The site Ignore function

[Ronje1]

The owner of this site has the advice "Dont feed the trolls" and there are a few of them on here.

If left unchecked they'll eventually cause the demise of the site.

People pay a minimum of $10 to post (up to $40).

Advertisers (hoping that the conversations will attract viewers to their message) pay anything up to $1000 to advertise.

So there's considerable money changes hands in the running of the site.

If people cease contributing to conversations then there's nothing to attract users to be exposed to the advertisers messages. Advertising will drop off as people leave. Some have already.

In addition, member contributions will dry up.

If you believe that there's harrassment taking place to the detriment of the site (or yourself) catalogue it with content, time, date and copies.

Harassment is not a one-off activity. It has to be repeated to be classed as such and there's plenty of repeated examples on here.

The site manager is a volunteer, has little time to afford in looking at problems and is also committed to making a living.

So present him with a complaint PLUS the evidence to back it up so that he doesn't have to search for it.

Meanwhile, just put the trolls on your ignore list. Its easy to do and you don't even know that they're there.

They'll soon put up enough evidence to hang themselves.

Don't be afraid to use the ignore function. Everybody gains from its use. That's what it was designed for.

Even if one of these guys wants to genuinely contribute to a conversation, then its too bad. That's the price they pay. They'll be stuck within their own mutual admiration society.

What these guys are trying to do is to disrupt and disturb member conversations with the intention of discouraging conversations that members have paid money to do and that advertisers have also paid money to display their services or products.

Its as simple as that.

Next move is the owners.

[shortthenlong]

The ignore button- taking the discussion out of discussion board one differing opinion at a time

Matt

[gazza2006au]

Totally agree Ronj, since my ban my ignore option has been takin away as has my picture uploading function

[Paul071978]

Ronj where is the ignore button and please explain how it works. Does it block private messages? Or stop someone from posting in a thread altogether?

[Ronje1]

Hello Paul

The ignore function allows you to see that somebody on your list has posted a message but doesn't display the contents. That poster's message is simply not displayed. And the person stays ignored until/unless YOU decide if you want to read anything from him.

It does not stop someone from posting. Only admin can do that.

There's one of these guys a couple of posts above right now (Shortenlong). I've previously chosen not to read ANYTHING that he puts up. He might be putting in a genuine contribution for all I know but his previous repeated actions suggest not.

Usually these things are simply a continuation of the attacks and conveying the message that these guys (who have the intention to distrupt) have rights allowing them to continue. That Its their right to carry on the way that they do. They are victims

according to them.

But their public claims of being a victim with rights (that you see) is completely different to what's sent privately.

And how can they stop all that from happening? Use the ignore function. However, they don't because they want to see the posts and attack them and the poster.

I'll screenshoot what I'm seeing and put up how to use the function effectively

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[Noelm]

Been on and off forums for a very long time, had a few "debates" but have never had the need to ignore anyone, if I don't agree with what someone says, and if I think it's important or maybe a potential safety issue I just say so, or simply don't bother reading or replying, but, that's just me.

[Ronje1]

Well said, Noel.

There should be no need to use the function in the normal running of debates, discussions or conversations.

Basically a forum is a meeting place for discussion. Just like a public meeting in a hall.

What we have here is public meeting place alright except there's a group of interjectors trying to howl down discussion subjects and/or individuals that they don't like.

[Ronje1]

Paul
When you login look up at the top RHS of the page where it says "Welcome".

Just to the right of Welcome is a red "member control panel" option.

Click that and it'll take you to the control panel column on the LHS of the page.

The 3rd black heading down says My Settings.

Scroll down into My Account then "Edit Ignore List".

Rest is easy.

[Noelm]

Yes and no, if it's just a difference of opinion, then "bring it on" but, if continual personal insults or the like persist, then simply report the offender, and let mods deal with it, anything else just move on, getting the shits about trivial things like my motor is better than yours is not worth the heart ache (in my opinion) it makes for interesting banter, but, it's not going to change the world, and no one is going to get hurt, just skip over it, join in or not, that's your choice. If a person asks for advice, then offer it if you have some knowledge, the person may accept the advice or argue about it, if the person argues about good advice, then just move on, you can let them know your no longer interested, or just simply not reply, I do both, mostly just keep out of it, now and then maybe a suggestion to agree to disagree, but more often, just opt out. Internet forums are filled with people who don't know each other and "keyboard warriors" you soon learn who's who, some people are not worth the effort, most are great and someone you would be more than happy to have a beer with, I have met some great people in forums (including here) and met them in person, some are a complete surprise, nothing like you expected, others just like you expected, but in the end, we all share a common "bond" or we wouldn't be here in the first place.

