View Full Version : Do I Need a New Computer?
fairpractice
07-12-2010, 06:21 AM
Hi all. My computer is taking , on average 25-30 seconds to move around the ausfish web site.
I mean 35 sec. to open,29sec to login,25sec to open a section,34sec. to open a topic etc. etc.
Other websites are fine, like mudhole,e,bay etc.
This has happened in the last 2 weeks, up till then fine.
I use bigpond cable access and it is pretty fast.
Don't want to whinge, but would like to know if others are getting slow access or do I need a new lap-top for Christmas
Cheers John
PinHead
07-12-2010, 06:23 AM
if you are using Internet explorer then download mozilla firefox..much faster
Scalem
07-12-2010, 06:49 AM
John,
There are some standard windows housekeeping tools you could try, if you don't already know about them. 1st one I would run is disk cleanup. Go to start, programs, accessories, system tools, disk cleanup. In that window check boxes such as recycle bin, temp internet files, error dump files.. If you have never done this, there is likely to be lots of unnecessary files your computer is holding onto, which slow things down.
Another tool is disk defragment which is also found in system tools. I have mine set to defrag the disk once in a while.
Scalem
mozzie1957
07-12-2010, 06:52 AM
Also try downloading, and installing, SpyBot. It's a free program that'll help you rid your pc of any bits of spyware or other nasties that may be infecting your pc and slowing it down. Update your anti-virus program and do a full pc scan, as well
I also have Firefox installed and set as my default browser. I agree that it is much faster than Internet Explorer.
Fuscus
07-12-2010, 07:03 AM
Fairpractice,
I am also having the same problem. I find it so annoying that I rarely have enuff patience to wait around until a thread is displayed and go and look at other sites that respond quickly
Fuscus
wayno60
07-12-2010, 07:06 AM
yep im the same..... all my other sites/forums are normal...
bennykenny
07-12-2010, 07:09 AM
its not your computer john, its a problem with the website and apparently internet explorer, its been happening to alot of people, but no one seems to know what the problem is, they have just been telling us to download firefox as our browser
Jabiru658
07-12-2010, 07:32 AM
People should be using Firefox or Chrome instead of Internet Explorer anyway... using IE just supports the Windoze monopoly :)
bennykenny
07-12-2010, 07:41 AM
i have no problems supporting a monopoly, at the end of the day, i dont care whos pocket my money ends up in.as long as i have my product.
JACE...
07-12-2010, 07:47 AM
Same deal with my pc at home.
But super fast at work ?
the gecko
07-12-2010, 08:03 AM
1. go to www.speedtest.net and check your internet speed.
2. install firefox
3. read the firefox sticky in the Help forum.
4. learn about the firefox addons (hint, hint). It seems to be the ausfish ads from other sites like google ananlytics that slow the page loading down. If you look in the bottom left of your firefox browser you can see that ausfish loads immediately, but we are waiting on some overseas website to supply an ad in flash or java, and thast what seems to slow the page loading down. I dont want to deprive ausfish of its income source, but they really should impose a 1-2 sec timeout on unresponsive ad sites. there are ways around all this if you are keen enough to learn firefox addons, but thats up to you.
lethal098
07-12-2010, 10:40 AM
its a joke, work and home are ridiculously slow, work is super fast on everything but this site! Somebody needs to find the problem and fix it, 3 weeks ago was great, what has changed????
Lee
Micadogs
07-12-2010, 10:49 AM
Same for me as well, home PC is very quick using IE. Work computer is very slow using same version of IE. Getting very frustrating!!
Marlin_Mike
07-12-2010, 11:18 AM
its a joke, work and home are ridiculously slow, work is super fast on everything but this site! Somebody needs to find the problem and fix it, 3 weeks ago was great, what has changed????
Lee
HEAR HEAR LEE. I HAVE BOTH WORK AND HOME, BOTH PAINFULLY PAINFULLY SLOW.
Why cant the site run equally as fast on IE as it does on Firefox? Why should I have to install and run Firefox, just cause "its deemd to be better and runs faster"? Why cant the site be set to run just as fast on IE? Seems no one wants to do the hard work and fix for both browsers. Why the hell should I have to download Firefox?????????? Fix the site so it runs just as good on IE.
