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Gon Fishun
12-11-2015, 10:36 PM
Do other user's have trouble loading web pages on Ausfish or is only me? I have included some pics for admin to have a look at, but 6 times out of 10 the pages don't fully load when logging on. When clicking on a subject it won't open fully. I have to constantly refresh pages to make them load. I am using a desk top computer, window 7. All other web sites are running fine. I might add, the Ausfish web page has been clunky for years.
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Ausfish
13-11-2015, 02:48 AM
Do other user's have trouble loading web pages on Ausfish or is only me? I have included some pics for admin to have a look at, but 6 times out of 10 the pages don't fully load when logging on. When clicking on a subject it won't open fully. I have to constantly refresh pages to make them load. I am using a desk top computer, window 7. All other web sites are running fine. I might add, the Ausfish web page has been clunky for years.
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Not seeing any issues from here. Load time is around 2 seconds, and I am in Vietnam with crap internet.
I assume you are using Vocus as your ISP.
Have you tried accessing pages through any other ISP?
There was a problem with Bigpond and Cloudflare not long ago. Maybe Vocus has similar issues, but I don't know, will look further into it.
Have you spoken to your ISP about it to see if they know why they can not deliver the site?
Can you show me a traceroute to maybe see where the problem is?
Go here http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=trace&host=www.ausfish.com.au
It should look a bit like this
1
15
0
0
XXX.XXX.XX.XXX
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2
0
0
0
XXX.XXX.XX.XXX
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3
0
0
0
64.124.196.225
xe-4-2-0.er2.dfw2.us.above.net
4
24
24
24
62.115.55.201
dls-b21-link.telia.net
5
0
0
0
62.115.44.2
cloudflare-ic-306332-dls-bb1.c.telia.net
6
1
1
1
104.28.11.124
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Crunchy
13-11-2015, 06:19 AM
Same here but only using chrome and just started a while ago, not the service provider because if shut down chrome and open IE pages load, you using chrome gon fishing?
I think it's a feud between Chrome (Google) & Flash (Adobe) & Java (Oracle) causing it.
Anyone getting odd black rectangles appearing in Chrome or bits of the top of a website page plastered further down the page?
How it should look plus with black boxes and plastered artefacts.
Gon Fishun
13-11-2015, 11:44 AM
Same here but only using chrome and just started a while ago, not the service provider because if shut down chrome and open IE pages load, you using chrome gon fishing?
Yep, using Google Chrome and the service provider is iprimus.com.au
Gon Fishun
13-11-2015, 11:50 AM
Not seeing any issues from here. Load time is around 2 seconds, and I am in Vietnam with crap internet.
I assume you are using Vocus as your ISP.
Have you tried accessing pages through any other ISP?
There was a problem with Bigpond and Cloudflare not long ago. Maybe Vocus has similar issues, but I don't know, will look further into it.
Have you spoken to your ISP about it to see if they know why they can not deliver the site?
Can you show me a traceroute to maybe see where the problem is?
Go here http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=trace&host=www.ausfish.com.au
It should look a bit like this
1
15
0
0
XXX.XXX.XX.XXX
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2
0
0
0
XXX.XXX.XX.XXX
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3
0
0
0
64.124.196.225
xe-4-2-0.er2.dfw2.us.above.net
4
24
24
24
62.115.55.201
dls-b21-link.telia.net
5
0
0
0
62.115.44.2
cloudflare-ic-306332-dls-bb1.c.telia.net
6
1
1
1
104.28.11.124
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Is this what you mean Steve? Iprimus is my service provider.
