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PinHead
28-12-2011, 03:05 PM
Just collected a couple of rods to be used for fishing for barra and cod. Using E5 baitcasters on them..what size line is recommended?
20 & 30lb Nitlon ( the blue stuff) - cannot fault it & has been the most reliable braid I've used over the last 5 years.
Chris
Stuart
28-12-2011, 04:12 PM
Pinhead wont have to worry about Nits, he has no hair, not enough for nits to take over anyway. Sorry Pinhead. Nitlon is very good and I use it on my soft plastic reels. You will have a pretty high performance outfitt with all that flash stuff mate, you sure you going to be able to handle it? At least if you dont catch anything you will certainly look like you know what your doing.
Stu
PinHead
28-12-2011, 04:21 PM
LOL at the nits comments. You are just talking with bias about the gear..LOL I wonder what make my new rods are ???
wags on the water
28-12-2011, 05:14 PM
20lb braid Greg.
Daintreeboy
28-12-2011, 08:15 PM
Yeah 20 lb mate, maybe 30 at a stretch just for piece of mind really They make Nanofil up to 27 lbs now so it might be worth trying. It casts really well and is holding up brilliantly for us. So far we've only used 12 lb
Yeah 20 lb mate, maybe 30 at a stretch just for piece of mind really They make Nanofil up to 27 lbs now so it might be worth trying. It casts really well and is holding up brilliantly for us. So far we've only used 12 lb
Nanofil is not a good choice for baitcasters ......... smooth and round is not what you want on a baitcaster - it will bite into the line load .
Berkley recommend against it
Chris
Daintreeboy
28-12-2011, 09:34 PM
Nanofil is not a good choice for baitcasters ......... smooth and round is not what you want on a baitcaster - it will bite into the line load .
Berkley recommend against it
Chris
Really? Can you post a link to this?
Really? Can you post a link to this?
I don't have a link - but lift the label on the spool & the first thing you read is "Berkley Nanofil is designed for a wide variety of spinning reel applications"
but I'm sure you can find it somewhere
Chris
PS ../. on the front packaging they describe it as "the ultimate spinning reel line"
sambino
29-12-2011, 12:18 AM
There is always fireline, allthough i havent looked at it but i was thinking of looking into good for lighter casting weights without the wind knots...so i hear. not sure if it will bite in in to the line load though
There is always fireline, allthough i havent looked at it but i was thinking of looking into good for lighter casting weights without the wind knots...so i hear. not sure if it will bite in in to the line load though
I wouldn't use fireline on a baitcaster - you can , but it's a poor choice. The best lines are the true braided lines (not fused) - 4 or 8 pick ....... these lay the best & are less likely to bite into itself. The braiding process (uncoated) means that the weave creates a greater surface area reducing the ability of the line to bite into itself ...... or so the theory goes . I know from my experiences that the fused braids generally dont work as well on baitcasters - most have been ripped off my bc reels pretty quickly
Chris
wags on the water
29-12-2011, 07:43 AM
I wouldn't use fireline on a baitcaster - you can , but it's a poor choice. The best lines are the true braided lines (not fused) - 4 or 8 pick ....... these lay the best & are less likely to bite into itself. The braiding process (uncoated) means that the weave creates a greater surface area reducing the ability of the line to bite into itself ...... or so the theory goes . I know from my experiences that the fused braids generally dont work as well on baitcasters - most have been ripped off my bc reels pretty quickly
Chris
Just because you don't like fireline doesn't mean it's crap. We've been using fireline for a number of years without drama. What line you use is a personal choice - there's no right or wrong answer.
Just because you don't like fireline doesn't mean it's crap. We've been using fireline for a number of years without drama. What line you use is a personal choice - there's no right or wrong answer.
what you are saying is of course correct ......... All I am saying is that there are much much better choices. Would I advise someone to spool up a baitcaster with fireline ....... absolutely not!. A light spin reel absolutely yes!!! . Opinion based on using superlines since they first came out in the 90s...... literally dozens & dozens of makes , types & weights on numerous types of outfits - with no bias or affiliation.
If you are happy with your choice - stick with it ........ but if you are open minded try a true braid and experience the difference.
Chris
I used to use Fireline on my baitcasters and after it "ran in" it was fine but it is very wirey to start with,i've tried a few "braids" and found that for my style of fishing (casting/trolling) the Fins original comes out as a good allrounder.........It has good knot strength some decent diameter and behaves itself on every reel i have it on....I have caught literally thousands of fish using it and would have to say it has not let me down once..........Sunline casts well and is smooth through the guides but has poor knot strength IMO...