Tanty Over - and yes some of you are probably going to say if you dont like it and wont change to Firefox then "pi** Off" and go elsewhere. Well thats your opinion, and the above is my opinion. World would be bloody boring if we all had the same opinion on everything.
Mike
ahamay
07-12-2010, 11:24 AM
As others have said and I really like reading these forums but it can be as annoying as hell. I'm on a mac using safari and I can tell you it has the same issues as IE on PC.
I've managed to make this site load better and work at a level where I don't get the sh!ts with it by doing the following:
1. Get the latest version of Firefox.
2. Install the Ad-Block pro plug-in
3. Add the following URL's to your add-block black-list:
http://www.google-analytics.com/*
http://acvs.mediaonenetwork.net/*
http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/ads?*
http://www.ausfish.com.au/ws/icon.jpg
http://www.moonmodule.com/cs/ccm_fl.js
http://www.ausfish.com.au/adserver/*
http://www.ausfish.com.au/chat/images/template/*
http://ausfish.com.au/images/number1.jpg
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/*
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/forum_files/acemenu_dom.js
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/forum_files/menucb1.js
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/forum_files/acemenu_loader.js
This will make the site work as it's supposed to until the mods can work out the performance issues.
Cheers
Cheech
07-12-2010, 01:26 PM
As others have said and I really like reading these forums but it can be as annoying as hell. I'm on a mac using safari and I can tell you it has the same issues as IE on PC.
I've managed to make this site load better and work at a level where I don't get the sh!ts with it by doing the following:
1. Get the latest version of Firefox.
2. Install the Ad-Block pro plug-in
3. Add the following URL's to your add-block black-list:
http://www.google-analytics.com/*
http://acvs.mediaonenetwork.net/*
http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/ads?*
http://www.ausfish.com.au/ws/icon.jpg
http://www.moonmodule.com/cs/ccm_fl.js
http://www.ausfish.com.au/adserver/*
http://www.ausfish.com.au/chat/images/template/*
http://ausfish.com.au/images/number1.jpg
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/*
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/forum_files/acemenu_dom.js
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/forum_files/menucb1.js
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/forum_files/acemenu_loader.js
This will make the site work as it's supposed to until the mods can work out the performance issues.
Cheers
That works. Though you do not need to filter the Ausfish URL's or the moon one. You need the Ausfish url's to see the normal dorpdowns etc. Thanks for the tip. Looks like the problem is around the google adds.
ahamay
07-12-2010, 01:35 PM
That works. Though you do not need to filter the Ausfish URL's or the moon one. You need the Ausfish url's to see the normal dorpdowns etc. Thanks for the tip. Looks like the problem is around the google adds.
Don't need it. Just bookmark and go straight to the Forum Page:
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/index.php
finga
07-12-2010, 02:31 PM
It seems to be the mediaonenetwork.net doing the damage bacuase that's the name hanging around the bottom saying it's trying to load the page.
How can I block that one please??
I've got the adblock plus going
ahamay
07-12-2010, 02:57 PM
It seems to be the mediaonenetwork.net doing the damage bacuase that's the name hanging around the bottom saying it's trying to load the page.
How can I block that one please??
I've got the adblock plus going
Open the Add-block options (There should be a toolbar button) or from the add-ons menu, then add that site: http://acvs.mediaonenetwork.net/* to the filter list or the blacklist (can't remember which it's called).
The Add-block is a handy one to run in general as it blocks a lot of malware sites automatically.
As well you can right click on images and things within a webpage (like ads) and add them to the black list. Just go sick on all the sites you access and block anything you don't want loading up. Makes browsing the sites you visit frequently less stressful.
cheers
bennykenny
07-12-2010, 03:28 PM
wow after a bit of fiddling around i think ive managed to block those pesky adds, and my browser is running alot faster and my drop down menu loads almost immediately, thanks ahamay
Crestcutter
07-12-2010, 05:49 PM
No problems with the pages loading for me.:thumbsup:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1060649148.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
fairpractice
07-12-2010, 06:57 PM
Hi. all. thanks for advice and comments. Have flicked Internet explorer instead using google chrome. Working well now. cheers john
death_ship
12-12-2010, 09:59 AM
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finga
12-12-2010, 10:24 AM
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Mate, do what ahamay has suggested.