[TheRealPoMo]

I'll put my $0.02 in as I have been through this on another forum just this week.
Sadly for the first time in 20 years of membership of various forums, i had to use the ignore feature on a persistent troll - a real one, not like on here.

What I can tell you is that this site's ignore functionality is quite primitive (unless I have missed some setting somewhere).
If you were to ignore someone, yes you don't see their posts but you do see when another member quotes them in their reply.
This other site has a setting to block that as well.
Additionally on the other site, the ignored person is blocked from seeing your posts.
This works quite well but if this is the limit of the functionality here, it's not really effective.

I've seen nothing here that would make me use it.

BTW Gazza - if you are banned, how are you still posting ? Another feature of this site ?

Cheers all.

[Ronje1]

Again, agree whole heartedly, Noel. Nothing unreasonable about any of that.

But the stuff I'm talking about IS unreasonable and its happening.

Here's an example of some of it just the other day:

What are you stalking me you ####wit, Ron or Douglas or whoever the #### you are, why won't you put your real name up, no ####in gut's.

and some more

What's it like to be unliked as you are, you are just a hero who likes to put up long winded posts to make youself look smart, then someone ask's you a few question's & you take all your post's down.

And some more

I just like the way Wahoo f/c said it, you got butthurt by someone asking some questions relating to your posts just like Gazza. (even Gazza got a mention and he's not involved in this).

Yet suddenly this same guy is publicly claiming to be a victim.

That's the environment into which this forum has degenerated. For years I was paid to tolerate insults so they're like water on a duck's back to me.

But few members want to take part in conversations that interest them when they are exposed to the pile-ons and deliberate disruption that these guys all take part in. The members and the site suffers.

[Noelm]

I think Gaz only had a bit of time in the sin bin, not a total ban? I have only ever been banned from one site, (not this one) and that was for something I knew nothing about, another member contacted admin and sorted it out, the site owner contacted me and said I could come back, I kind of thought about it a bit trying to decide if I wanted to belong to a site that just banned someone without a PM saying so, or asking for an explanation, but in the end I went back, and still belong today. I have had a few warnings from a certain site for differing views though!

[Noelm]

Again, agree whole heartedly, Noel. Nothing unreasonable about any of that.

But the stuff I'm talking about IS unreasonable and its happening.

Here's an example of some of it just the other day:

What are you stalking me you ####wit, Ron or Douglas or whoever the #### you are, why won't you put your real name up, no ####in gut's.

and some more

What's it like to be unliked as you are, you are just a hero who likes to put up long winded posts to make youself look smart, then someone ask's you a few question's & you take all your post's down.

And some more

I just like the way Wahoo f/c said it, you got butthurt by someone asking some questions relating to your posts just like Gazza. (even Gazza got a mention and he's not involved in this).

Yet suddenly this same guy is publicly claiming to be a victim.

That's the environment into which this forum has degenerated. For years I was paid to tolerate insults so they're like water on a duck's back to me.

But few members want to take part in conversations that interest them when they are exposed to the pile-ons and deliberate disruption that these guys all take part in. The members and the site suffers.
Yeah, stuff like that is no warranted, there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone, in fact it's good, we all can't agree on everything, it's how the world works, debate, argue, put your point across is all good I reckon, even a bit of slightly heated banter is fine, but leave the insults to Facebook.

[TheRealPoMo]

When was this stuff posted Ronje?

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[Ronje1]

Within the last couple of days as a pm so it wasn't a public post. When he did pop up again publicly, he was suddenly a victim.

Gives an insight into the workings of a troll's mind. This guy is a follower not an organiser. There's another one mentioned (no. not gazza).

Spoke to Phil the other day about maybe slowing some of these guys down a bit so that members might get a clear go at subjects that interest them.

The use of the ignore function came up as a first step.

[Noelm]

I guess in a twisted kind of way, a hostile PM is different to a public post, it's kind of a step closer to "face to face" doesn't make it right, but kind of personalises an expression rather than just a public rant? I don't know why anyone has to get all up tight about a persons view/belief/experience, just human nature I suppose.

