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nathank
18-12-2011, 11:53 AM
Hi all, i just purchased some new braid today and was wondering if anyone has been using this stuff called Berkley Whiplash? for its breaking strain it has an unbelievably diameter.
10.6kg for 0.06mm.. crazy thin! I really like the Rovex viros as it casts really well, i thought it had good diameters but the 13.6kg stuff has a diameter of 0.23, so close enough to 4 times the diameter for and extra 3kgs breaking strain... Anyway just wanted ppls thoughts who have used it as it seems like awsome braid..
tunaticer
18-12-2011, 01:25 PM
Whiplash came out about 8 yrs or so ago and yes it is thin for the breaking strain. Some spools seem good others not. Check the diameters with a micrometer ad you will find its not as thin as stated because Berkley have a tendency to state the thinnest thickness of a not round cross section not the average. I found it worked well until the line was broken in and then it doesn't hold as well.
MudRiverDan
18-12-2011, 03:10 PM
I don't see the point in braid being too thin, the fluorocarbon leader on the other hand would be nice if they had super thin.
I guess I just like a bit of body in the braid, and don't do much finesse fishing.
diabolical
18-12-2011, 05:12 PM
Don't believe the BS or diameter the line manufacturers put on the box. Whiplash is actually not that fine when you look at the real numbers. Refer to Paulus just fishing line testing site.
Horse
19-12-2011, 05:02 AM
I was suprised when I read Pauluses numbers on the stuff a while back. My experience with the sttuff is quite the opposite. In 65lb it is a mile thinner than Powerpro, Finns or tuffline. When new it is coated with a waxy surface and will really test your knots as any movement cut through your leader
TREVELLY
19-12-2011, 05:24 AM
Okay Horse now you have got me thinking.
I just bought a 1000m spool of 100lb powerpro from US which they say is equivalent diameter to 20lb nylon - they give a number I do not recall (at the office so can't check either) - and it is way thinner than any other braid I have - so this Berley Whiplash is thinner still?
Diameter may not matter so much to most for their application but is important in 100m of water and a fair current also it is important when on a drift and you have 250m of line off the spool it is good to still have a reasonable diameter left at spool for line retrieve rate.
Being tied straight to a swivel splices with other lines or leaders are not an issue either.
Thanks for the "heads-up" guys.
I assume it isn't that stiff type of line either? I did get one some time back thin but like wire - "fireline" or something.
MudRiverDan
19-12-2011, 06:52 AM
If you want thin diameter then get PE Toray or PE Sunline, it is a lot thinner than normal braids.
MEG-A-BITE
19-12-2011, 06:59 AM
I have it on all my jig outfits have had no issues with the 50lb/80lb range.Also have 50lb as backing on my surf reels.Have pulled a 125kg shark from the beach and had no problems.
I like the thin diameter and the soft feel of the braid.
Moffy
19-12-2011, 07:38 AM
Have used Whiplash for a fair while in 20, 50 and 80lb and love it - don't really worry what the numbers they claim might or might not be for diameter - for me using it - it is very thin for its breaking strain compared to other braid that i've used. Have just got some 30 for my baitcasters specifically as other 30 doesn't cast as well due to its diameter and the whiplash 30 will give me a bit more muscle in the snags up here than the 20 Bionic Braid i currently use while still casting well.
I use the 20lb on a 4500 symetre and it is brilliant for casting slugs to tuna etc - casts a mile.
I use the 50lb on a capricorn 4500j - have caught many reds and trout bottom fishing with this outfit and GTs casting poppers around the reef and off wrecks. have never had any issues with longevity - though always tie bimini twist doubles (on all breaking strains) and change them and discard a metre or so once wear starts to show. Have been near spooled a few times with "old" whiplash and have really given it to it and its always the heavy leader that lets go from wear - not the whiplash.
my brother and Daintree Boy both have 80lb whiplash on Saltiga 6500s. Again no issues with it at all - good knot strength etc. This vid of DB on a lemon shark off weipa is 80lb whiplash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKy8wbniUbA&list=UUaoZD62h00DLI_GrJi49fhA&index=8&feature=plcp
;)
diabolical
19-12-2011, 07:55 AM
Braids like Whiplash look thin on face value, the 80lb stated on the box actually breaks at around 69lb(Paulus) . The 80lb in Power Pro breaks at over 100lb.
Tested breaking strain vs tested average diameter are the only numbers to look at for REAL comparisons.
i like thin braid mainly for casting distance when required. Makes a quite a considerable difference when you are casting for mackerel or tuna where most of the time long casts are needed. Not so much an issue when casting in close quarters for other species. even 16lb daiwa tournament hyper is really thin.
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