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gazza2006au
26-07-2012, 12:33 PM
have made atlease 10 calls to shops in sydney thats why im posting here to find someone a little further away hopefully that can do the job cant seem to find anyone in sydney who does crankshaft rebuilding for pressed together crankshafts i was even told to call motor bike shops so i did they only do single cylinders wtf? ;D anyway its off a yamaha 25hp CV
the bearings are toast on the crankshaft the conrod bearings seems to be ok i want to order the bearings from the USA and get it rebuilt over here to keep cost low

centrefire
26-07-2012, 01:10 PM
Mate.
I found these guys up in Darwin when I needed a crank rebuilt for my Kawasaki three cylinder two stroke bike. They do marine as well and appear to be one of the very few who still rebuild multi cylinder two smoke motors.

Just Google Crankshaft Rebuilding Services.

gazza2006au
26-07-2012, 01:22 PM
Mate.
I found these guys up in Darwin when I needed a crank rebuilt for my Kawasaki three cylinder two stroke bike. They do marine as well and appear to be one of the very few who still rebuild multi cylinder two smoke motors.

Just Google Crankshaft Rebuilding Services.thanks what address will i need to ship it to? one says on aus post site 6+ days delivery the other is 4 days

BM
26-07-2012, 06:26 PM
Gazza,

As far as I know we have no outboard crankshaft rebuilders capable of doing hardened journals left in Australia after Paul England & Co in Melb stopped doing it. Happy to be proven wrong however.

The US is the place to get it done, or buy in a secondhand crank locally if possible or from the states.

Having said that, you can repair an outboard crank in Australia if the problem is the mains and not the big end. Big ends receive punishing reciprocal force and require hardened journals. Mains receive rotational force only so you can get away without them bring hardened.

Ideally you want them hardened but you can successfully weld, regrind and use without failure.

Cheers

gazza2006au
26-07-2012, 07:06 PM
Gazza,

As far as I know we have no outboard crankshaft rebuilders capable of doing hardened journals left in Australia after Paul England & Co in Melb stopped doing it. Happy to be proven wrong however.

The US is the place to get it done, or buy in a secondhand crank locally if possible or from the states.

Having said that, you can repair an outboard crank in Australia if the problem is the mains and not the big end. Big ends receive punishing reciprocal force and require hardened journals. Mains receive rotational force only so you can get away without them bring hardened.

Ideally you want them hardened but you can successfully weld, regrind and use without failure.

Cheers thing is they dont sell this model in the US so finding parts over there is hard they do have parts with the same part numbers but who knows what will show up if anyone can find a new or second hand crank part number 69P–11400–00

BM
26-07-2012, 07:42 PM
I checked out his website and very interesting. I phoned him and got voicemail so waiting for a return call. He may well be very handy to know in future.

TopBhoy
26-07-2012, 07:43 PM
Have you tried the Uk; they may sell the model you are after? What about also trying contacting several Yamaha dealers and ask if there is an equivalent international number/part? Tthey may not sell your particular model but it may turn out to be a common identical part across several other models with only the part number changing ie for part no. 695-11400-00-00 CRANKSHAFT ASY there are several moels which it can be applied to. See here: http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/Y-695-11400-00-00.html

Sometimes the part number only changes because of the country an item is sold in, for all other purposes they are identical. Sometimes of course it isn't but it is always worth checking out.

copie
26-07-2012, 08:22 PM
gazza2006au, Try these two Dave at Crankshaft Engineering Browns Plains Brisbane 07-38067488 or Serco Pty Ltd Capalaba Brisbane 07-38233833 Cranks can be Re-hardened by a process called nitriding.

Mark

gazza2006au
27-07-2012, 12:20 PM
Mate.
I found these guys up in Darwin when I needed a crank rebuilt for my Kawasaki three cylinder two stroke bike. They do marine as well and appear to be one of the very few who still rebuild multi cylinder two smoke motors.

Just Google Crankshaft Rebuilding Services.
i tried calling got an answering machine

I checked out his website and very interesting. I phoned him and got voicemail so waiting for a return call. He may well be very handy to know in future. has the bloke called u back BM?


Have you tried the Uk; they may sell the model you are after? What about also trying contacting several Yamaha dealers and ask if there is an equivalent international number/part? Tthey may not sell your particular model but it may turn out to be a common identical part across several other models with only the part number changing ie for part no. 695-11400-00-00 CRANKSHAFT ASY there are several moels which it can be applied to. See here: http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/Y-695-11400-00-00.html

Sometimes the part number only changes because of the country an item is sold in, for all other purposes they are identical. Sometimes of course it isn't but it is always worth checking out.good idea thanks ill call the USA and find out might also call the UK


gazza2006au, Try these two Dave at Crankshaft Engineering Browns Plains Brisbane 07-38067488 or Serco Pty Ltd Capalaba Brisbane 07-38233833 Cranks can be Re-hardened by a process called nitriding.

Markcalled the first one bloke said he doesnt do it called the second one 4 times got a engaged signal i think they have the phone off the hook



just called the yamaha deal and got told a new crankshaft is over $1900 how help full $1900 crank on a $2900 engine wtf?

Noelm
27-07-2012, 12:45 PM
My mate at Caloundra had his done at a place called "Port O Call" at Warana, they pressed his 50HP Yamaha crank apart and did the bearings and stuff.

gazza2006au
27-07-2012, 01:12 PM
My mate at Caloundra had his done at a place called "Port O Call" at Warana, they pressed his 50HP Yamaha crank apart and did the bearings and stuff.i just called that guy hes said its not worth rebuilding my crank and to call around wreckers i mentioned i have called around 25 shops and no one will rebuild it

OPTI
27-07-2012, 05:27 PM
basically you carnt rebuild it,some pressed cranks you can buy new journals with the big end bearings,if yamaha dont sell journals which im pretty sure they dont ,you wont be able to fix it .
spray welding and re hardining has never been successful hence why no one will do it any more ,try the wreckers or maybe a new power head is a better option

gazza2006au
27-07-2012, 05:31 PM
basically you carnt rebuild it,some pressed cranks you can buy new journals with the big end bearings,if yamaha dont sell journals which im pretty sure they dont ,you wont be able to fix it .
spray welding and re hardining has never been successful hence why no one will do it any more ,try the wreckers or maybe a new power head is a better optionyeah yamaha does sell new journals and big end bearings i got quoted $1900 for a new crank found a shop online in germany same crank for under $400 delivered

OPTI
27-07-2012, 05:34 PM
well go for a new crank,if not bellieu engineering on the gold coast can press the journals but guaranteed it will cost more than 400

BM
27-07-2012, 10:47 PM
Gazza, yes I got a call back from the Darwin guy. He's a semi retired bloke and seems very reasonable in his pricing. He can handle motorcycle cranks and smaller hp "pressed" outboard cranks. Cannot do single piece outboard cranks.

Paul England and Co for MANY MANY years provided hardened journal resurfacing but the business was on-sold (I can check the date) and the new purchaser had a few failures as I understand it and elected to no longer provide the service. The previous owner of the business was extremely successful at rehardening cranks.

Likewise, in the US there is no problem getting cranks re-hardened.

grahamdarwin
28-07-2012, 12:48 AM
Graham here, the crank rebuilder guy from Darwin, I now have a listing in the Members Business listing under outboards.
Graham

gazza2006au
28-07-2012, 04:16 PM
Graham here, the crank rebuilder guy from Darwin, I now have a listing in the Members Business listing under outboards.
Graham good to see u here Graham i sent u a email regarding the crank in this thread

:)