[TheRealPoMo]

Well if it was a PM, then it's not really a matter for ignore, is it ?
Have the moderators deal with it.
It could be said you should not be posting PM content in the forum.
Anyway, explains why I haven't seen an issue here.

Cheers

[Noelm]

I guess a PM can be posted, there's no names and the PM is your own "private message" so you can do what you like with it?

[stevej]

Ok seems like this post was just an excuse to air the pms, most know the block function exists
if you followed your own advice you never would have received them in the first place

there’s a difference between “trolling” and correcting outright rubbish sprouted by some
also if someone is so thin skinned they can’t handle debate start a personal blog if you don’t want any feedback or Alternate views that’ may get you so upset you have to delete your posts.

[Ronje1]

So site harrassment is OK as long as its not public? Is that the message?

Have the moderators deal with it.

Look back 2 posts

Spoke to Phil (he's the moderator) the other day about maybe slowing some of these guys down a bit so that members might get a clear go at subjects that interest them.
The use of the ignore function came up as a first step.

Hence this thread about the ignore function.

It could be said you should not be posting PM content in the forum.

Who could be saying that? As Noelm said, there are no identifiers on it and its MY message so I can do what I like with it. These guys started doing it (with identifiers) but that's ok?


I think that you're missing the inherent message that these sorts of activities are conveying. The fact that this stuff is going on shows the site standard which personal interaction has reached. Its currently at the facebook standard of anything goes.

In the (slightly modified) words of Edmund Burke of 251 years ago, "the only thing necessary for bad things to triumph is for good people to do nothing."

Its easy to do nothing or to look for and promote reasons NOT to do something.

Use the ignore function.

[Paul071978]

Thanks Ronje very informative. Maybe it’s because I’m using my mobile I still can’t seem to find it. Not that I need to use at this point in time. I can access the menu via top right hand corner of my screen but it doesn’t have settings. Closest I can find is profile and it’s not in there

[tunaticer]

Exactly the reason why Ronje1 is on my ignore list.

[Ronje1]

Ok seems like this post was just an excuse to air the pms

No Steve. It wasn't. I didn't air the un-identified contents until the 11th post and that was simply to demonstrate the Jekyll and Hyde mentality of the sender. One of the trolls. Also to show that these things were not simply about a difference of opinion or minor things as some were suggesting.

I'm not thin-skinned nor dislike debate or feedback. Happy to indulge in that.

Simply taking some action in an effort to slow these guys down a bit.

Notice how quickly the trolls have gone quiet?

They're now happy to sit back and listen to any bunfight that might develop.

I've had my say and am happy to leave it at that.

[stevej]

im not sure who the trolls are and dont care tbh

no ones a saint in response to your interactions here from whats been posted

in the end its not your site and if the owner is happy or indifferent to the content and your gaining no value just move on to another or start your own, save yourself the grief.

[Lovey80]

There’s been way too much of this childish BS lately. It’s like watching a bunch of hormonal teenage girls bitch and moan. Stick the boating and fishing or bugger off somewhere else.

[bluefin59]

Ok seems like this post was just an excuse to air the pms

No Steve. It wasn't. I didn't air the un-identified contents until the 11th post and that was simply to demonstrate the Jekyll and Hyde mentality of the sender. One of the trolls. Also to show that these things were not simply about a difference of opinion or minor things as some were suggesting.

I'm not thin-skinned nor dislike debate or feedback. Happy to indulge in that.

Simply taking some action in an effort to slow these guys down a bit.

Notice how quickly the trolls have gone quiet?

They're now happy to sit back and listen to any bunfight that might develop.

I've had my say and am happy to leave it at that.

What do you send to him initially and after to stir the pot in the first place , seems to me your the problem and don’t send me any of your crap . Just stop it , you blokes claiming to be victims are actually the problem .

[Ducksnutz]

Starting to see why a few of the genuine contributors of this forum have left lately. Once again the minority hold power.....Such a bloody shame to open this page to see crap like this...FMD, ignore option? It’s a forum on fishing and boating? Who even thinks about starting a thread like this? I’m out.

[frank100]

Holy Crap Batman, if I wanted to be ignored I would just stay home ! Just get on with the subject at hand and ignore or should I say disregard the rest. Name calling just makes things worse.
Frank

[stevej]

Holy Crap Batman, if I wanted to be ignored I would just stay home ! Just get on with the subject at hand and ignore or should I say disregard the rest. Name calling just makes things worse.
Frank


nimrod frank ?
how’s the tinnie you converted ?