202.136.40.35 is from Australia (AU) in region Oceana
Input: www.iprimus.com.au
canonical name: www.primus.com.au
aliases:
www.iprimus.com.au
Registered Domain: primus.com.au
TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 202.136.40.35 [www.primus.com.au]
Hop
(ms)
(ms)
(ms)
IP Address
Host name
1
0
0
0
206.123.64.217
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2
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
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3
33
33
33
4.69.144.80
ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
4
33
32
33
4.69.144.80
ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
5
33
33
34
134.159.61.17
i-0-0-0-14-peer.tlot02.pr.telstraglobal.net
6
32
31
31
202.84.253.17
i-0-4-0-9.tlot-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net
7
207
206
206
202.84.249.42
i-0-1-0-32.sydo-core03.bx.telstraglobal.net
8
207
206
208
203.50.13.97
bundle-ether3.oxf-gw11.sydney.telstra.net
9
207
206
207
203.50.6.92
bundle-ether1.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net
10
222
223
222
203.50.11.125
bundle-ether8.exi-core10.melbourne.telstra.net
11
220
220
220
203.50.11.112
bundle-ether1.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net
12
223
221
222
139.130.198.250
dod1518537.lnk.telstra.net
13
224
224
224
123.2.3.178
be1-v427.bsr02.pmelnxd.vic.m2core.net.au
14
223
223
224
122.151.0.38
38.0.151.122.sta.dodo.net.au
15
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
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16
Timed out
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Timed out
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Gon Fishun
13-11-2015, 11:52 AM
I think it's a feud between Chrome (Google) & Flash (Adobe) & Java (Oracle) causing it.
Anyone getting odd black rectangles appearing in Chrome or bits of the top of a website page plastered further down the page?
Nope. Not getting any of that.
Ausfish
13-11-2015, 12:40 PM
Is this what you mean Steve? Iprimus is my service provider.
202.136.40.35 is from Australia (AU) in region Oceana
Input: www.iprimus.com.au (http://www.iprimus.com.au)
canonical name: www.primus.com.au (http://www.primus.com.au)
aliases:
www.iprimus.com.au
Registered Domain: primus.com.au
TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 202.136.40.35 [www.primus.com.au] (http://www.primus.com.au])
Hop
(ms)
(ms)
(ms)
IP Address
Host name
1
0
0
0
206.123.64.217
-
2
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
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3
33
33
33
4.69.144.80
ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
4
33
32
33
4.69.144.80
ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
5
33
33
34
134.159.61.17
i-0-0-0-14-peer.tlot02.pr.telstraglobal.net
6
32
31
31
202.84.253.17
i-0-4-0-9.tlot-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net
7
207
206
206
202.84.249.42
i-0-1-0-32.sydo-core03.bx.telstraglobal.net
8
207
206
208
203.50.13.97
bundle-ether3.oxf-gw11.sydney.telstra.net
9
207
206
207
203.50.6.92
bundle-ether1.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net
10
222
223
222
203.50.11.125
bundle-ether8.exi-core10.melbourne.telstra.net
11
220
220
220
203.50.11.112
bundle-ether1.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net
12
223
221
222
139.130.198.250
dod1518537.lnk.telstra.net
13
224
224
224
123.2.3.178
be1-v427.bsr02.pmelnxd.vic.m2core.net.au
14
223
223
224
122.151.0.38
38.0.151.122.sta.dodo.net.au
15
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
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16
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I Primus are using Vocus by the looks of it, that is what it is showing when I trace your IP address.
Hop
(ms)
(ms)
(ms)
IP Address
Host name
1
0
0
0
206.123.64.217
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2
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
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3
2
1
2
4.68.111.102
cogent-level3-6x10g.dallas1.level3.net
4
2
2
2
154.54.7.45
be2031.ccr21.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com
5
12
12
12
154.54.3.134
be2432.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com
6
48
48
47
154.54.30.53
be2132.ccr21.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com
7
48
48
48
154.54.28.34
be2164.ccr21.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com
8
48
48
47
154.54.1.162
be2063.rcr21.b001848-1.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com
9
63
63
63
38.122.92.2
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10
218
218
219
114.31.199.242
bundle-101.cor01.sjc01.ca.vocus.net
11
204
204
205
114.31.199.59
bundle-100.cor02.sjc01.ca.vocus.net
12
218
218
220
114.31.199.37
ten-0-5-0-0.cor01.syd04.nsw.vocus.net.au
13
219
219
220
114.31.192.47
bundle-101.bdr04.syd03.nsw.vocus.net.au
14
219
218
219
175.45.124.197
asn13335.cust.bdr04.syd03.vocus.net.au
15
203
203
202
108.162.XXX.XXX
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Trace complete
At a quick look at that traceroute posted, you need to contact your ISP and have a chat to them. You are connected to them and getting time outs doing a traceroute to them. Does not seem right.
