Talica Vs Speedmaster

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Hey All

To go with my great overhead holy grail hunt (7ft , 40lb , long butt) I'm going to be also in the hunt for a reel to go with it ::)

I'll be using 40lb Tasline (likely) ... maybe 50lb

The front runner is the Shimano Talica 12 .... It has 18kgs of drag (lever drag) , good line capacity & is a well made reel by all accounts ..... it should be for $600 ish

What about the Shimano Speed master 12 .... It also has 18kgs of drag (lever drag) etc ...... but it does appear to be a lighter reel - but some $200 less

How would the two reels compare side by side in that heavier bait fishing scenario .

I'm a bit surprised that the Talica is 85 grams lighter

Anyhoos , I 'm keen to hear your comments on both reels . as I've no experience with either ......

Chris

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I have a 2 speed Talica and I think it is great. The 18kg drag is why I have it. Probably wouldn't get a 2 speed again only seem to use the low speed when attached to sharks. I fish with in in Queensland so that is a tick for your plan.

No experience with the Speedmaster

Matt

[Volvo]

Both Shimano , both look the goods , why not go which one saves you more $$..

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Both Shimano , both look the goods , why not go which one saves you more $$..

There has to be a reason for the price difference - you would think . I know the talica is a good reel

I didn't mention it but the Daiwa Saltiga LDs would be in the mix too ...... pricing a bit above the Talica.

I dont really mind paying the coin knowing that you may have this reel for the next decade or so ..... but then I have to weigh up how often will this outfit be used .

Chris

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There has to be a reason for the price difference - you would think .


Bearings. Drag material Shiny gold bits

[Iron Maiden]

Love my Talica's - 2 x 12's, 1 x 10, 1 x 8 all single speed.

[Spaniard_King]

Had Talica's for years, mainly 2 speeds. They still require servicing to maintain there reliability, currently runing ceramic bearing for improved performance

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Bearings. Drag material Shiny gold bits

Painted rather than machined finish - more use of plastic (lever drag) as some of the others

Chris

[disorderly]

Where do you guys get your Shimano bearings and spares from..?

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Painted rather than machined finish - more use of plastic (lever drag) as some of the others

Chris

No feedback on the Speedmaster it seems. Do you have a local store where you can go run your hands over both? Is there stock of both available in the timeframe you are looking at? I know just picking one up in a shop isn't the same as using it but sometimes you just get a vibe. :drunk::jester::freak:

Matt

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No feedback on the Speedmaster it seems. Do you have a local store where you can go run your hands over both? Is there stock of both available in the timeframe you are looking at? I know just picking one up in a shop isn't the same as using it but sometimes you just get a vibe. :drunk::jester::freak:

Matt

Hi Matt

I wont be purchasing anything without me attaching it to the rod that I intend to use - particularly an outfit like this . The balance need to be right.

I'm keen to see the Daiwa offerings alongside the Talica & Speedmaster - so once the rod is sorted I'll head to Otto's & check them all out on the rod . Luckily I've got some time up my sleeve

Chris

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Ended up with a Talica 16 & putting it on a Shimano Anthem 30-50lb .

The Talica 16 felt like the bast match .

While I'm a Daiwa fanboy - the new Saltiga OH is a beast of a reel but more suited to game fishing & didn't balance with the outfit .

The extra couple of hundred for the Talica over the Speedmaster is money well spent IMO - it just feels a more substantial reel. 8-)

Chris

[bluefin59]

Ended up with a Talica 16 & putting it on a Shimano Anthem 30-50lb .

The Talica 16 felt like the bast match .

While I'm a Daiwa fanboy - the new Saltiga OH is a beast of a reel but more suited to game fishing & didn't balance with the outfit .

The extra couple of hundred for the Talica over the Speedmaster is money well spent IMO - it just feels a more substantial reel. 8-)

Chris

Sounds good get one of these as a backup hahahahttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211031/85d322681fd42fe5baa32eb988f3358a.jpg

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;D
Sounds good get one of these as a backup hahahahttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211031/85d322681fd42fe5baa32eb988f3358a.jpg

;D ....... never been a fan of a handline - I think I moved on from them when I was a kid

Chris

[Ducksnutz]

It’s really all you need up North Queensland Chris. I have a mate who is licensed for commercial coral trout and hand lines are all he uses out of his 5 metre Hooker dory. Bit of electrical tape around his fingers and good to go.

