Peel snapps screen shots.

[Why-ting]

Here are a few screen shots i took on the Lowrance hds units from the 2 sessions on sunday and monday mornings.

Shot 1.has a large amount of scattered fish to the left of the boat and a couple just to the right. also picking up fish holding close to the bottom on the downscan.

Shot 2. has scattered fish to the left again and a small tighter school to the right there is some small bait schools holding high in the water colum.

shot 3. school of fish to the left and downscan showing fish tight to the bottom. the bottom is reasonably flat here it just shows the undulating bottom from the boat moving up and down with the chop.

Shot 4. Scattered fish to left of boat and some being picked up in the down scan.

shot 5. School of snapper holding tight together half way up the left hand side 60-70ft out. there are a few scattered fish just below and just above the tight fish aswell.

shot 6. large tight school of snapper from 60-100ft out left side of boat. scattered fish below them aswell.

Shot 7. this is a great shot. It has a school of snapper down the bottom left hand side. A school of snapper halfway up the right hand side and has a big school of jew fish just coming onto the screen on the top left hand side. there are scattered fish all over this shot.

Hope these shots help the guys that were asking about them. If you have any other questions about the shots, just ask and ill do my best to clarify for you.

Cheers Whytey

[netmaker]

geez whytey. have you got a degree in reading these things? i really must go see the opto and get some glasses lol. buggered if i can see anything that makes any sense to me. only parts that i can make out are the small fuzzy bits showing on the far right of your screen. they look like prawns on my humminbird and dsi units lol. guess i would have to read the hds manual to try to work it out. thanks for the puzzle anyways.
cheers
davo

[mookyandlumpy]

i can see some of the obvious ones, but can you circle what you see in the pics please, that would be great :)

[BLOOEY]

Agreed netmaker. Cant make head nor tail of it myself either apart from maybe the seccond shot. Ben

[Why-ting]

No degree Davo. just use it all the time. haha. when i first got the units i just took the units over ground i know pretty well.this gave me an insight into what the rocks and different bootms look like.

With these shots i have the side imaging set at 100ft out each side of the boat. this is the width i like to run when serching for fish in the 30-50ft depth range. obviously the closer you bring in the width of the screen the more detail you get with the fish and bottom structures.

on the lowrance units i look for things that look like bright grains of rice. if the fish are up off the bottom they will throw a bigger shadow behind them. the best advice i was given when i first got the units, was that imagine its like a torch pointed out to the left and one out to the right and it flickers on and off really fast and snaps pictures at the same time. You could even get a torch at home and point it at things close to the wall and thing far away from a wall and this will give you an idea of how things will show up on your sounder screens.

Im not sure if thats going to help you or confuse you more. It make sense to me (sort of) hahahaha I find it easier to explain in person were i can point out things on the screen.

hope that helps

Cheers Whytey

[Why-ting]

ill see if i get time tonight and put up a pic with some details like arrows and circles and stuff

[Why-ting]

these are all the same photos just with differnt explanations on them hope it makes it a bit easier to understand. if you look at the edges of the scools you can make out the individual fish.

[netmaker]

thanks whytey. that makes it a lot clearer. i do need glasses. those fish are even smaller than the prawns on my units lol. in fact i may need binoculars to see those suckers. maybe one day when youre down a deckie you can show me up close;D
cheers

[Why-ting]

Dave the only reason they are showing so small is because of the width i have on the side scan. You have to imagine that from that centre line looking both left and right is 100ft. So across the width of the screen is showing 200ft off the ocean floor. So when you put that into perspective it makes you realise that most of the fish showing in these shots are all on the larger side.

I usually use this distance to scout fish and if looking for more deffinition i step the width of the screen in to say 50-60ft each side of the boat for this depth of water. The more you zoom in the greater the detail, but obviously not covering as much of the ocean floor. Glad it helped you out a bit.

As for the decky spot mate ill let ya know when im flying solo next.

Cheers Whytey

[z50man]

you see who on the what now ???? i see brown lines ,man i need help on this one ......

[netmaker]

righto, that makes sense. while i'm zooming in for prawns, your zooming out to see further afield. still, you must have keen eyes mate. i am impressed and will look forward to a one on one. dont know what my missus will think when i tell her i need yet another sounder tho::):(
thanks for your efforts

[Apollo]

Thanks for this thread and explanation. A question - the circled fish look like shadows??? Or are they the actual fish. I am getting HDS LSS put on the new boats, so am trying to grasp any info available in understanding them.

Thanks
Steve

[Linedropper]

Cool pics bro. Did you catch any fish?

[Why-ting]

Dave you can never have enough screens. ive got 3 and would like another bigger one but dont think that would go down too well with my missus!

Steve there are some shadows in some of the circles and fish in them aswell. A more zoomed in shot would show it alot better.

Linedropper yeah we got into some nice snapps probably should have pu this on the end of that thread but heres the link if you havent seen it yet http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?182315-peel-snapps.