[frank100]

stevej, Ke ? methinks you have the wrong Frank.
Frank

[stevej]

stevej, Ke ? methinks you have the wrong Frank.
Frank

seems I have sorry bout that

[shakey55]

FFS if you get messages on your phone, tablet or computer from businesses or someone you are no interested in, do you go as far as opening them and reading them. No, you just delete. Do the same here and do not read the content that gets you upset or annoys you. Just delete, take no notice of the content. Eventually the sender will get sick and tired of sending as he no longer gets a bite.

If you do not like the persons on-line comments hit he ignore switch. If the poster suddenly becomes personal in the open forum (obviously you will not see it), I would hope that some other member had the decency to report him/her and or the mod’s would pick it up and actually do something about it.

Now let’s all shake hands, have a drink and get back to what we are here for.

Just my opinion and beliefs


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[Volvo]

Tis my thoughts that my Noggin holds the ignore feature rather than a need fer a button wouldnt that be more feasable??.

[CT]

Notice how quickly the trolls have gone quiet?
.

Not sure if I'm on the list but if I am, sorry for the wait getting back to you. It was a weekend so I went fishing!

I got zero feedback from you about targeting barra this weekend so I gave it a miss and went to the islands instead. Still happy to give your system a shot if your willing to put a proper recommendation on the line.

[shortthenlong]

It has been bought to my attention that some may think I'm the source of the above PMs. For those playing at home I don't do PM. Yes Ronnie is full of pseudo science nonsense and no he doesn't like to be questioned but that doesn't mean I'm going to bother to send him a PM. That is what the discussion part of the board is supposed to be about.

Personally I think this dumpster fire of a thread should be deleted.

Matt

[Paul071978]

Who are the trolls?

[stevej]

anyone who disagrees or has an alternate view.

[Ronje1]

I'm not trying to stir up the trolls or others with this post.

Some of the comments above are made though without knowledge of many of the facts but there's some good advice included above as well.

However, I did all of those things including the ignore button for 12 months. Just got worse and worse with more of the trolls joining in.

Attached is a copy of what happened in the lead-up to the posting of that thread about the ignore function and the eventual public bunfight. (read from the top down time-wise).

I tried to avoid having that happen by going about things in the right way as recommended to admin without success.

In the end, I simply responded with what I've been receiving for 12 months and which was apparently acceptable to admin (by the eventual answer).

Most of the comments and advice that I put up on here were in fact moderator Phill's.

The attached will show why I eventually took matters into my own hands and started to "pull these guys on".

To put it very simply, I took them on because admin didn't.

Phill's words are included in the attachment. I suggested that he put those words up for members to see.

Make of it what you will.

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[NAGG]

How many trolls are really on this site ?

I wouldn't call anyone who actively participates on this web site as a troll . Sometimes there are people that you just don't see eye to eye with for a raft of reasons ....... & yes some people can be real dickheads .
Every now & then a grenade gets thrown into the mix ..... that's the nature of forums - personally the last thing I want to see is a mutual admiration site ...... they become pretty boring .
Just remember any time you put something up ....... you are in the game (so to speak) - If you cant handle it ....... best to move on because one thing will stand very true - If you play the victim card , you will earn the ire of those on a site .

That's my thoughts on it

Chris

[bluefin59]

This is not acceptable behaviour especially after I asked you not to send me any of your rubbish ,your continuing rants are dead set not helpful and not what a majority of ausfish members come here for .
Over the years we have all had disagreements as to what has been posted and had some truely fiery discussions but NEVER and I will say it again NEVER seen the unrelenting bull dust that the likes have you have put up with threats and meaningless messages that only aggravate the situation , the Moderators on this site have allowed open discussion ever since I first started and have handed out warnings a number of times WHEN NEEDED but obviously you being a moron wouldn’t understand that . You can’t even do the simple things right , like push the ignore button or not send PMs .
The only PMs I have recieved over the years have been from people on here that I would consider decent REAL fishermen and boating people who have a GENUINE love of fishing and boating, your sending threats to people you don’t know is appalling and at least I don’t hide behind any fake profile I have put myself out their and shown what’s possible as far as fishing and boating goes . Pull your head in and stop stirring the pot by sending people this sort of shit . Matt XX [emoji8] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210208/fb928fe570b86ad934571fa0ac5d0115.jpg

[Noelm]

Yep agree 100% (almost) we have all had "fights" over the years, politics, boats, outboards, 2 strokes, 4 strokes, all sorts of stuff, argue/debate whatever you call it, but just don't get too personal, don't take offence, just move on from the topic if it gets too hot for you, simple.
edit...this was in response to Nagg, but another post got caught between them.