Pinhead i would start off with some Fins 30lb and see how you go,it's cheap and i really can't fault it........sure it's not every ones favourite but it is a good allrounder without a doubt......i'm sure you would be more than happy with it.
Dan
PinHead
30-12-2011, 08:17 PM
Pinhead wont have to worry about Nits, he has no hair, not enough for nits to take over anyway. Sorry Pinhead. Nitlon is very good and I use it on my soft plastic reels. You will have a pretty high performance outfitt with all that flash stuff mate, you sure you going to be able to handle it? At least if you dont catch anything you will certainly look like you know what your doing.
Stu
Based on that Stu..I probably should not put line on them..just leave them there to look pretty. Have not even put the reels on the rods yet..the rods look oh so pretty..LOL..seems a shame to add anything to them.
finga
30-12-2011, 08:22 PM
Based on that Stu..I probably should not put line on them..just leave them there to look pretty. Have not even put the reels on the rods yet..the rods look oh so pretty..LOL..seems a shame to add anything to them.
We need some tomato stakes....
PinHead
30-12-2011, 08:33 PM
OMG finga..that will be the end of you at rod building weekends now.
Those new rods of mine..they start with the letter "P"
wags on the water
30-12-2011, 10:05 PM
what you are saying is of course correct ......... All I am saying is that there are much much better choices. Would I advise someone to spool up a baitcaster with fireline ....... absolutely not!. A light spin reel absolutely yes!!! . Opinion based on using superlines since they first came out in the 90s...... literally dozens & dozens of makes , types & weights on numerous types of outfits - with no bias or affiliation.
If you are happy with your choice - stick with it ........ but if you are open minded try a true braid and experience the difference.
Chris
I have "experienced the difference" with your much dearer true braids and found some are sh!t. One of the reasons I stick with Fireline. The other thing that sh!ts me with your "true braid" with it's suppleness is it tends to wrap itself around the tip of the rod. Something Fireline doesn't.
I have "experienced the difference" with your much dearer true braids and found some are sh!t. One of the reasons I stick with Fireline. The other thing that sh!ts me with your "true braid" with it's suppleness is it tends to wrap itself around the tip of the rod. Something Fireline doesn't.
mate ..... I've bought some true braids that I would never touch again (Castaway PE , Sunline Super PE , Toray Bawo) - all of these have exhibited poor shock resistance ...... a quick sharp hit and snap!!! ....... not good when paying $50-$80 a spool......
That suppleness - is what makes it cast so well off a baitcaster ....... the suppleness you only get from a true braid.
A stiff line brings its own problems - so does a coated line when spooled onto a baitcaster .......... If you have to fish a line for several trips before you break down the coating to gain efficiency is no good to me .......... at the same time you are weakening the line.
as I said before ....... the properties of a good true braid that make it ideal for baitcasters will make for a disastrous line for spin ( light spin). it's why a lot of people like fins - a pretty good compromise for both spin and baitcast - but is left behind by other choices for spin or baitcast. ( I honestly do not believe that there is a braid that is great on both spin and baitcast ........ or at least I have not found it)
chris
finga
31-12-2011, 07:13 AM
OMG finga..that will be the end of you at rod building weekends now.
Those new rods of mine..they start with the letter "P"
Yeah, I know :D
lethal
01-01-2012, 08:21 AM
I used to fish Mondy and on my first trip i took 20lb line which was getting snapped like cotton. Quickly upgraded to 50lb line which brought the next wave of dramas, leaders, split rings and straightened hooks. I always fished heavy timber with narrow channels so i needed the heavier line to turn the fish and bring it to the surface. 10kg were small fish and 16-18kg were average. I'd deciede where and the style of fishing before i put line on my spool. Trolling the main basin at Mondy would be fine with 20lb but if you have to lock the drag you've got no chance.
Lee
wamjam
01-01-2012, 11:39 PM
Just collected a couple of rods to be used for fishing for barra and cod. Using E5 baitcasters on them..what size line is recommended?
If you are going to be fishing for cod anywhere near granite rocks, I would not go any less than 50lb braid. I use 50lb tuff line with 35lb schneider leader (the cheap stuff at most tackle shops). Don't waste money on those fancy bloody leader lines.
If you don't like braid, or don't want to use it (for cod) I would go 17 or 20 lb mono especially around granite rock areas.
Scott
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