Native title claim in Redlands

[chris69]

Just on tv tonight’s news they showed a map of the claim and by by fishing
Mud Island and Peel by the looks of it they own it not us.

[shortthenlong]

It has been ongoing for 5 years at this stage

https://www.redland.qld.gov.au/info/20163/quandamooka_country/592/native_title_on_redlands_coast

[chris69]

It’s all getting a bit silly and once it starts others will start other claims and all our fishing spots will be no more.

[Noelm]

There already is claims all over the place, not just there. The “land claim” process is quite complicated, and it seems the claim is quite well organised, not too sure on the final outcome.

[banshee]

OK there are forty thousand native title claims in NSW alone.How do you inform yourself of claims in your own backyard?

[disorderly]

There already is claims all over the place, not just there. The “land claim” process is quite complicated, and it seems the claim is quite well organised, not too sure on the final outcome.

You better stop chucking those old oyster shells down the back yard Noel...they might claim they are a midden and take your house..;)

[docaster]

What is it, 50% is native title and another 16% still being determined.
So ironical we're funding our own demise to the UN.
Poor bastards don't know how they're being used.

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[docaster]

So how do councils pay pay for all the polished seats?
Is the king forking the bill as they didn't get a treaty originally?
Imagine the serfs having to pay for the retribution of "land they were instructed by the king to "occupy" to enrich the crown"
The so called "elites" have never had it so good. Back in the day at least they had to pay for our lodging and food lol.

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[docaster]

As it stands Indigenous people have not agreed to be governed by the crown. And because of that the WHO and the UN cannot tell us what to do. The ''voice'' will effectively have the Indigenous people agree with the government to completely sell off our sovereignty to the UN, WHO and the WEF to bring us completely within the agenda 2030 one world order.

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[alleycat]

[QUOTE=docaster;1704607]As it stands Indigenous people have not agreed to be governed by the crown. And because of that the WHO and the UN cannot tell us what to do. The ''voice'' will effectively have the Indigenous people agree with the government to completely sell off our sovereignty to the UN, WHO and the WEF to bring us completely within the agenda 2030 one world order.

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They seem to have no problem agreeing to welfare, housing, health, education ect paid for by govt and funded by the taxpayer.

[Lovey80]

What is it, 50% is native title and another 16% still being determined.
So ironical we're funding our own demise to the UN.
Poor bastards don't know how they're being used.

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What has the UN got to do with any of this?

[Dignity]

What has the UN got to do with any of this?

A short reply

"In 1994, the United Nations General Assembly adopted resolutions A/RES/48/163 and launched the International Decade of the World's Indigenous Peoples (1995-2004) to increase the United Nations' commitment to promoting and protecting the rights of Indigenous Peoples worldwide"

[tunaticer]

OK there are forty thousand native title claims in NSW alone.How do you inform yourself of claims in your own backyard?

You should be informed by the government and the native title department before the claim is made if your property is within the claim area...I can not see either of them chasing down every land owner / leasee with this notification, but it should be law.
You should also be informed of your rights before hand if the native title claim is successful....another point that will sadly be missed.

[docaster]

Native title could be another way for a land grab by government. Say a private property becomes under claim and is successful. Ok, "we won't kick you off, but when you die, the property reverts to native title ". No more inheritance. We all know the labour government has stated all inheritance are null and goes to the government, on their communistic wish list.
After all "you will own nothing and be happier". Another statement by swarby "You'll be under surveillance and you will be happier "
And his right hand man "what do we do with the useless eaters"

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[docaster]

Native title could be another way for a land grab by government. Say a private property becomes under claim and is successful. Ok, "we won't kick you off, but when you die, the property reverts to native title ". No more inheritance. We all know the labour government has stated all inheritance are null and goes to the government, on their communistic wish list.
After all "you will own nothing and be happier". Another statement by swarby "You'll be under surveillance and you will be happier "
And his right hand man "what do we do with the useless eaters"

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[Lovey80]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vSqIFsw72hA&si=yleh450ufB9Qe_sE

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This is also being pushed by the left wing nut job that has been put in charge of the productivity commission. Both the TAI and the Grattan institutes are constantly looking for ways to increase the revenue base. The Productivity commission woman was justifying it, saying that a huge amount of the wealth is being locked up by the boomers who are an ageing demographic and the generations coming behind them are going to be on struggle street paying a much larger share of taxes than their predecessors. Yet in the next breath the same people that are on struggle street are going to be slugged by this inheritance tax.

As soon as any economist references the structural funding gaps we are facing into the future and focuses on raising revenue rather than cutting spending my eyes roll as they are irrelevant twats. You keep doing this for long enough, eventually reality will bite and we will have another France on our hands when the people push back.

[Flex]

Ive seen native title ramifications play out first hand.

(In regards to the Redland area in not sure what parts will be exclusive or non-exclusive.)

But he's an example of what usually happens.

Local council wants to do improvements in an area (EG at Redlands it might want to do build a new kids park on the cleveland water front or extend a foot path etc that was once council land and now is under native title.)

They.ll now need to consult with native title holders, additionally give them a chunk of rate payers money as well.

I have seen this play out at a northern QLD boat ramp car park. It was a disputed boundary from 2 native title owners and the local council wanted to do some upgrades.

Each tribe wanted a $10,000 payment to "allow" the building of the car park.

Eventually the council didn't proceed as a matter of principal.

So you can guarantee any native title in urban/built up areas will mean less council services for the rate payers