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netmaker
25-05-2013, 04:32 PM
well, I thought it was time for a little reel maintenance today. latest reel started making some noise last trip so it was time. stripped, cleaned and greased the reel it replaced and stowed on board as a spare. then came the new reel. stripped, cleaned, greased and back together and... no anti-reverse, doh>:(. don't even know why they have switches for this, I mean who wants to wind a reel backwards? anyway, pulled it down again to find I had lost some teeny weeny spring that locks in the anti reverse>:(. after spending an inordinate amount of time on my hands and knees with a spotlight, I decided to try and poach a spare from an old reel. well the first was missing the same spring, the second was rusted and broken and the third one - bingo. carefully removed spring with tweezers and bang, gone somewhere>:(. back on the hands and knees with the spotty for a while and was starting to look at manufacturing a dodgy replacement when I found it - on the workbench::). these things are tiny and I worked up a sweat trying to apply it to the right posts without another fling thing happening. I think I need jewellers glasses but actually managed to get it right and back together again. longest reel service ever - just on 3 hours. looking at the way the anti reverse works I think I will be wiring them in place in the future...

Crunchy
25-05-2013, 05:07 PM
You didn't find my roller bearing spacer at the same time by any chance? How does a missing 5 cent piece of plastic (or spring) have such an impact!

Just one of the Boys
25-05-2013, 06:16 PM
Apparently that anti-reverse switch is for certain fishers that actually do wind backwards.

I was told this by a Penn rep, or Shimano rep... unsure which one.

Some countries in Europe wind backwards as do some USA fishers.

But, I agree, it is a waste of time and a pain in the butt.

Horse
25-05-2013, 09:47 PM
Apparently that anti-reverse switch is for certain fishers that actually do wind backwards.

I was told this by a Penn rep, or Shimano rep... unsure which one.

Some countries in Europe wind backwards as do some USA fishers.

But, I agree, it is a waste of time and a pain in the butt.

If I wanted to do that I would buy an Alvey. Its amazing how far one of those little springs can fly. Its not much less than those b!&*&$ little circlips that disappear into the distance

Scalem
26-05-2013, 03:03 AM
Dave I gotta love your descriptions. That's gold especially if your weren't trying to be funny. Been there done that!

If ever you need small bits like these there is a mob I use and they are over your way on old Cleveland road capalaba

http://www.smallparts.com.au/

Scalem

Sevric
26-05-2013, 08:14 AM
Been there and done that. I now have taken to doing reel services using one of those magnifying lights on a workbench covered in an old white sheet and exercising a great deal of care. A job i used to do in my younger days with ease has become a total nightmare.

Horse
26-05-2013, 08:33 AM
A plastic bag can help when playing with those little spring clips

netmaker
26-05-2013, 08:53 AM
Apparently that anti-reverse switch is for certain fishers that actually do wind backwards.

I was told this by a Penn rep, or Shimano rep... unsure which one.

Some countries in Europe wind backwards as do some USA fishers.

But, I agree, it is a waste of time and a pain in the butt.

doing this had the good result of reminding me of the most common reel failure I have experienced - the anti-reverse stuffing up. I won't discard a reel for this in the future. a bit of tie wire and problem solved. at least tie wire won't fly off somewhere and the added bonus is that I won't lose a fish to the switch having moved and winding backwards instead of locking in. I have missed out on hooking fish due to this in the past.

netmaker
26-05-2013, 08:55 AM
Dave I gotta love your descriptions. That's gold especially if your weren't trying to be funny. Been there done that!

If ever you need small bits like these there is a mob I use and they are over your way on old Cleveland road capalaba

http://www.smallparts.com.au/

Scalem

thanks mate. I wonder if they fit them too????

netmaker
26-05-2013, 08:56 AM
oh, and I am happy you managed some enjoyment from my frustration...