See what they are finding. As suggested above, also try another browser and see if you are getting the same result. If so then definitely contact your ISP.
Can you do a trace on ausfish.com.au and post up what you are getting This link http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=trace&host=www.ausfish.com.au
This is what I get when I do a traceroute to iprimus.com.au
1
0
0
0
206.123.64.217
-
2
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
-
3
36
33
33
4.69.144.80
ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
4
34
33
33
4.69.144.80
ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
5
33
33
33
134.159.61.17
i-0-0-0-14-peer.tlot02.pr.telstraglobal.net
6
34
31
31
202.84.253.17
i-0-4-0-9.tlot-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net
7
206
207
207
202.84.249.42
i-0-1-0-32.sydo-core03.bx.telstraglobal.net
8
207
208
206
203.50.13.97
bundle-ether3.oxf-gw11.sydney.telstra.net
9
208
207
207
203.50.6.92
bundle-ether1.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net
10
223
223
223
203.50.11.125
bundle-ether8.exi-core10.melbourne.telstra.net
11
220
220
220
203.50.11.112
bundle-ether1.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net
12
221
221
221
139.130.198.250
dod1518537.lnk.telstra.net
13
224
224
224
123.2.3.178
be1-v427.bsr02.pmelnxd.vic.m2core.net.au
14
224
224
224
122.151.0.38
38.0.151.122.sta.dodo.net.au
15
Timed out
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Trace aborted.
Ausfish
13-11-2015, 12:54 PM
Here is a link to Iprimus help on the matter http://www.iprimus.com.au/support/technical-support/internet-general-home/unable-to-access-specific-websites/
Their Facebook page has a couple of people complaining about load times as well.
Maybe a phone call to them might resolve it.
I will keep checking things at this end, but so far all looks good
Video just taken of what the page is loading like for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVIEeg0gVrY
JulianDeMarchi
13-11-2015, 01:40 PM
Mr Ausfish,
Please don't give advice where you are not an expert. They are not drop-outs. The routers that his path traverses do not have ICMP enabled, thus you get the *. No need to waste ISP support services on this. This is perfectly normal. I work at an ISP and my support staff get annoyed with these questions...
I too have got the page not loading correctly, but a reload fixes it. However I can't track down the cause for this myself. Boys and Girls, just reload the page and be done with it, this will be a hard one to track down.
--julian
Ausfish
13-11-2015, 02:33 PM
Mr Ausfish,
Please don't give advice where you are not an expert. They are not drop-outs. The routers that his path traverses do not have ICMP enabled, thus you get the *. No need to waste ISP support services on this. This is perfectly normal. I work at an ISP and my support staff get annoyed with these questions...
I too have got the page not loading correctly, but a reload fixes it. However I can't track down the cause for this myself. Boys and Girls, just reload the page and be done with it, this will be a hard one to track down.
--julian
As I said, "Maybe a phone call to them might resolve it." Not saying they are dropouts, just saying it looks odd. I cannot see anything here as it all looks OK from here.
I cannot find anything from this end. There is a bit of talk on Facebook and Whirlpool about customers with similar problems of late so maybe a chat to them could shed some light on it. Always worth a try to talk to the ISP and see what they can find. Link to there website provided so can try that as well. Could also be a cloudflare issue as was the case recently with Bigpond.
Your IP address and Gon Fishun's and Chrunchy's are similar so "maybe" that is why you are having the same problem?
Are you using the same ISP?
JulianDeMarchi
13-11-2015, 02:46 PM
As I said, "Maybe a phone call to them might resolve it." Not saying they are dropouts, just saying it looks odd. I cannot see anything here as it all looks OK from here.