[Ronje1]

I call anybody who sets out with the intention to disrupt or disturb a conversation/s a troll. The real term for their activity is harassment. There's a forum condition about no harassment.

They're on here hiding in plain sight. A couple of them above. Invariably they suddenly become victims when challenged.

Phill failed to challenge them so I did.

[Dezzer]

Over the years we have all had disagreements as to what has been posted and had some truely fiery discussions but NEVER and I will say it again NEVER seen the unrelenting bull dust that the likes have you have put up with threats and meaningless. Pull your head in and stop stirring the pot by sending people this sort of shit . Matt XX [emoji8] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210208/fb928fe570b86ad934571fa0ac5d0115.jpg

[emoji23]
Weren't around for or can't remember Kerry / Satnav then?
Pretty much identical agenda.
I actually was convinced for a while that it was one and the same.
I find it all quite amusing but there's probably a medical diagnosis for such a disorder.
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[Ronje1]

Some more facts that took place behind the scenes that members might like to consider.

Its no good complaining about a problem unless you have a solution to offer.

re: Forum 1St Feb

Thanks, Phill.

Paucity of time is a universal problem, I guess.

Like any illness, treating a symptom does not address the underlying chronic problem.

In this case, the underlying chronic problem is one of harassment by a small group of these guys and its not confined to any particular thread.

Sure, the barramundi thread has revealed a lot of interest from members (over 40,000 views in 12 months). Run its course as a thread? Probably.

But simply locking it as a way to respond to another problem doesn't solve anything at all. Address that underlying problem or it will simply break out again. Guarantee that.

There is widespread underlying member unhappiness about the activities of these guys.

"If I am alerted to an issue, it should be copied and pasted and make it known what page of what thread, so I can head directly to it"

That does not seem to sit well with this:

"I also do not read every thread, even the ones I get a pm or email about".

Harassment is not a one-off event. It's a pattern of activity undertaken with the intention to disrupt or disturb. Therefore it can be a time consumer to look into especially if conducted by several people with common

purpose.

Do you see value in this suggestion:

. draw a line under historical instances; and

. put up a short general post inviting members to remind themselves of the forum rules regarding harassment.

I'm happy to to keep an eye on the activities of these "usual suspects" and (should they continue) catalogue and send it to you to look at without saying anything to anybody. The activities of this group are a chronic problem.

It would simply be helping you behind the scenes to keep things running as smoothly as possible.

Phill, in my working life one of my tasks was to investigate allegations of harassment and prosecute where proved.

I know the differences between a bit of banter, a dummy-spit, a hissy-fit and genuine harassment.

What do you reckon?



And what did he reckon? Nothing, zip, no response, no answer.

You know the rest.

Now think about where the real catalyst of the bunfight might be found.

[Fed]

Just leave Ronje, nobody wants you here.

[stevej]

[emoji23]
Weren't around for or can't remember Kerry / Satnav then?
Pretty much identical agenda.
I actually was convinced for a while that it was one and the same.
I find it all quite amusing but there's probably a medical diagnosis for such a disorder.
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too many words for Kerry

[Volvo]

