View Full Version : look how desperate the americans are getting
gazza2006au
06-01-2022, 10:53 PM
Just today i was reading about people fuming over jetskis taking longer than expected to import and swapping dealers that promiss a quicker deliver
Look at this bloke 10k x 2 USD extra because hes desperate
Mopheus
07-01-2022, 01:41 AM
A quick search says he runs Smith Marine Group, and the 425 Yamahas are outboards. A likely explanation is he has a commercial client - charter boat operator or similar - who needs new engines and is losing money every day they don't have them.
Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Sucks when you draw the short straw and have to pay a premium, but them's the breaks.
ranmar850
07-01-2022, 01:14 PM
Huge waiting lists on the larger HP stuff of any brand in the US. Just reading between the lines on THT, Suzuki seem to be the best, but still at least 3 months, then Yamaha next worst,( 12 months or more on 300hp?) then Merc, due to the phenominal success of their new range. You'll get new price, or better on low hours s/hand, but what will you then put on your transom? Builders putting motors on new transoms have always had first dibs on motors in the US, re-powers are well down the list.
stevej
07-01-2022, 02:01 PM
one person wanting something in a hurry does not need a new post of more sensationalist rubbish
they are 45k usd each plus rigging whats another 5k each
i ordered a toyota today and it is going to take 5-6 months "maybe"
people are paying above to try and get cars sooner are australians desperate too ?
Lovey80
07-01-2022, 06:14 PM
one person wanting something in a hurry does not need a new post of more sensationalist rubbish
they are 45k usd each plus rigging whats another 5k each
i ordered a toyota today and it is going to take 5-6 months "maybe"
people are paying above to try and get cars sooner are australians desperate too ?
I hope you have a clause specifically in your contract where the dealer can’t change the price after the car arrives. I’ve heard some horror stories in the past year of dealer making people wait up to 11 months to see their new cruiser only to add many thousands on top of the original agreed upon price once that car lands.
Apparently it was in the fine print and people either had to eat the extra cash or go back to another dealer and get to the back of the line because others were waiting too and were prepared to pay overs.
disorderly
07-01-2022, 06:31 PM
I hope you have a clause specifically in your contract where the dealer can’t change the price after the car arrives. I’ve heard some horror stories in the past year of dealer making people wait up to 11 months to see their new cruiser only to add many thousands on top of the original agreed upon price once that car lands.
Apparently it was in the fine print and people either had to eat the extra cash or go back to another dealer and get to the back of the line because others were waiting too and were prepared to pay overs.
I cant see that clause happening Lovey...how can a dealer guarantee the price of a car or boat and accessories they are ordering from a distributer or factory will not rise in 6-12 months when they finally receive it...
There is probably a clause in almost all contracts now to say that there may be price rises for a future delivery due to any number of reasons ....some would be quite valid and some could be seen as profiteering but its a fact that prices are quite volitile in this uncertain world we are living in....
stevej
07-01-2022, 09:02 PM
I can’t see anything like that written in the contract
they can cancel it for various reasons as can I but nothing about being forced to pay more
disorderly
07-01-2022, 09:50 PM
Weird Steve, there have been a number of complaints I read on various boat forums about increased costs upon delivery after build delays above what was signed up on with the original deposit...some of many thousands ..
Given that raw aluminium prices have risen from about US$2000 per tonne in early 2021 to nearly $3000 less then a year later plus the huge increase in container importation costs and rise in other costs like Outboards, its only to be expected..
Some of the wait times seem to be 6-12 months and even more for some of the smaller Qld builders..
How long is your wait time Steve..?
gazza2006au
07-01-2022, 10:45 PM
One would think if a dealer were to pull your shirt over the head like this they would either be sued or go bust, lots of people chose a dealer based on past reviews
But it is a greedy world, rich today broke tomorrow as they say
gazza2006au
07-01-2022, 10:59 PM
While people are fighting each other for new outboards all around the world, i was just scrolling thru my feed on fb andthis came up dirt cheap too would be nice pushing a F233
stevej
08-01-2022, 12:42 AM
Weird Steve, there have been a number of complaints I read on various boat forums about increased costs upon delivery after build delays above what was signed up on with the original deposit...some of many thousands ..
Given that raw aluminium prices have risen from about US$2000 per tonne in early 2021 to nearly $3000 less then a year later plus the huge increase in container importation costs and rise in other costs like Outboards, its only to be expected..
Some of the wait times seem to be 6-12 months and even more for some of the smaller Qld builders..
How long is your wait time Steve..?
i guess the costs are fixed at time of order, maybe
Dealer will let me know once it’s started build but their guess was end of may to mid June
they are made in Austria so probably longer shipping then a Asian made car as the bulk of Toyotas are
disorderly
08-01-2022, 11:12 AM
While people are fighting each other for new outboards all around the world, i was just scrolling thru my feed on fb andthis came up dirt cheap too would be nice pushing a F233
First week of the year and we are already back on Fantasy Island...
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