I cannot find anything from this end. There is a bit of talk on Facebook and Whirlpool about customers with similar problems of late so maybe a chat to them could shed some light on it. Always worth a try to talk to the ISP and see what they can find. Link to there website provided so can try that as well. Could also be a cloudflare issue as was the case recently with Bigpond.
Your IP address and Gon Fishun's and Chrunchy's are similar so "maybe" that is why you are having the same problem?
Are you using the same ISP?
I control my end all the way to the general internet. As I said, I work at an ISP and am using my own services to get to the internet. You're going down a dud path here(please listen Steve). The Vocus issue is not related. I do not route through Vocus, I peer with cloudfare via WIAX. Calling the ISP is not going to get anywhere except annoy them. I've had the issue occur from Optus and my own internet connections, but it's not a biggie, reload, all fixed.
I can't narrow down the issues myself, it returns a 200 OK when the drama occurred. If I had to take a massive stab in the dark here, I'd point at cloudfares cache. However this is just a guess as I haven't found anything in my small amount of digging when it occurred.
JulianDeMarchi
13-11-2015, 02:48 PM
Are you using the same ISP?
If Crunchy were a customer of mine, I'd be throttling his connection and having all sorts of fun...
Ausfish
13-11-2015, 03:02 PM
I control my end all the way to the general internet. As I said, I work at an ISP and am using my own services to get to the internet. You're going down a dud path here(please listen Steve). The Vocus issue is not related. I do not route through Vocus, I peer with cloudfare via WIAX. Calling the ISP is not going to get anywhere except annoy them. I've had the issue occur from Optus and my own internet connections, but it's not a biggie, reload, all fixed.
I can't narrow down the issues myself, it returns a 200 OK when the drama occurred. If I had to take a massive stab in the dark here, I'd point at cloudfares cache. However this is just a guess as I haven't found anything in my small amount of digging when it occurred.
Thanks for the info. Will check Cloudflare again. There was an issue with them and Bigpond not long ago and I had to turn off Cloudflare for a while, maybe a similar issue, but will also check Cloudflare Cache settings.
Aussie123
13-11-2015, 05:30 PM
I am having the same issue continually.
Some days it seems really bad and others not so bad.
I havnt bothered to try a different browser yet as I just reload the page.
I did presume it was just a Chrome issue but maybe it is not now that others have this problem as well.
Gon Fishun
13-11-2015, 07:13 PM
I have just installed Firefox and modified the about: config. Will take that for cream bun down the frog an toad. Fingers crossed it goes ok.
Ausfish
13-11-2015, 07:56 PM
I have just installed Firefox and modified the about: config. Will take that for cream bun down the frog an toad. Fingers crossed it goes ok.
Have also changed Cloudflare, let me know if you see any changes, good or bad.
Crunchy
13-11-2015, 09:03 PM
If Crunchy were a customer of mine, I'd be throttling his connection and having all sorts of fun...
Nooooooo, slow loading tities :'(
So far this morning I haven't needed to refresh Steve.
Gon Fishun
14-11-2015, 08:02 AM
Pages are loading better using Firefox as the browser. Watching the info in the bottom left corner, can take between 3 and 6 seconds to load page.
Chimo
14-11-2015, 08:52 AM
Gon Fishun
Now that you have moved to the light with Firefox check out the Firefox OS Phone by ZTE too.
They are under the counter at JB and for less than $100 put the other many times more expensive phones to shame
The AF site seems to work fine with my setup but I've been on Firefox for years now.
Cheers
Chimo
FWIW Chimo I found Chrome to be much faster than Firefox.
Chimo
14-11-2015, 10:25 AM
Reliability?
Like clockwork Chimo, it's there every time I turn my computer on.
Chimo
15-11-2015, 06:11 AM
So clockwork is good then!?
Just an update re my posts #4 and #5, It seems to have fixed itself and no more black boxes.
Probably a Chrome update or the website itself.
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