Speaking for myself here so hopefully no one takes it personal or at heart but will try and put calm the waters a tad if i can with the help of others :-?..
From the day i/we was /were born we start dying .fact of life , now over the seventies it is more of a realisation than prior , retired and missing the male company that found whilst in the workforce with
something to yakk about be it Fishing , Kids , Grandkids or what or how much one may need to retire i find some solace in my Forum sites be it Fishing , Tomato growing , Caravanning , or knife sharpening and thank each day
i wake up standing , being able to Pee and shyte without the need for assistance , Great aint it;D???.
Watched My Dad have that taken away from him and the time he spent in a Nursing home without the freedom of the above.
So much to be thankfull for , can still wake up during the night with a hard on though wet dreams may be a thing of the past lol and tap the better halfe on the shoulder to be told to wake up to myself ya plurry idjutt::)!!.
Look forward to each day the Grandkids and Kids drop by and feel i am Blessed in this arena and look forward to another day of waking up under the same circumstances.
So the Question arising from this post is anything worth the stress of an argument , A Blood Pressure Rise which may take my hopes away and no more Fishing waiting for those special hugs from the grandchildren
or my routeinely visit onboard here halfe a dozen times or so each day when im not out Fishing.
Think quite a few of us older members are in the same Boat and desire the same of their lives, and when one thinks about it , it is so easy to ignore and adopt the "Live and Let Live" adage help keep the peace and at the same time share experiences and a bit of humour
Make visiting the site a tad more comfy.
Sometimes hear the Grandkids say he or she said this or that and feel we are at our age above this are we not.
Believe we all hop onboard for the same reasons stated above and to keep it a viable option lets all build a Bridge and get over it and put it in the past ..
Okay now yous can tell me ta feck orrff if yous wish;D...

[bluefin59]

[emoji23]
Weren't around for or can't remember Kerry / Satnav then?
Pretty much identical agenda.
I actually was convinced for a while that it was one and the same.
I find it all quite amusing but there's probably a medical diagnosis for such a disorder.
[emoji3][emoji3]

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Yep I remember Kerry or Satnav and his discussions ,he did the same thing on fishnet and got the shunt . Matt

[Noelm]

Fishnet was a whole different kettle of fish, some serious personal shit went on there, and it got way out of hand, right down to legal action.

[chris69]

Look what this man has done it's alright for him to send personal messages and harass members but not alright for member to bite back I don't understand why Steve and Phil have let him get away with it for so long,a forum is not a forum if its one sided.

[Noelm]

Because "usually" things even out and the back stabbing just eases up, then goes away, banning people is not always the best option long term.

[chris69]

Because "usually" things even out and the back stabbing just eases up, then goes away, banning people is not always the best option long term.

Have you seen his messages to forum members he's done this on another forum and he's doing it here and some think it's ok well its a very sad day for
Ausfish then.

[Noelm]

I don't think anyone believes it's OK, certainly not me, I just think most times these things just blow over, this time it's a bit testing I must admit, I am happy to just sit in the side lines until "something" clears the air.

[bluefin59]

I don't think anyone believes it's OK, certainly not me, I just think most times these things just blow over, this time it's a bit testing I must admit, I am happy to just sit in the side lines until "something" clears the air.

Oh the air is going to be cleared , you can be rest assured [emoji23]

[chris69]

Matt i could not believe the message he sent you ,for others to think this is ok is not right i cant believe that its been aloud to happen and for him to start a thread to tell everyone about it just rubs it in our faces this should have come from Lucky Phil or Steve at least not from the man that has been booted from another forum for the exact same thing.

[bluefin59]

Matt i could not believe the message he sent you ,for others to think this is ok is not right i cant believe that its been aloud to happen and for him to start a thread to tell everyone about it just rubs it in our faces this should have come from Lucky Phil or Steve at least not from the man that has been booted from another forum for the exact same thing.

It’s all good mate it will be over soon . Matt

[tunaticer]

He left AA about two weeks before he reinvented himself here....posted the same data and stirred the same shit paddle as before.
As soon as I recognised his crap I hit the ignore button.
Far easier to avoid getting agitated by his tripe than going through it.

Seems there is a cycle for these guys, going from site to site trying to be a saviour by supplying lots of data and getting their teeth kicked in at the end of each stint.

You think we have it bad here....you should have seen TalkCity's fishing and hunting forums in the early 90's...live chat with about 1000 ppl online in the forums at any second of that day....maybe 5% of those guys were similar to this dropkick. I did a short stint there as a moderator before it was commercialised and died a rather rapid death.

[chris69]

He left AA about two weeks before he reinvented himself here....posted the same data and stirred the same shit paddle as before.
As soon as I recognised his crap I hit the ignore button.
Far easier to avoid getting agitated by his tripe than going through it.

Seems there is a cycle for these guys, going from site to site trying to be a saviour by supplying lots of data and getting their teeth kicked in at the end of each stint.

You think we have it bad here....you should have seen TalkCity's fishing and hunting forums in the early 90's...live chat with about 1000 ppl online in the forums at any second of that day....maybe 5% of those guys were similar to this dropkick. I did a short stint there as a moderator before it was commercialised and died a rather rapid death.

