Crab pot and kids

[Seahorse]

Can someone tell me what the legal age is for a child, to put out pots.

Cheers
Greg

[MICHAELG]

Greg
i think no age as such as long as they can pull it
Michael

[tunaticer]

From the rules and regs for qld fisheries:
Note: The age limit for the recreational use of crab apparatus has been removed.

Ref. http://www.daff.qld.gov.au/28_3065.htm

[choppa]

ditto to above,,,, no age limit at all on pots,,,,, ruling covers the limit of pots per person only

[Seahorse]

So if I take out granddaughter, that is 4 pots for me and 4 for her. Even though they are all my pots, is it alright to have my name on all 8 pots?

Cheere
Greg

[rosco1974]

yep all good greg.crabs will be here in 3-4 weeks,counting down

[Seahorse]

Son in law got 4 nice keepers on Thursday
Bring em on rosco. Do u think a 2 1/2 yr old could bring up a pot. My have to put in an electric winch to haul up pots and then they will only need to press a button. Not hard to see that my granddaughters are now living in brisbane. Lol

Cheers
Greg

[rosco1974]

yep.pretty sure a 2 1/2 yr old could with a bit of help from grandad...

[Triple]

No need for the person to be able to "pull" up the pot either...
That is the fisheries officers individual interpretation of the legislation and not documented anywhere in the 1994 act or in the 2008 legislation.
DPI website states "Fishing rules apply to all ages but children should be of an age where they can be responsible for the use of their own fishing gear."
But that is only the words on their website which doesn't mean squat in a courtroom and it says "should" not "must" and as i've said is NOT in the legislation. Otherwise if if they MUST handle it, it is discrimination against handicapped people, elderly etc.

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?182281-Crab-pot-limit&highlight=crab+limit

[netmaker]

would however recommend against counting a pregnant wife as 2 people;);D

[Triple]

Slightly off topic but still relevant -
I can't find any definite answers to this or wording in any legislation.. (maybe my googlefu is lacking)
When do they count a foetus as a person? At 24weeks gestation (legally viable) or when it is born (seperated from mother) or when it takes it's first breath?
I know the subject has been raised in the past regarding pregnant women being hit and losing the foetus and the assailant only being charged for hitting the mother not the death of the foetus.

What is the definition by law in Australia of a "person"?

[Seahorse]

Hey my daughter is pregnent. Thanks now I have another. Won't be long before I will have pots strewn from woody pt to Scarborough. Lol

[Fallen angel]

So if I take out granddaughter, that is 4 pots for me and 4 for her. Even though they are all my pots, is it alright to have my name on all 8 pots?

Cheere
Greg

Hi Greg

Yes you are allowed to have 4 pots per person in your boat no matter the age. There is no argument there, the reason the age restriction was removed was to allow the activity to be more family orientated.

For the matter of naming the pots, technically YOU own the pots and your grand daughter is using them, after arguing the matter in front of a judge and the costs of doing this it would be easier to write out new tags.

And yes individuals have gotten off on this technicality of who owns the pots as this is a loop hole and it has been there for a long time.

[rosco1974]

all good greg all my pots have my surname on them only,never had a problem...

[Seahorse]

Rosco, all to confusing to me.

Cheers
Greg

[rosco1974]

dont worry bout it mate.just crab and enjoy the time with the little ones...doesnt matter if you have 8 pots out with your name on the pots as long as there is anotherperson in the boat beside yourself..think oldmate has got himself all cocked up.been checked plenty of times with my names on the pots and others in the boat and never had an issue,comon sense

[Axl]

I totaly agree with what rosco1974 has said. All my gear has my surname on the float and name and address on the pots (as per regs).

When I have someone on board with me and I take out more than 4 they are all marked in my name and I cant see how this is an issue as long as you have the right amont of people for the amont of pots onboard or in the water.

PS: I got a couple of sandies in Pumicestone Passgae last week and to my surprise they were nice and full. Lost a pot rope and float though>:( the weed was hurendous filling the pots up and causing them to move with the tide run each night.

[Noelm]

hhmm quite a bit different in NSW, the law clearly states that the gear must have the name and address of the person who sets and lifts the gear, so if two of us are crabbing, then we can have 5 traps each, not 10 in total with one name on them all, they are very clear on this.