Mike Delisser
26-05-2013, 11:34 AM
In some situations where you're fishing plastics (would work with bait too I guess) to a school of fish sitting well up off the bottom it can be handy to turn off the anti-rev. Sitting directly above the school and using your sounder you very slowly wind your lure about 5 winds up through the school then 5 winds back through the school, and so on and so on. With a good sounder you can see the jighead going up and down through the fish. The technique can be very effective at times but boring as bat sh#t if the fish won't cooperate. A lot of tournaments down south have been won doing this trick lately.

When ever I'm replacing a small spring, a split ring on lure, or anything at all that could fly off and be hard to find, I thread a couple of feet of thin fishing line tied in a loop through the object. If the spring flys off it won't go far with the line attached and when it's in place I just cut and remove the fishing line.
Cheers

MudRiverDan
26-05-2013, 11:48 AM
92923

eh..Can you put my FireBlood back together?

Scalem
26-05-2013, 08:50 PM
thanks mate. I wonder if they fit them too????

Don't think so, but I am sure that once you find the right spring they can offer a bulk discount until you perfect a technique with everyone's help:D Perhaps paint one room pure white. No furniture, no gaps under the door, purpose built for reel maintenance. Then the only other places the spring could hide is on your own ... erm.. person. Get someone to help you, could be the start of a romantic night for you Dave!

Scalem

Callop
26-05-2013, 09:17 PM
Don't think so, but I am sure that once you find the right spring they can offer a bulk discount until you perfect a technique with everyone's help:D Perhaps paint one room pure white. No furniture, no gaps under the door, purpose built for reel maintenance. Then the only other places the spring could hide is on your own ... erm.. person. Get someone to help you, could be the start of a romantic night for you Dave!

Scalem

also know as the rubber room

Noelm
27-05-2013, 08:20 AM
I have repaired all sorts of "stuff" during my working life, and by far the best set of tools I now have, is a set of Dentists "picks" tweezers and scrapers and stuff, they are of exceptional quality, and do not let things 'fly" off when grabbed, my favorite pair of tweezers are artery pincers, they were made to close off an artery quicky during an operation, they are self closing, and once something gets "tweezed" it stays put, if I think of it tonight, I will take a quick photo of my reel repair tool kit.

Noelm
27-05-2013, 09:55 AM
OK, here is a shot of my special tools for reel repairs, the tweezers on the right are the artery thingys, and they are normaly closed, so, you squeeze them open to grab small springs and washers and stuff, and they will not fling them across the room, the next pair have a sliding lock thing, so you can grab stuff, lock them off and then use both hands to fiddle with things, the rest are just dental picks that I use to move small springs and stuff around to hook over little pins and stuff, add to these, a set of jewelers screwdrives, a small shifter and long nose pliers, a small container of grease and you can tackle almost any reel on the market.

Noelm
27-05-2013, 09:57 AM
I might add, all of those tools are of very high quality, and no amount of misuse will bend them out of shape, those ones are near on 15 years old now!

Mike Delisser
27-05-2013, 02:49 PM
Hey Noelm I have a chipped molar that gets a little sore from time to time, would you mind having a look at it for me mate?

Noelm
27-05-2013, 02:57 PM
no problems, just call before you come so I can get the battery drill on charge.

MudRiverDan
27-05-2013, 05:10 PM
Hey Noelm I have a chipped molar that gets a little sore from time to time, would you mind having a look at it for me mate?

Beat me to it.
With the cost of dentistry these days I think Noelm might be onto a good little earner.
AS long as you don't fill the holes in my teeth with white Marine Sika it's all good. ;D

Dan

Scalem
27-05-2013, 07:24 PM
A modest length of string tied to a door knob, same end result, cheaper too.;D

Scalem

MudRiverDan
27-05-2013, 07:53 PM
A modest length of string tied to a door knob, same end result, cheaper too.;D

Scalem

String... pttf don't skimp when you got 50lb braid from ebay! :-X

Dan