tesla cyber truck

[catshark]

how good is the new cyber truck lads , outruns a porche, outpulls a ford f150, beautifully designed , cheaper to run than a diesel or petrol... elon musk is a champion , naming the company after mr tesla.... i was never a elecky decky but im happy to order one tommorow if i could, now the design was at first like WTF, what is this "back to the future" but after seeing three videos on it , i know i want one.
who knows what this guy is going to bring out next? ' 'cyber boat ... tesla 250kw outboard etc

Ok fire away at will....did i mention how beautiful this beast looks :o Santa you betta deliver mate.

[TheRealPoMo]

What I don't get is the styling. Trying to take sales from f truck or RAM buyers with DeLorean looks would not do it I would think. Electric traction will win every time which is why all locomotives are electric (even the diesel ones). Why play a gambit on the styling then?

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[catshark]

i just saw the tesla pickup concept, much more similar styleling to the near current muscle trucks

[chris69]

I think he's thinking ahead when he's on Mars, that looks real ugly on earth but would look the part on another planet.

[NAGG]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfqJV7vwgAw ;D

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120420

It's not my cup of tea but electric is the future so....

Matt

[catshark]

yeah its different, with the three engine option , that gives you 800 HP and 1000 NM of torque. adaptive air suspension and so on. i dont think we will see these in australia any time soon but this might give a fire cracker to other automakers to start fast tracking electric vehicles.

[catshark]

the three stages of cyber truck.
i hate it.
its not to bad
shut up and take my money... ha ha

any one else starting to come around .

[TheRealPoMo]

No, but over 250000 truck totin' good old boys have apparently....I would have said he would sell less than a dozen given the market demographic.
A reminder never to take any notice of what I say.

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[Dirtyfuzz]

Whoever designed it is a massive Halo fan!


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[scottar]

Be interesting to see what happens to the range when you do tow. The current tesla's roughly gets halved. Not much chop for a 1770 run.

[catshark]

yeah for the long haul diesel will still be hard to beat, in this big country of ours, and as i believe that hot weather can lesson the charge as well combined with towing would be suited close to base.

what i find interesting on this is forget the design and looks and so on but the direction of where this is going, the brand name itself , the new demographic its aimed at , this will start a massive push for the electric market competitors to deliver, hopefully cheaper alternatives.

[Lovey80]

I don’t think this truck is viable for anything close to what you could tow with this thing. Electric motors x 3? Really? So what’s the fording depth? Or will that kill it? What’s the max tow capacity? When the gen 10 version of this truck can tow a 6 ton boat from Brisbane to 1770 on a single charge I’m interested. Until then it’s another Elon Musk hype machine that won’t deliver a profit...... again.

[Darren J]

Chris,
Check out the specs on the Tesla page for the 3 motor AWD. 14000lb tow capacity. 0-100 in 2.9. 500 mile range. Halve that and you close to 1770 one way.

Even if you halved those performance specs - still pretty impressive.

I like my diesel, but this sort of project is probably accelerating the electric market to a place most of us need for it to be realistic. I don’t see myself signing up for the $150 “get in line deposit”. But I think I read 250,000 people have. I won’t be one of them anytime soon, but I can sense at some point, now appearing sooner than I thought, this will be a real option.

And the prices seem pretty fair relative to what a 200 series cruisers, particularly for newer tech in its infancy.

I do some work for some developers, charging stations are a normal add in to any quality unit development these day’s.

[scottar]

So how many charging stations you rekon they will install at 1770 for a peak traffic weekend or will it be get in line for everyone to take an hours charge to get home. Sounds like fun. Long way before this is practical in any way in this country. Fuel cell vehicles for sure but for full electric the logistics for regional areas just make it too hard.

[Dirtyfuzz]

Had a look through a Tesla model 3 out of curiosity more than anything and I would be waiting till tesla improves quality assurance before dropping any cash on any of their products!


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[Darren J]

So how many charging stations you rekon they will install at 1770 for a peak traffic weekend or will it be get in line for everyone to take an hours charge.
None anytime soon!. I don’t disagree, as I said electric is not on my horizon. But not that long ago a one way trip to 1770 was not realistic, let alone towing a big boat. You would have to agree, it appears to be getting closer.



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[scottar]

Might be a while yet https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7755753/amp/Chaos-California-Tesla-drivers-stranded-hours-half-mile-long-line-charge.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top&__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR1pviABUWRlEbAof6KzpqzyDtalW9du_LDOd48qf uQz9xzhbkP4W7gHids

[tunaticer]

so 6 tonne towing capacity.....full of shit.
No possible way that could be legal in Australia, it would not have near enough kerb weight or braking capacity.
Elon Musk blowing his gob off again.

[catshark]

i saw a tesla on the motorway the other day, having the big ipad screen as the cars onboard info system, how does that not configure your using a mobile while driving?

was just reading a article, basically the automotive industry or parts of it are wanting a tectonic shift towards the electric market, a consequence of this is they are predicting mass job losses .

[catshark]

so 6 tonne towing capacity.....full of shit.
No possible way that could be legal in Australia, it would not have near enough kerb weight or braking capacity.
Elon Musk blowing his gob off again.
yeah not to sure what the science is with electric/torque figures , they seem higher than a standard fuel comparison, im thinking they will cap it 4.5 ton if and even this cyber truck can pull more weight. its as big as a dodge ram 1500 , but unsure what they can pull.