Well hes done a good job with ausfish and nothing has been done, bring back Nugget as a moderater he would have booted him first night.

[Ronje1]

Its a pretty simple story.

BlueFin kept the niggle up until he was eventually challenged.

The tribe doing a war dance around the teepee is not helping him or anybody else.

There's been some pretty good level-headed advice given out (above posts) with a lot relating to ignoring what u don't like.

This thread is called "use of the ignore function" which has the primary purpose of allowing users to filter out people who they don't want to hear from.

Use it.

If he wants to leave, then leave. If he wants to stay, then I'm happy to draw a line under it.

[bluefin59]

I think it’s best you follow the advice you’ve been given . Matt

[Funchy]

I'm a peace loving person and I've refrained from saying anything (I agree with Noelm and Volvo on the approach) however I have seen Ronje's work previously on other sites and read most of the stuff he has posted here and I feel I have to add my 2 cents.

Ronje, I think you are best just deleting your account and staying off forums that require interaction. Maybe start a facebook page where you are the moderator and you can boot members at will that you don't like? You have a history of ruffling feathers and creating angst. You have a history of being either kicked off forums or leaving them. This surely speaks more to the problem being you and your inability to "let things slide and not feed the trolls".

or not.....

I'll go get the popcorn and await my PM from you just as I have on the other site.

P.S Gunna is one of the best humans I have had the pleasure to meet and if you knew him and his story you would no doubt not see the need to continue pursuing him which you are carrying on here on Ausfish after not being successful on AA

[chris69]

I'm a peace loving person and I've refrained from saying anything (I agree with Noelm and Volvo on the approach) however I have seen Ronje's work previously on other sites and read most of the stuff he has posted here and I feel I have to add my 2 cents.

Ronje, I think you are best just deleting your account and staying off forums that require interaction. Maybe start a facebook page where you are the moderator and you can boot members at will that you don't like? You have a history of ruffling feathers and creating angst. You have a history of being either kicked off forums or leaving them. This surely speaks more to the problem being you and your inability to "let things slide and not feed the trolls".

or not.....

I'll go get the popcorn and await my PM from you just as I have on the other site.

P.S Gunna is one of the best humans I have had the pleasure to meet and if you knew him and his story you would no doubt not see the need to continue pursuing him which you are carrying on here on Ausfish after not being successful on AA

That says it all when a alcoholic can disrupt the forum and just keep on giving it looks like the power to be don't care what he does ,going by your post Gunna has been copping it too.

[Mopheus]

Phill failed to challenge them so I did.

You are not the hero you think you are. This thread and your attitude are toxic.

[Ronje1]

10th Feb
If he wants to stay, then I'm happy to draw a line under it.

There are obviously some people on here who don't want to draw a line under historical differences.

On 10th Feb, Chris 69 posted: That says it all when a alcoholic can disrupt the forum

A bridge too far, Chris.

So, why did you say that that I'm an "alcoholic", please?

Pretty defamatory thing to say if you can't support the allegation, Chris.

You've got an invitation and an opportunity to withdraw the comment and apologise ( or provide evidence to support the allegation).

Think carefully.

[CT]

Geez, I love a good shitpost but isn't getting on the piss the one thing all of us actually do have in common?

[Ronje1]

This is between this guy with the loose mouth (Chris 69) who made the allegation and me.

[chris69]

This is between this guy with the loose mouth (Chris 69) who made the allegation and me.
Sorry my fail theres AA then theres AA alcohlic anonimous i got the 2 mixed up.

[Ronje1]

Not good enough Chris.

Withdraw the post unconditionally with a simple apology.

[chris69]

Not good enough Chris.

Withdraw the post unconditionally with a simple apology.
Good enough for me after your personal message to me Ron it was a simple mistake AA means one thing to me as you cant mention the other site here that you were booted off of.

[Lucky_Phill]

Jeez people.

OK, here's the deal.

If you can't provide positive or constructive comment on a thread, then don't.

Everyone on here is entitled to an opinion and opinions cannot be wrong, they are just different.

Personal attacks are not welcome and will be dealt with on their merit taking all comments of all parties into account.

On another note, a Private Message to someone, is that " private ". meaning that message is between to two or more parties involved and NOT to be made public.

This thread has NOTHING to do with " General Fishing Chat " and will be moved to the correct forum location.

It will also be locked, as it's going no where.

How about some " fishing " chat people. ?

LP