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It’s really all you need up North Queensland Chris. I have a mate who is licensed for commercial coral trout and hand lines are all he uses out of his 5 metre Hooker dory. Bit of electrical tape around his fingers and good to go.

I cant think of anything worst than handlining - perhaps deck winch & electric reels .

I'm strictly a rod & reel kind of bloke .

Chris

[Ducksnutz]

I cant think of anything worst than handlining - perhaps deck winch & electric reels .

I'm strictly a rod & reel kind of bloke .

Chris
Same mate. Some of the catches he sends through though makes you wonder why we spend the coin to catch something that he does on a normal day out with a bloody hand line.

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Same mate. Some of the catches he sends through though makes you wonder why we spend the coin to catch something that he does on a normal day out with a bloody hand line.

I get it - That's his living & a handline would be the most efficient way of landing a fish - no different with commercial jew fishoes down this way with their handline & springers .

I even use a rod to catch live bait & I've never carried a handline on a boat that I have owned . ...... each to their own

Chris

[Volvo]

When i had my Reefboat there was always a handline oboard or should i say two handlines , one fer me and one fer the Missus for when in shallow water chasing Lipper or Trout.
Three ganged hooks a Pilles and a running small sinker running right up to the sinker was and still is the quickest way to land both those species when on the bight :)..
Mindyou deeper water is a different story ..
If your strictly Sportfishing the handline is out of the equation but Bread n Butter Fishernman then the game changes slightly.
Only time i normally used a handline is as above mentioned .

[bluefin59]

I love using a rod but after Cooktown I really enjoyed the hand to hand contact with the fish especially after getting smoked on my saltiga 3 times . Being shown how to do effectively was just another experience in my fishing life , I did it as a kid and always had a pilly floating out the back in years gone by . But having said that I’m back with a new rod on my saltiga as I am finding difficult fishing the way I was and as I get older I’m finding it’s getting tougher . Iv enjoyed the multitude of different methods and styles and the evolution of lighter more powerful equipment. Matt

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I'm yet to hear anyone say "nice handline mate" ..... or hear of anyone spending weeks looking for the perfect handline ;D
The evolution of the handline .... plastic reel or coke bottle . I'm waiting for someone to put up a report on their new carbon fiber handline caster ::) .
Hell you cant even have a Shimano vs Daiwa thing when it comes to hand lines.

But hey , If you want to impress someone with your handlines - USE BRAID :)

Nah , sorry nothing beats handing over a big wad of cash for that new fishing outfit ....... then the anticipation of actually using it .

Chris

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https://www.fishingyoyito.com/

Not carbon fibre but 60 USD and it comes in gold.

Matt

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https://www.fishingyoyito.com/

Not carbon fibre but 60 USD and it comes in gold.

Matt

I'd love to see someone use that up on the reef ...... US$65 ::)

Chris

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I'd love to see someone use that up on the reef ...... US$65 ::)

Chris

I didn't read too much as I was distracted by the link to Naked and Afraid. But having grown up in FNQ with a father that handlined everything I'm pretty sure I would have been left at home if I turned up with a yoyito even in gold.

Matt

[disorderly]

Geez, not much love for the humble handline ...

Hope this link works...

https://www.facebook.com/100260235477311/videos/237861831603498

It shows just how cool is is to be directly connected to a fish with just a piece of string...quite a raw and primal feeling...my missus wears gloves but I dont bother with them or a finger stall...the cuts and burns are part of the experience..

I love the handline with 80lb schneider line for reef fishing to 25-30m and also for Spotty fishing with just an unweighted hook and half a pillie...they are also a lot better for landing trout as if you have your wits about you, you can mostly stop them before they manage to get back under the coral...you just get bricked far too often with a rod with that initial hit and run that trout are so good at......

But a Talica will probably be my next reel for wreck and shoal fishing for Reds in the deeper water..

If you fancy boys have never used a handline for Reef fishing just try it before you knock it...;);D

[NAGG]

Geez, not much love for the humble handline ...

Hope this link works...

https://www.facebook.com/100260235477311/videos/237861831603498

It shows just how cool is is to be directly connected to a fish with just a piece of string...quite a raw and primal feeling...my missus wears gloves but I dont bother with them or a finger stall...the cuts and burns are part of the experience..

