barra in the nerang?

[big_fan_of_jack]

hey guys one of the blokes at work reckon there was an artical in the bulletin about a year ago about a bloke getting a barra in the nerang?did anyone else see this?what are the chances?:-?

[robersl]

i know there some in the coomera before the floods

[big_fan_of_jack]

really!how did they get down here u reckon?wouldnt it be great of they started breading!

[MudRiverDan]

They escape from the fish farm is what is said.

I seen photos of one caught in the Brisbane river at night time about 18 months ago.

[TheSaint]

It was caught at the top of the Coomera river..

[big_fan_of_jack]

yeah thats sounds about right, was reading an artical about the one caught in nerang, doug burt pipes up n says he thinks it a fish tank barra someones let go?iv had barra thery do grow pretty quick but why would you let it go when the fish shops pays good money for decent sized barra!
primary industrys wer talking about releasing 10,000 fingerlings into the GC system in january this year not sure if it ever got state support tho and got off the ground. would be great if it did tho!

[wayno60]

Yep also heard of the one in the coomera but none from the nerang...

[OverNover]

Yep, the Barra in the Nerang was a legit catch caught by a GCSFC member but it was beleived to either be an escapee from a farm or a tank fish that grew too big and was released. Not sure if releasing Barra into GC rivers is a brilliant idea, think of what they would eat, might cause issues for other fish such as the GC's famous Jack, having to compete for food could have detrimental effects. Just my opinion of course, don't crucify me for it, I love catchin Barra as much as anyone! If they're not here naturally, there's probably a good reason for it. Cheers.

[crab man]

Ive seen a pic of a little barra that was cought in a cast net while prawning in one of those brisbane rivers , would be awsome to get them breeding in SEQ .... carn't see it ever happening in the wild atleast but its nice to dream ! . it would be a modern day gold rush

Craig

[NAGG]

I dont see why not ........ The Mary River has a breeding population & barra travel - If given the right conditions / currents etc there would be no reason that they wouldn't end up at Bribie & from there - its pretty easy to see them venturing into the bay & beyond - would they stay ..... if temps were comfortable for them & food were available .... why not! - I wouldn't expect large numbers but yes I wouldn't be shocked.
Then we have released fish & escapees ........ very likely the source.

Now .... I wish I could remember where I read it but it basically said many many years ago there were populations of barra in one of the rivers between Brisbane & the Gold Coast!

Chris

[brock13]

Caught a 45cm model in a castanet less than a year ago is canal 30mins north of brizzy so could be possible. Pics of this barra were in a previous post

[randell]

I have read reports of barra in
The Mooloolah Rv 2 I know a lady who caught one
Around Bribie in a cast net.
Brisbane Rv year ago or so
Logan Rv
Coomera Rv
Nerang Rv saw the pic in the paper

They are few and far between..................
I thought it might be one of these canal estate developers releasing a few to boost the area....
What effect would releasing barra here have on our local systems, they would probaby wreck it and they couldn't breed .

Why not just fish your local area, learn about the local ecosystem, and get a feed now and then................

good fishing
randell

[Lovey80]

WTF I am alerted to this thread by an alert that I disliked Nagg's post. Hmmmm and Nagg's post was somewhat reasonable..... Buggered if I know.

[NAGG]

WTF I am alerted to this thread by an alert that I disliked Nagg's post. Hmmmm and Nagg's post was somewhat reasonable..... Buggered if I know.

You probably thought it was an ETEC thread ;);D . ..... not a drama !

Chris

[tuna44]

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A small barra i got in the Coomera while chasing jacks a few yrs ago. People's pets most likely.

[ifishcq1]

first of all if they are there and it is saltwater then they can breed they will move through a system to find the right salinity levels
secondly how in hell could they do any damage at all to any system?
they only eat to live, they don't catch more than they need so they can feed the rellies or give away to the neighbours or sell on the black.
they won't make the slightest difference to any other species especially stuff like jacks because everywhere barras are there are already jacks and besides they are originally native to most of the coastal rivers in Qld
don't let temperatures put you off because we have been getting a few lately around Rocky in water 17c
if you guys are lucky enough to have a population down there good luck to ya it is a good thing
cheers

[MudRiverDan]

Couple of guys caught a whopper in the Brisbane river about 15 months ago, caught on a Thready-Buster if I am not mistaken.

[randell]

This was in the Sunshine Coast daily june 2010

randell

[Toddy_again]

This is from Skinners Boat Ramp Logan River.
I cant prove it because there are no land marks but I took the photo about 2 or 3 weeks ago on my phone.
Toddy70614

[randell]

Here's an old tread from AUSFISH archives, barra all over the place..................
a good read
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/archive/index.php/t-78545.html
randell

[Bushygreen]

All true about nerang Guy was on 9 news and in the paper ....one of those tank fish released.