[Lovey80]

so 6 tonne towing capacity.....full of shit.
No possible way that could be legal in Australia, it would not have near enough kerb weight or braking capacity.
Elon Musk blowing his gob off again.

kerb weight has nothing to do with it. In fact as soon as kerb weight goes up the tow capacity goes down in most circumstances.

The 2020 Dodge Ram 1500 can tow up to 5.8t Braked. Considering this thing has 3 electric motors and more than twice the torque of the dodge it will tow 6t no problem while towing the Dodge backwards.

How far is the real issue.

[tunaticer]

kerb weight has nothing to do with it. In fact as soon as kerb weight goes up the tow capacity goes down in most circumstances.

The 2020 Dodge Ram 1500 can tow up to 5.8t Braked. Considering this thing has 3 electric motors and more than twice the torque of the dodge it will tow 6t no problem while towing the Dodge backwards.

How far is the real issue.

Bullshit, kerb weight is required for traction esp under braking.
The heavier the trailer load the heavier the tow car needs to be otherwise we would all have Hyundai I30's with bigger motor upgrades.

[Lovey80]

Bullshit, kerb weight is required for traction esp under braking.
The heavier the trailer load the heavier the tow car needs to be otherwise we would all have Hyundai I30's with bigger motor upgrades.

absolutely false.

so how much extra weight does the prime mover on say a ABB Quad combination need to be over a B double combination?

if what you are saying is correct then adding weight to the tray of a Ute would help the braking not diminish it?

think about the trailer weight ratios between say a 200 series cruiser and the towing vehicle mass and the ratios between the prime mover weight and an ABB combination.

you’ll quickly realise it has zero to do with vehicle weight once the “unbraked” limit is reached. It’s all about ensuring the weight per axle is safe and the number of wheels that have brakes is sufficient for the load.

[TheRealPoMo]

What's legal and what's possible are frequently at odds.

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[stevej]

And how many people who tow things need to tow 6 tonne to 1770
Stuff all
How many current diesel 4x4s will do the same
Stuff all


It’s shaped like it is because it’s folded from a single sheet of stainless for cost effectiveness
Same as the flat screens and windows as they are cheaper to make

All he’s doing is generating hype interest which will push other manufacturers to have a go

[Lovey80]

I highly doubt this truck will get into production looking or designed anything like the prototype.

can you really run around with panels that don’t crumple like a modern car? Looks more like he’s designed it for the next military contract...... you’d need a whole lot more battery capacity.

[catshark]

I highly doubt this truck will get into production looking or designed anything like the prototype.

can you really run around with panels that don’t crumple like a modern car? Looks more like he’s designed it for the next military contract...... you’d need a whole lot more battery capacity.
yep spot on ancap safety rating will be a issue for sure considering the acceleration on these things are akin to a roller coaster take off.

[scottar]

And how many people who tow things need to tow 6 tonne to 1770
Stuff all
How many current diesel 4x4s will do the same
Stuff all


It’s shaped like it is because it’s folded from a single sheet of stainless for cost effectiveness
Same as the flat screens and windows as they are cheaper to make

All he’s doing is generating hype interest which will push other manufacturers to have a go

Not if they are clever.

The windows will need to be cheap by the looks.

1770 is just an example. There are countless hundreds (probably thousands) of out of the way destinations that are frequented by people with very large trailer boats - the type that require at least a modified Landcruiser or better to tow, in pretty reasonable numbers right around the country. Not to mention the grey nomads. They on average, sell about 1000, 200 series Landcruisers every month - most tow something - plenty spend their entire time with a van on the back. These are also the sort of people that could in reality probably afford a new Tesla (they will not be cheap if they ever get here) and would buy one but only if the thing will do what they need it to and isn't going to cause major inconvenience by way of extended "refuelling" times or simply the lack of places to refuel. Then there is the issue of extended out of the way travel and mechanical support should a break down occur in the middle of nowhere - good luck with that. In a lot of places the RAC reps can't even flatbed a 200 Landcruiser due to weight. These things will be a novelty at best or at worst the next gen Toorak tractor giving rage fuel soccer mums near silent naught to a hundred in 2.8 second capability in the estrogen fuelled demolition derby otherwise known as "school drop off or pick up" - what could go wrong. EV's have their place. Towing things in a country the size of Australia just isn't it with the current tech.

[NAGG]

I highly doubt this truck will get into production looking or designed anything like the prototype.

can you really run around with panels that don’t crumple like a modern car? Looks more like he’s designed it for the next military contract...... you’d need a whole lot more battery capacity.

Yep spot on ……. this is just a concept car (with a quaddy)

I have no doubt he'll build something though ….. regardless of how detached from reality his concept is.

Chris

[stevej]

I don’t see where this or any 4x4 has been marketed at the fringes of towing needs

What your talking about is a micro fraction of Intended uses
And tbh most boaties have no clue to the weight of their boat or the capacities of the vehicle towing it

Light trucks will always be there diesel or in the future what ever else they come up with

I can’t stand the bloke especially after the cave diving comments

But he’s doing things people said he wouldn’t be able too
And anyone introducing new tech should be applauded no matter how whacky

Many things we take for granted today come from people who have taken risks professionally financially

Musk can go broke like any other company

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120502

Coming to Australia!!!!!

[Dirtyfuzz]

Love a good toota g up! Is amazing how many people take the satire page as a factual news site


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