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jimbosplumbing
17-01-2012, 08:28 PM
Hi all , I was just wondering if I need to have a mono backing on an overhead reel. I normally have on all my other reels, but that was mainly used when the spool of line wouldn't fill the spool of the reel.
Cheers Matt
chris69
17-01-2012, 09:11 PM
Some do put a little bit it all depends if your just doing a small 125yd top shot or just need to put a bit on the bottom of the spool so braid dont slip,its allway best to have you over head full,i buy bulk spools so i just fill the spool with all braid,its never been a problem for me with no mono, but can be if you have spooled the braid to tight on a light gauge spool it can warp it under heavy load.
hooknpull
17-01-2012, 09:19 PM
If you want to only use braid I just run a bit of sticky tape over the spool a couple of times so the braid don't slip and hangs onto the spool. Hope this helps.
jimbosplumbing
17-01-2012, 09:20 PM
Cheers its a new reel, i believe the spool of line i have will easily fill the reel. So its more just if its going to cause issues by not putting a little bit on.
tunaticer
17-01-2012, 09:22 PM
One wrap of masking tape on the spool then load her up it will not slip.
jimbosplumbing
17-01-2012, 09:31 PM
Thanks a lot guys. Your help has been fantastic once again
Muddy Toes
17-01-2012, 09:46 PM
There's a few reasons to back an overhead if your using braid but the main one for me on most of my setups is cost. There's no real point in buying a spool of 600yards of braid when you can back it with the same breaking strain mono and only use a 300yard spool to top the reel up.Depending on the depth of water being fished the reality is that most of the time the top 200yards or so of braid will actually see daylight thus wasting the other 400 yards or so of braid.
At the end of the day if you did fill the spool with just braid all would not be lost as you can always wind it on to another reel straight off the one it's on giving you the unused end to fish with on the new reel.
All in all it doesn't really matter which way you go about it but mono is far cheaper to fill a spool with......what ever you do just make sure the reel is full.
odes20
20-01-2012, 05:53 AM
There's a few reasons to back an overhead if your using braid but the main one for me on most of my setups is cost. There's no real point in buying a spool of 600yards of braid when you can back it with the same breaking strain mono and only use a 300yard spool to top the reel up.Depending on the depth of water being fished the reality is that most of the time the top 200yards or so of braid will actually see daylight thus wasting the other 400 yards or so of braid.
At the end of the day if you did fill the spool with just braid all would not be lost as you can always wind it on to another reel straight off the one it's on giving you the unused end to fish with on the new reel.
All in all it doesn't really matter which way you go about it but mono is far cheaper to fill a spool with......what ever you do just make sure the reel is full.
Good advice there mate.
I maintain 3 reels in my arsenal just for deep reef fishing, apart from mackerel spin rigs, baitcasters. The cost of keeping top quality braid on these can be a bit steep if you dont get creative. I operate with no more than 300 metres braid on top of the mono. You get get a big spool of mono cheap on Fleabay Australia, and get your braids way cheaper from USA Fleabay as well. I never use cheaper knock off braids, as they usually are larger diameter, the color comes out of them real quick.
At the moment I am using Daiwa Saltiga Surf Braid, Daiwa Samurai Braid, and some USA Shimano owned PowerPro. The daiwa stuff is really silkey smooth and has never failed me , except for being bricked, smashed, turbo charged tec by big bruisers on the reef.
Cheers
John
jimbosplumbing
20-01-2012, 07:08 AM
Thanks guys for all your help i ended up putting backing on and im glad i did. Ended up using a full 500yd spool even with backing defiantly didn't think that was going to happen. I used power pro on this one after reading some good reports about it on here and being able to get a 500yd spool on the net for cheaper than a 300 yd spool in the shops helped make my decision.
Cheers Matt
Coodgee
20-01-2012, 08:14 AM
I don't understand this slipping business. I've always spooled braid straight onto the spool with 6 wraps and then a uni knot. No tape, no mono. Never had any slipping issues ever. Fair enough if you want to have a full spool and don't have enough braid to fill it, but slipping shouldn't be an issue.
hooknpull
20-01-2012, 08:26 AM
On my Stella I had 80lb braid and when it had heavy drag tightened it would slip at the braid before the drag spun. Cheers
Aaron.
Coodgee
20-01-2012, 09:01 AM
On my Stella I had 80lb braid and when it had heavy drag tightened it would slip at the braid before the drag spun. Cheers
Aaron.
how did you attach the braid to the spool? If the first 6 wraps behind the uni knot don't slip, the whole spool shouldn't slip. I was fighting what turned out to be a ray the other day and I had my drag almost locked with 50lb on a saragosa 8000 and no slip.
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