[tunaticer]

Barras also reside in the Bribie passage and its feeder creeks, know of over 10 that have been caught in there in the past 40 yrs. One mate has scored two alone.

[big_fan_of_jack]

great post IFISHCQ2 im with you!itd be a great thing!

sorry toddy i cant view your file can u email me this picture skindog101@hotmail.com cheers8-)

[brock13]

http://ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?170318-What-a-day!!!&p=1225974#post1225974

My previous post

[netmaker]

hi all,
a lot of this could be related to global warming. as the temperatures become warmer we will see more tropical fish moving down the coast and quite possibly see some of our "normal" species move further south away from us. these sorts of things have already been witnessed overseas. i saw a doco not too long back on the new species discovered in the red sea and species that are now no longer there. we may expect to see fewer snapper as they head further south but then we may also start to see more red emperor, coral trout and red throats down this way. might even be able to catch banana prawns all year round? and who says global warming is bad? bring it on i say.
davo

[the gecko]

Barra have always been around the logan, coomera and now nerang rivers, but in very small numbers. My theory is that they move with the warmer currents that only come with La Nina weather patterns, so we wont see em this year with El Nino back.

Crocs have been found in the Logan, so why not barra?

How many fishos do you know who target barra in the GC rivers? None. Thats why they arent caught in numbers.The pro who nets the top of the river at Coomera isnt going to be in a hurry to tell you about a barra he got, but I can tell you it happened.

[seastorm]

I was at the Gem Bait and Tackle the other day and I saw that someone has caught a 5kg Barra in the Logan River, I guess that Mick from the Gem will put the photo of it in the next QLD fishing Monthly.

[kingcray]

I have now seen barra caught in the pine, the noosa... even one in a cast net off woody point. More recently, in QFM (october i think), a bloke is holding one up outside Gem Bait n Tackle at Jacobs Well caught in the Logan.

[landy1]

Historical accounts of early settlers to the Brisbane region (John Oxley etc.) have comments describing a fish which sounds a lot like a barra being caught up to the fresh water reaches of the Brisbane River. They were fished out fairly early on as they were reputed to be easy to catch in large numbers. The boffins think that the Brisbane river was once part of the barra's natural range.

[pilgrim]

It would be unlikely that the DPI would ever release Barra on the Gold Coast, due to the translocation policy, (Only fish that occur naturally in the system can be stocked). I knew a guy years ago who ran several prawn and fish farms for the seafood industry, and he spoke of a separate species of Barra more tolerant of colder water. The normal Barra is Lates calcarifer, where this strain is supposed to be Lates Cavafrons. Which is supposed to be the strain found in the Mary- Burrum systems. Don't know how much truth there is in it.

[ifishcq1]

Hi Pilgrim I just spoke to the marine biologists at work to confirm what I knew and none of them have heard anything other than the standard barramundi lates calcarifer
from my own research they did range into northern nsw when us whiteys arrived here
The Mary Burrum system has direct sea access and as of the latest tagging info quite a number of fish tagged in the Gladstone area have been caught as far south as the Maroochy river
so that suggests when ever there has been major flooding in the years before studies that some numbers definitely headed south
some systems that are totally isolated from all other system have slightly different strains which develop small differences but they still one hundred percent lates calcarifer
i have caught them in most parts of coastal Queensland, NT, WA. NewGuinea and they are all the same species
cheers

[Lucky Loz]

Mate of mine on Gold Coast says catch and release boys fishing for Jacks have caught and released 3 Barra in the last months in the upper Nerang. If they are under the Bribie bridge why not down here??

[killitfillit]

My grandfather worked on wivenhoe dam when it was built and they used to catch barra on live bony bream in their spare time in the brisbane river.
The last crock was shot in the logan in the 70's and they live in the same water.
There are breeding populations in the mary.
I have heard reports of barra being caught in sydney harbour?

[Horse]

I think the last confirmed Croc in the Logan was back in 1905. The local Barra population in SEQ is big enough that a couple of locals target them each year. There is a lot of water between each fish but they are in SEQ. Noosa had a few being caught in the 70s and 80s and even more now

[BLOOEY]

Me and a mate both got one on the goldy this year when fishing for jacks. One on a livey and one on a walk the dog lure. Ben

[marto78]

A mate of mine said he got a 110cm barra at Pikenbah the other week but it got taken by a croc before he got it to the boat and he didn't have his camera ready so he couldn't get a photo and prove it, but it must be true because my mate wouldn't lie to me. :P

[BLOOEY]

Here is mine from the goldy marto78. Diddn't see any crocs:cool3:. Ben

[Lucky Loz]

Ouch! Nice one mate