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Splash
31-05-2022, 06:10 AM
Hello.

What are your thoughts on the DF200AP Suzuki outboard for offshore work ?

What instrumentation setup Is ideal for this outboard?

Is ‘fly-by-wire’ beneficial and worth having on this motor?

This Thread Scope discussion is only limited to this single outboard (and no other brands) please.


Splash

Flex
31-05-2022, 09:07 AM
I assume you're asking about the 4cyliner one? suzuki do a 4 and 6 cyl 200hp.



I owned a pair of 150AP's fly by wire on a noosacat. Exact same engine as the 200AP .
IMO suzuki make the best motor for long range offshore fishing boats. (honda close second)
nothing wrong with other brands at all, but if you were to be ultra picky and choose horses for courses you can. (eg mercury is a better engine if your chasing speed due to prop choices)

This is entirely due to the gear ratio's they use and lean burn control. (reliability etc is just as good among all engines today, anyone who tells you otherwise is ignorant)

most engines go on heavier fishing boats so the ability to spin bigger props is significantly helpful and get you the best fuel economy. suzuki seem to get slightly better economy than other engines if you compare apples to apples.
it may only mean 10% better economy, but every little bit counts when you do long range runs fishing

fly by wire is simply a luxury. Not needed but its bloody nice to have.

ranmar850
31-05-2022, 10:15 AM
Just generally, on the subject of FBW, it IS really nice to have. I've been driving a mate's 2300 Caribbean a lot lately, 300hp Yamaha FBW, just a pleasure to use once you get used to the sensitivity compared to mechanical. I haven't driven it in any really bad conditions, on/off throttle stuff, that could take some adapting. How do they make it so they go into gear quietly on FBW vs the clunk of mechanical?? I see Suzuki offer FBW right down to 140hp now.

Any_Weather
31-05-2022, 10:23 AM
Hi Splash, yeh the DF200AP are great. I have just upgraded from a pair of the original DF175 (2013 models) to these and the difference is amazing. The FBW is great, so smooth. Not that the cable is bad, this is just better. I went with the Suzuki gauges and networked up to my Garmin MFD. the Bly downside of the Suzuki gauges is the inability to add fuel to the fuel meter. The only option is to reset to full. The Garmin overcomes this. If you always fill up, it isn’t an issue but I don’t.

Cheers
Lee


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Splash
31-05-2022, 10:53 PM
Thank you guys - great responses. It’s helped a lot. Yes - it’s the 4 cylinder 2.9L block.

I would like to know more about which gauges to use for this outboard? Would appreciate further input from you good people.


Splash

NAGG
01-06-2022, 07:50 AM
SMG4 gauges are fine - Having 2 gauges gives you the scope to set up the information you want . Like running two sounders (one for Nav & one for Sounding)

I had a single multifunction gauge on my last Yammi - good gauge but you had to continually scroll through it .

Chris

Splash
01-06-2022, 11:33 AM
Thanks.

What guage(s) come with a new DF200APX ?

Splash

NAGG
01-06-2022, 01:08 PM
Thanks.

What guage(s) come with a new DF200APX ?

Splash

I'm pretty sure you will be able to choose

Splash
01-06-2022, 09:25 PM
I wish I could but no.

All I’ve been told by BC is that only 1 x ORM guage will be supplied and installed with this motor…

NAGG
02-06-2022, 07:22 AM
I wish I could but no.

All I’ve been told by BC is that only 1 x ORM guage will be supplied and installed with this motor…

That may be the standard inclusion - did you ask about other options ?
My boat has dual gauges & I've seen plenty of others with two

Chris

Splash
02-06-2022, 08:09 AM
Thanks Chris. Good to know. I really don’t know what other options exist for this motor?

What is the best place to look for these options for gauges?

NAGG
02-06-2022, 08:56 AM
Thanks Chris. Good to know. I really don’t know what other options exist for this motor?

What is the best place to look for these options for gauges?

Talk to your dealer - they will give you the options open to you

I reckon a pair of MFG4s would suffice - then link your motor with your sounder

This video does glance over the larger screen options - In my mind too big for a tinny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtZcMKnPq3E

Splash
02-06-2022, 09:00 AM
Great thanks.

What maximum size MFD would you recommend to finto the helm panel for the 670C?

Solash

NAGG
02-06-2022, 05:07 PM
Great thanks.

What maximum size MFD would you recommend to finto the helm panel for the 670C?

Solash

I would just go with a pair of the 4" gauges for a boat like yours

Chris

Dignity
02-06-2022, 06:54 PM
It almost sounds like BC can't give a damn about the customer, have they too many on their books?