I love the handline with 80lb schneider line for reef fishing to 25-30m and also for Spotty fishing with just an unweighted hook and half a pillie...they are also a lot better for landing trout as if you have your wits about you, you can mostly stop them before they manage to get back under the coral...you just get bricked far too often with a rod with that initial hit and run that trout are so good at......

But a Talica will probably be my next reel for wreck and shoal fishing for Reds in the deeper water..

If you fancy boys have never used a handline for Reef fishing just try it before you knock it...;);D

Once was enough ...... pulling kingfish out of the bommie at fish rock (South West Rocks) - using parachute cord .

Nah , bent rods & screaming drags for me

Not to mention the bling factor ....... I couldn't imagine staring at a hand caster 124929

Chris

[bluefin59]

Geez, not much love for the humble handline ...

Hope this link works...

https://www.facebook.com/100260235477311/videos/237861831603498

It shows just how cool is is to be directly connected to a fish with just a piece of string...quite a raw and primal feeling...my missus wears gloves but I dont bother with them or a finger stall...the cuts and burns are part of the experience..

I love the handline with 80lb schneider line for reef fishing to 25-30m and also for Spotty fishing with just an unweighted hook and half a pillie...they are also a lot better for landing trout as if you have your wits about you, you can mostly stop them before they manage to get back under the coral...you just get bricked far too often with a rod with that initial hit and run that trout are so good at......

But a Talica will probably be my next reel for wreck and shoal fishing for Reds in the deeper water..

If you fancy boys have never used a handline for Reef fishing just try it before you knock it...;);D

Until you’ve been shown and are willing to give it a go you’ll never understand I guess , I love my blingy rods and reels shit I just bought a new rod for the reefs down here for my saltiga . But in Cooktown at least you couldn’t afford to give the fish an inch otherwise you’d end up in the reef or they get eaten by the sharks, handling you give them nothing rod and reel the drag and rod give them too much . But up to you I guess but I know None of the pros use rods up that way .Matt

[bluefin59]

Once was enough ...... pulling kingfish out of the bommie at fish rock (South West Rocks) - using parachute cord .

Nah , bent rods & screaming drags for me

Not to mention the bling factor ....... I couldn't imagine staring at a hand caster 124929

Chris

Nice outfit I must say that should hopefully slay a few .

[bluefin59]

Geez, not much love for the humble handline ...

Hope this link works...

https://www.facebook.com/100260235477311/videos/237861831603498

It shows just how cool is is to be directly connected to a fish with just a piece of string...quite a raw and primal feeling...my missus wears gloves but I dont bother with them or a finger stall...the cuts and burns are part of the experience..

I love the handline with 80lb schneider line for reef fishing to 25-30m and also for Spotty fishing with just an unweighted hook and half a pillie...they are also a lot better for landing trout as if you have your wits about you, you can mostly stop them before they manage to get back under the coral...you just get bricked far too often with a rod with that initial hit and run that trout are so good at......

But a Talica will probably be my next reel for wreck and shoal fishing for Reds in the deeper water..

If you fancy boys have never used a handline for Reef fishing just try it before you knock it...;);D

Yep it’s a whole new method if your shown the right way , I tried with my saltiga outfit and caught a few but got smoked a couple of times and was told throw that thing up in the rod holder and jump on the handline . After being shown the technique and told to get my thongs off I never went back up that way ,it was arm over arm combat but never giving an inch . Loved it but now it’s back to the saltiga down here and the handline is in the cabinet until I buy another boat . Matthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211109/24351503ef6282e9fc221ff807ab52c0.jpg
This little fella could handline like a demon and he was fussy with his bait , he always wanted the tail of the Husser

[disorderly]

Great pic that Matt..

Great bloke there as well taking newbies and kids out in his boat and showing them fishing FNQ style..some of them will make memories for life..

Doesnt get much better..even if they do get a few cuts and burns on the fingers..

[bluefin59]

Great pic that Matt..

Great bloke there as well taking newbies and kids out in his boat and showing them fishing FNQ style..some of them will make memories for life..

Doesnt get much better..even if they do get a few cuts and burns on the fingers..

The young fella is his grandson that lives with them , he’s nothing like a city kid he’s got it in spades and is great fun to have hanging around . Matt