?

Chimo
03-08-2006, 10:53 AM
Az

As part of your deliberations who do you have lined up to service and repair what ever you choose. What is their opinion. That would be my starting point.

At the the end of the day why not just do a matrix and score it?

Vehicle brand Toyota Nissan
Price
towing ability
comfort
fuel eco
service cost
weaknesses
parts costs
resale
etc


Put some score on the board (out ot 5 or 10 ) add and then justify your choice to the minister of finance, usually works for me (with mine)

Good luck will await your decision with interest.

Cheers
Chimo

GOM

Argle
03-08-2006, 01:24 PM
Check out the new Triton Dual Cab 3.2l common rail diesel. Pull van or boat no trouble. Brilliant on fuel biggest cab in all the current dual cabs, plus a 10 year warranty. Drives like a car too, dont believe me? Go and drive one you might be surprised - i was. :o But I wont be swapping my Turbo diesel Pajero for one.


Cheers and Beers
Scott

snappa
03-08-2006, 02:48 PM
new Triton Dual Cab 3.2l common rail diesel. yes i see one on tv the same nite i put up post ..
will investigate also..


i'm only interested in the last [new] models of both now three.. :P


why have nissan gone back to a 2.5 lt motor giving away the 3 lt..????


100series Cruiser turbo diesel cut down to dual cab ute ...yes i work with a guy that has one... great package and looks awsome... too old to f**8 around with cars now ....and i couldnt bring myself to do it to a new one ... :(

mainly want to carry a deepfrezer and generator in back with some camping gear .....

DALEPRICE
03-08-2006, 05:35 PM
by one of those f trucks pete :P

then you can pull the van and the boat at the same time ;D
have a good trip next week you lucky bugga.
cheers dale

Streetkid
03-08-2006, 11:18 PM
The new mazda diesel is pretty impressive on paper, supposed to be capable of 400+ nm with a bit of a tweak.

-spiro-
04-08-2006, 08:53 AM
Pete have you thought about a combie van. Good on fuel, tow your boat, they got a bed in them already and they go on the beach. What more do you want??????
And if you are smart you will paint a big dope leaf on the side and pick up chicks and get free wacky weed.......


what it would be like to be 18 again ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

OISTA
04-08-2006, 10:41 AM
100series Cruiser turbo diesel cut down to dual cab ute 8-)


Better fuel economy than a Nissan.
Comfort of a hunjy with the versatility of a ute.
Toyota =Tough
They to boats and do beach launches all the time( personally I'd never dunk a new car in salt water but each to their own.)
Can pick them up for a good price second hand.

MY-TopEnder
05-08-2006, 10:14 AM
Nissan in an ST-R Navara.... don't touch the new D40 in a diesel... they need another A pillar just for all the bloody recall stickers.

The new Hilux is pretty low out of the factory, but their diesels are bloody good little units.

TheDeepSix
06-08-2006, 12:33 PM
Snappa

Check out this rig for sale on Ebay, its a country vehicle & shouldn't have any rust. I have one and it tows my Kevlacat well.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/UTE-NISSAN-NAVARA-DX-DUAL-CAB-4X4-UTILITY-2004_W0QQitemZ190015329546QQihZ009QQcategoryZ10230 1QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Cheers, Chris

ar-we-ther-yet
06-08-2006, 07:19 PM
Hi snappa
I bought the Navara D40 in febuary, there have been 2 recalls ( minor stuff nothing too unusual for a new model )
I got the v6 petrol 197 kw (260 hp) 3 ton towing capacity
August "Overland "mag gave it a good report for towing (also compares the hilux and rodeo )
The v6 only drawback is its poor fuel economy around 15lts/100 kms
The diesel 2.5 ltr 128 kw and 403 nm still has 3 ton towing and gets around 9 ltrs / 100 kms. A mate of mine said he was using around 12.5 ltrs / 100 towing a car trailor.
The Navara was 10% cheaper than the hilux to.

oongi
06-08-2006, 10:13 PM
Snapper
I also have bought the D40 but in December and had the 2 recalls like arwetheryet, not that they were an issue, I have the 2.5, the reason for the different motors between the ST-X and the ST-R is that the X this built in Spain and the R is built in Japan, Spains had this engine for 2 years. I tow a 6m whittley and it does it with ease, not towing I get between 9.5 10lt, with the boat it runs at 17-19lt, Drove the hilux and for the extra $$$ its not worth it, the 6 speed manual is also handy when towing, the 60/40 back seat is very handy when camping and fishing for safe storage of equipment. Very happy do recommend.

