NEW TO FLY FISHING WHAT DO I NEED

[youngfisho]

am heading over to the uk next year and have decided to get a fly rod to try out some of the fishing spots over there. Scotland and english country side. What fly rod would you guys suggest I purchase for say trout and salmon fishing. And what do I need to tie flys.


andrew

[barkerboi89]

am heading over to the uk next year and have decided to get a fly rod to try out some of the fishing spots over there. Scotland and english country side. What fly rod would you guys suggest I purchase for say trout and salmon fishing. And what do I need to tie flys.


andrew
well... i think its a little hard to do trout and salmon with 1 rod. ssalmon are a whole lot stronger and bigger. so say a 9wt for salmon and a 5wt for trout.. it really depends where you are fishing as shorter rods would be for small streams and longer rods for bigger streams...
u also need to cast pretty well so the fish don't spook and know how to mend the line in running water if u fish in rivers...

just buy the flies... i find dries too much trouble to tie and so i just buy them... Leaders... just a tapered leader will do... tippet should be say 3lbs to 8lbs... for salmon, go with just a single piece 20lbs flurocarbon or mono...

hope this all helps... do a little more reading up on where u'll be fishing... so that you know what to expect... trout can be super spooky on some days and almost impossible to spook on others..

[youngfisho]

thanks,

will take that into consideration. i think trout will be my target species. so maybe the 5wt fly rod. What fly reel should I buy - within reason, (nothing too expensive)

[barkerboi89]

well... salmon fishing is a world apart from trout fishing... salmon always run you into the backing no matter what the weight.. be it an 8wt or a 6wt... the only similarity is that u gotta do drifts... thats the only one i can think of.

if u like screaming reels, go with the salmon... if you are small sized (like me) go with a lighter rod for salmon.. i personally think they are easier to handle... here is the catch.. lighter rods take longer to tire the fish and give it more chance to escape... salmon can be landed on a 6 or 7wt rod.. it'll just take much longer... my friend did it with his 6wt XTR... but had more bust offs than his wife who was using a 8wt sage.

if u like seeing the perfect drift and see your dry fly disappear in the white of the mouth of a trout, trout fishing is your game... trout dun fight that much... or thats what i think.. but as my buddy said, a fish on fly is better than 1000 swimming around you... anw... a trout reel is more like a line holder... but set the drag just incase a trophy fish decides to head for the amazon and strip your reel or something... its happened to me when i was fishing in the reservoir and hooked a Pacu that decided to have some fun and head for the amazon at the speed of light.. all i could do was hang on..

something on budget thats hard to beat would be the redington rods and the albright rods.. i have tried the sage launch 5wt. its heavy...

i have had a look at the Loop rods and reels.. the grey line salt is slower than the blue line salt. the blue line is much stiffer too.. so if ur a fast rods person, get the blue line..

i personally have an
albright a-5 7wt. its a nice rod but a little soft but really packable.. quite soft medium- fast action.. underline it if u like faster rods.
Orvis superfine 4wt 7' the one ounce, beautiful rod that puts dry flies down with a pillow soft landing not that packable but its super smooth.. PS its 2 pc.. slow rod.. but not as slow as the japanese ones.
Scott STS 6wt. nice rod. bouncy feeling unique to these rods.. the s3s i hear does not have this feeling. its fairly packable and a pretty smooth caster 3pcs... action is not very fast.
G.Loomis GL4 FR1086, 6wt 9'.. nice rod, fast recovery, loads up close and can still finish the fly line. its very smooth casting too.. but not very packable... 2pc... pretty fast rod too...
Orvis TLS 909-4 Tip Flex.. damn stiff rod but very nice to cast.. can do casts up close and yet send a heavily weighted clouser a pretty long long way...

if ur looking for something cheap, try TFO, some people swear by them...
i like albrights but i fear it has not enough backbone to turn a salmon.
Loop rods should do fine for both salmon and trout... if u need versitility, i guess you could get a saltwater rod that light so u got enough reserve power to punch flies out. also think what will you do with the rod when you get back to australia. i am sure you will wanna have some fun with the queenies, milkies and herrings on a 5wt or 6wt.
heard some good stuff about Rajeff Sports echo...

Reels
i like the ross reels...
Evolution series ROCKS!! i have 2 evos.. they work well.. really well..
Canyon BG4 also is fantastic.. the drag is freaky though..
these above 2 reels are silky smooth even though they have no bearings in the spool.

my buddy has a nautilus FW for is boron 2x 6wt.. he says its a fantastic reel.

If ur on a budget, i guess you could get a lamson or an orvis mach or battenkill.. i have heard some good stuff about the echo reels too.. but look up and get some research before you part with money.. ask around the guys here.. i am sure some of u guys use ross and like me, think they are fantastic :P


whatever it is, u gotta know how to cast if you wanna catch any fish.. thats the most important... if ur doing river fishing on small streams, forget about double hauls.. you wont really need it.. cast the rod you wanna get if possible.. u cant test a rod by waggling it in the shop..

if you need somemore help, u can ask in a few other forums such as fishingkaki, www.fishingkaki.com and fly fishing singapore, http://flyfishingsg.#########38.com/

Good Luck... just ask if u got more to ask..

[youngfisho]

wow,

thanks for all that info, will keep that in mind. sure is a different ball game to regular line fishing. All those brands aside from gloomis i had never heard of.



andrew

[barkerboi89]

G.Loomis also makes some fantastic fly rods!! haha... if you need anything, get it in Singapore, its cheaper... if possible la...

[billybob3]

Young Fisho

Spent some time in the UK myself never got to fish bonnie Scotland.

But one thing os for sure, forget about anything other than a 6-7 wt, and I would lean towards the 7. It gets pretty windy over there ,most of the time and you will find yourself struggling , if you try casting anything less into the wind.

When you get to the UK ,Glasgow has possibly the best Fly shop in the UK, one name to look at is VISION. there gear is good quality and very reasonaly priced.
Glasgow Angling Centre.
As you will find oiut , if you are just starting there are so many opinions about which rods, reels lines etc.

You should look to buy teh best that YOUR budget will allow.
I would recommend getting a 4 pce rod as it allows for travelling.

MOST fly fishers in teh UK stores will give you the good oil.

FLY FISHING DOESNT have to be an expensive excercise, buy gear that suits your budget and enjoy it as a sport .

Hope this helps.

[barkerboi89]

if its windy, go for a slightly stiffer rod as it will be easier to punch the flies into the wind... thats what i find... if ur in the UK, do pay orvis a visit... they have a few company stores over there. addresses can be found on www.orvis.com

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