[Obi _ Wan]

These side imaging sounders are incredible, i have owned a HDS 10 for 6 months now
and i am finding the results mind blowing.
I will show a couple of screen shots i took while at Peter Faust Dam a few months ago
and interpret them for you. The shots are of barra and bait fish

[Obi _ Wan]

This screen shot, in 50 feet of water shows submerged trees of the left side, side imaging, on the right hand side we have down scan at the top and standard sonar at the bottom. The standard sonarn is showing what you may think is a sign of fish, the down scan (top) shows that what is actually there are just trees.
These units are a very valueable tool and are improving in leaps and bounds.

Cheers,
John.

[Why-ting]

Hey John. I hardly use my standard sonar any more. i still have it on another screen with my gps but mainly just use it when running at speed or looking for bottom density. I find my down and side imaging shows me most of the info i need. When you know how to use them properly it makes the biggest difference to your fishing. in saying that im still learning new things all the time.

they are a great tool for finding your own structure away from the areas that get smashed by everyone else aswell. i quite often just go zigzagging out in the middle of nowhere and you would be quite surprised with what you find in a couple of hrs out there. I find it more rewarding fishing spots ive found myself then getting marks off someone else. Cheers for the shots.

[Millsydude]

Why-Ting/John,

those things look bloody amazing, thanks for taking then time to share your photos and knowledge. I ppreciate the help. What are you paying for a unit out of curiosity, and how long did it take you to get get a hang of it?
Great snaps in the first report to Why-Ting.

cheers Millsy

[Humdinger]

i am only running hds 5 but i think i will go get a side scan for it now . thanks guys (and am sure wife appreciates it too)ha ha

[PinHead]

great pics..but..I notice both of them are reading in ft..do they make them to show metres?

[Obi _ Wan]

great pics..but..I notice both of them are reading in ft..do they make them to show metres?

Yes mate, i have mine set for feet, just my preference, you can set them for what you like, feet or meters

Cheers,
John.

[Obi _ Wan]

Hey John. I hardly use my standard sonar any more. i still have it on another screen with my gps but mainly just use it when running at speed or looking for bottom density. I find my down and side imaging shows me most of the info i need. When you know how to use them properly it makes the biggest difference to your fishing. in saying that im still learning new things all the time.

they are a great tool for finding your own structure away from the areas that get smashed by everyone else aswell. i quite often just go zigzagging out in the middle of nowhere and you would be quite surprised with what you find in a couple of hrs out there. I find it more rewarding fishing spots ive found myself then getting marks off someone else. Cheers for the shots.

Those shots are from the first real attempt at using the unit, when i settled down and started to see what it could do i just used it to find the fish, no use fishing where there are no fish, and when fish were found winding the range in and casting to fish as shown on the screen, worked brilliantly.
Locally in the Northern Bay its been a real eye opener, seeing at last just what the long time fishing spots looked like and then realising why there were fish there, seeing ribbons of reef run out like fingers and other spots just a solitary rock with a little rubble or a rock pile, just bloody amazing, worth every penny.

Like you, i only run side and down scan appart from having the GPS to get me on the waypoint i have previously saved. The downscan really shows how many fibs the normal sonar throws up.

For those interested there are plenty on sites on the internet that will help with pictures and technic al help, theres a chap in the states called Dr. Sonar, a retired medical doctor who actually has a web site and will answer your questions, very helpful.

Cheers,
John.
PS, If anyone is thinking of buying one of these units go the largest screen you can afford, that way you can comfortably run 4 different windows on the unit and still see them easily.

[kingcray]

Awesome awesome, love it. Gotta get one. Thanks Obi Wan & Why-ting for going to all that effort ;D Very cool
Deano

[Why-ting]

Millsy. Ive had my units for quite some time and the prices have come down a long way. Lowrance are just about to release the HDS Gen 2 sounders which will overlay the data from your structure scan side imaging over the top of the gps map which will make it a lot more user friendly. So the standard hds models should come down even more when the new models are released.

As for getting to know the units it doesnt take to long to understand it and as john said look up Dr Sonar. This guy really knows his stuff and helped me out when i first started using the units.

Pinhead. The units can be changed between all yanky and Aussie units of measure. I just prefer to use feet as it gives a little more detail with measurements. Its just something ive always done as most lures you use to buy came out with a running depth measured in ft. So i run my sounders like this to work out what lure i need to run to get me to the part of the water colum i want it to run in. Its just pesonal preference.

Cheers Whytey

[Cody]

That's awesome Whytey. Thanks for explaining it. Makes a lot more sense now. I am getting myself one of those units. Sounds like you got it pretty sussed. How long did it take for you to get the jist of it and started working out what is fish, rocks, trees etc?

Cheers Cody

[Why-ting]

Check this site out mate. The guy calls himself Dr Sonar and he really knows whats going on. It was a big help for me. http://www.hightechfishing.com/

[.:::stotty:::.]

Awesome thread, clears up a lot of questions.

Cheers mate