OONGI

ar-we-ther-yet
06-08-2006, 10:25 PM
Snapper
I also have bought the D40 but in December and had the 2 recalls like arwetheryet, not that they were an issue, I have the 2.5, the reason for the different motors between the ST-X and the ST-R is that the X this built in Spain and the R is built in Japan, Spains had this engine for 2 years. I tow a 6m whittley and it does it with ease, not towing I get between 9.5 10lt, with the boat it runs at 17-19lt, Drove the hilux and for the extra $$$ its not worth it, the 6 speed manual is also handy when towing, the 60/40 back seat is very handy when camping and fishing for safe storage of equipment. Very happy do recommend.

OONGI

Hi oongi
Check out a U.S.A. Forum
http://www.clubfrontier.org/index.php
Frontiers the U.S.A. version of the Navara

oongi
06-08-2006, 11:08 PM
arwetheryet
The nissan dealer told me about the frontiers mid last year, as the norm we have to wait 12month before we get them.

The_Guru
07-08-2006, 08:32 AM
We have the 2.5td D40 at work at it goes like a rocket, revs like a petrol but with good torque across the whole rev range. My current work vehicle a Rodeo 3LTD is being replaced by a D40, can wait. The comfort levels are high also and the sound levels are much lower than the rodeo. I would have concerns over the new D4D hilux engine heard of a few blowing up with low k's. My sisters bf just got his back after 3-4 months getting engine fixed by toyota.

I think both engines are by far and away better than previous models, so power wise you should be happy with both.

Just my Thoughts

mowerman
07-08-2006, 08:40 PM
One of the motor mags described the new hilux as a lux.
Nothing high about it.
Kept bottoming out in comparison to the new rodeo and triton.

seafarer3
08-08-2006, 12:11 PM
Hey Snappa,

I have a 2003 nm Pajero...proven itself 3 times Fraiser 2 x inskip..Double Is point....Bloody f antastic..Now it pulls the 1800KG Seafarer no probs at all.
3.5 lt v6 semi auto. Wouldn't own anything else...great on fuel to..will buy another one after this one.
Have had hj 62 series factory turbo diesel wagon great truck no comfort.
Also gq Patrol nat / asperated no gut's "good truck" though.
and a Navara ( 720 ) good ute in it's time..

Chima ....Is that a Victory in your garage ?

Cheers
Scott

skeet182
08-08-2006, 08:55 PM
picked up my new rig yesterday.
Navara d40 turbo diesel 4wd :D

Great unit, check out http://www.damoandkat.com/ for pics.
Have to get a few more k's on her before i can tow the boat, go off road etc.

Bought it for 4wd weekend trips and towing the boat. Also allows me to get rid of the trailer and use the tray etc.

ar-we-ther-yet
08-08-2006, 09:09 PM
picked up my new rig yesterday.
Navara d20 turbo diesel 4wd :D

Great unit, check out http://www.damoandkat.com/ for pics.
Have to get a few more k's on her before i can tow the boat, go off road etc.

Bought it for 4wd weekend trips and towing the boat. Also allows me to get rid of the trailer and use the tray etc.


Nice truck
where did you get the bull bar from ?
By the way its a D40 not D20

skeet182
08-08-2006, 09:22 PM
yeh damn typo's, corrected to say d40.

Interesting story, we were looking for one and apparently there is quite a wait on them
We went into nissan and this one was there already kitted out, someone had ordered it and waited for it and then lost his job.

So we took it then and there. I asked about the bullbar but the salesman didnt know, it says nissan on it. He said he didnt think it was a nissan item, but i think it is.
Looked for it on the website but cannot seem to find it on there.

Wish i could help some more!

EDIT: it actually sits over the existing bumper and does not replace it. To fit it you have to drill holes in the bumper.

oongi
09-08-2006, 09:40 AM
Arwetheryet

Is a nissan bbar, a mate of mine ordered one for his and when it had been fitted had got it removed because it was so light and flimcy, leant on it and it flexed a good 30mm, he replaced it with an ARB the same as mine

OONGI

ar-we-ther-yet
09-08-2006, 06:15 PM
Arwetheryet

Is a nissan bbar, a mate of mine ordered one for his and when it had been fitted had got it removed because it was so light and flimcy, leant on it and it flexed a good 30mm, he replaced it with an ARB the same as mine

OONGI

Hey oongi
The ARB B/Bar is a quality product ,but since i'm saving for new suspension (ARB will have something next month and Tough Dog will have there's at the end of the year) too many toys and not enough cash ;) (2x boats ,caravan and a new truck you now how it is )
Hey Sheet182
Im not sure if i like yours it looks too big and bulky, but i guess if it does the job.