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Heath
11-06-2005, 03:32 PM
Since the cold weather is upon us, I've been thinking about the ol' Paternoster rig.

I've seen it tied 3 different ways & am wondering how others tie their Paternosters ???

mackmauler
11-06-2005, 04:09 PM
You first ;D

sinker on the bottom and hooks above that ???

gunna
11-06-2005, 04:56 PM
Twisted dropper loops.

Cheech
11-06-2005, 05:47 PM
Heath,

What part do you mean? What loop do you use, what distance between hooks, what distance from the bottom hook to the sinker? Or are you after all of the above? Were hooks part of the question?

Burley_Boy
11-06-2005, 06:20 PM
I'll keep an eye on this one.
I've had dramas with bait twisting etc so decided to try doing 2x dropper loops but using the version where the droppers are twisted so they stand out better from the main line. Using 40lb leader but not sure if the extra thicknessn when twisting will affect the hit rates.
I also decided to start using a swivel a between mainline and leader.
I've been attaching the sinker with lighter line so I can pull the rig free if I snag.

Fishinmishin
11-06-2005, 06:22 PM
Dropper loops (twisted if lighter lines) and I use Blood bight knots to hooks if suffering biteoffs or don't want a double up to the hook if the fish are timid. Ive heard that a soft plastic (with lightest possible jig head) on the bottom dropper and bait on top dropper has been accounting for some good catches. I usually fish a very solid sinker as helps set the hook in deeper waters unless using braids.
Cheers, Jay

matthill80
12-06-2005, 05:07 PM
running a swivel on you leading hook always stops line twist for me. thats if you are not using chemo's they sometimes dont like having their eyes opened

Billo
13-06-2005, 06:11 AM
twisted dropper knotts for sure .
Only way i ever do it .

luggo
15-06-2005, 12:55 PM
Heath
My patt sounds a bit fancy but once set up i find its easy and works well, I always had trouble with the normal type dropper loops breaking at the knot ,slipping or twisting. Ok ,3 components.
1.....800mm x 80lb mono.. swivel one end, snap swivel other end.

2.....The dropper. 60lb mono..swivel one end hook other end.

3....1 metre 40lb mono ..swivel one end,loop for sinker other end.

I keep these items in three small plastic tubs with the same ones in each tub.

OK..NOW..I fish with 60lb braid with a snap swivel on the end.
...Clip on 1&2 to the main line then clip on 2&3 to item 1 & connect a sinker, the pain is over.
The advantages I find are that after each outing I unclip the droppers and reuse them with new line,easy, the other parts of the rig dont wear out much. the other thing is I take out a lot of novices who only have to clip on the items & i'm not having to spend time helping them. plus obviosly I can make up as many as i like of each at home . Bagged out on sunday 12 with quality snapper off morton.

Daintreeboy
15-06-2005, 01:47 PM
http://www.marinews.com/fishing/Knots%20&%20Rigging/fk_droploop.htm

I do it this way, works a treat.
Cheers, Mark.

Dignity
23-06-2005, 05:06 PM
Ive heard that a soft plastic (with lightest possible jig head) on the bottom dropper and bait on top dropper has been accounting for some good catches. I usually fish a very solid sinker as helps set the hook in deeper waters unless using braids.
Cheers, Jay

Jay, recently I tried the same rig but I must admit that I used the SP on the top rig. Was off top end of Fraser a couple of weeks ago and this rig did take fish, still experimenting. If the weather slows down over the next week or so will get out there and try again. Mate told me he just puts one SP on a paternoster rig and leaves it in the rod holder and lets the swell do all the action. Been checking a few websites re SP's on paternoster rigs and most of them use a rig with a bead above and below the hook on the main line (double uni knot used to tie the rig). This apparently makes the SP stand at 90 degrees to the main line, haven't tried it but will be giving it a go.

Heath, I use 4 different rigs depending on time and the amount of effort needed.

1) 3 way swivels with droppers formed from these. If using 3 ways I generally only have 1 dropper but the trace willl be 1 metre long. Found this to be efffective when fish are a bit wary.

2) Twisted dropper when there is a bit of slack time and I can make up a spare rig or 2 between fish. Top paternoster about 500 mm long bottom one about 250mm. Have no idea why but seems to work for me.

3) Rig as per Daintreeboys or as analternative

4) Haven't got the website whre I found this beauty but this is a quick an easy method which I found is useful when the fish are biting and there is little time to do anything - also supposed to have good original line strength - take the main line and double it, at the point where you want the dropper formed twist a small loop in the line and continue twisting the loop about 3 - 4 times then take the remaining loop (dropper) and put it throught the twisted loop just formed and pull tight. Can do this one in about 3 secs.


What do you use Heath?


Cheers Sam

Heath
23-06-2005, 05:39 PM
Twisted dropper. Just interested in any alternatives out there.

bigred
23-06-2005, 05:55 PM
I use 50lb braid and a 50lb leader with a quick release cilp on the end of the leader.
then I make up 50lb rigs at home with a twisted dropper knot and make them long eanough to put a half hitch around the tail of a pilchard or whole squid oh and i run a keeper hook as well as a main hook. cant see any point in having more than one droper. I have found that bigger fish hit a single bait. I tie a swivel to the top and leave a tail for the lead, that i tie on to suit the conditions, put them in zip lock bags and when you have a bust up is't just a matter of clipping on a new rig. and if your wondering why I use same breaking strain main line,leader & rig. it always breaks at the twisted dropper knot.

Tight Lines, David