Works a treat and not just on this site.
Adblock Plus added on with your Mozilla Firefox and jobs done :)
Aunty Jack
12-12-2010, 11:29 AM
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Its up to you if you use it or not.
But it works for me.
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BTTUAC
13-12-2010, 01:09 AM
HEAR HEAR LEE. I HAVE BOTH WORK AND HOME, BOTH PAINFULLY PAINFULLY SLOW.
Why cant the site run equally as fast on IE as it does on Firefox? Why should I have to install and run Firefox, just cause "its deemd to be better and runs faster"? Why cant the site be set to run just as fast on IE? Seems no one wants to do the hard work and fix for both browsers. Why the hell should I have to download Firefox?????????? Fix the site so it runs just as good on IE.
Mike
Working in a web-development business, I can say that its not as easy as 'fixing the site' for IE - particularly IE7. Being a new member, I don't want to say anything untoward, but it is really is a complex issue - I wish our company didn't have to spend upwards of $500K making our software faster in IE when it worked fine in nearly any other browser. IE8 should do much better, and when IE9 comes, that will be better still, but Firefox, Safari and other browsers will perform better right now.
I don't know the inner workings of this site and I'm not actually a programmer, but looking at some of the 'nice' features they're using here, they're not going to perform anywhere near as well in IE as other browsers as the rendering engine in IE7/8 is just not as efficient.
Its like having two identical boat hulls, but one has a 15hp and the other a 50hp - if you're just pottering about, does the difference in power really matter? But in some circumstances, like running up a creek on an outgoing king tide, 50hp is going to perform much better.
That is a really simplistic analogy, and I totally understand your frustration, but if you're prepared to give Firefox a go you'll find that its not just this site that performs much better - any of the more complex sites you visit will also perform much better.
Cheers
lethal098
13-12-2010, 10:40 AM
this still does not explain why a few weeks ago it was fine and now it is like this, It is not as simple for some of us just to download other programs, Work computers and it departments stop that real quick. There has to be something different between those times, someone just needs to find out what!!
cheers Lee
BTTUAC
14-12-2010, 12:16 AM
this still does not explain why a few weeks ago it was fine and now it is like this, It is not as simple for some of us just to download other programs, Work computers and it departments stop that real quick. There has to be something different between those times, someone just needs to find out what!!
cheers Lee
As a new member, I can't comment on previous performance but if it has degraded, for multiple users, yes I agree with your point - it could be anything from a new feature, Change of ISP host, new clients on the ISP and subsequent 'overcrowding' etc
As for not being allowed FF on work computer, yep that's typical in our industry - that's why we had to bite the bullet and spend the $$ on redeveloping for better performance in IE - the clients didn't have the option to install FF as their IT dept would not allow it.
this still does not explain why a few weeks ago it was fine and now it is like this, It is not as simple for some of us just to download other programs, Work computers and it departments stop that real quick. There has to be something different between those times, someone just needs to find out what!!
cheers Lee
You are dead right there Lee. I have tried computers at work my home PC and at the moment I am on a computer in the Qantas club at the Brisbane airport all have the same issue the page seems to load alright (most of the time)but the drop down menu takes forever. Something changed a couple of weeks back?
death_ship
14-12-2010, 05:38 PM
ok got firefox and ad thingo, work a treat, heaps faster than IE which is comparatively slow on most sites. i notice the font is a bit dodgy but
cormorant
14-12-2010, 08:45 PM
People with big signatures also slow things down.
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/signaturepics/sigpic116739_4.gif
We live in a worls where everyone thinks users at hone have unlimited bandwidth.
sandbankmagnet
14-12-2010, 10:20 PM
Sorry, but I find some of these responses are quite amusing. Someone owns a PC at home and they're an expert.
The onus is on Ausfish to resolve the issue. Sorry Ausfish, as I can't stand whinging users myself.
People should not have to, and on many occassions cannot, install or change their Internet browser. For very good reasons, such as corporate users on their lunch break, Internet kiosk users, novice users or militant Bill Gates supporters. New clients to the site will not stand for the lag issues and will not change browsers on the promise of getting access to a site they're only somewhat interested in. It's in Ausfish's best interest. I'm on IE8 with cable broadband and it's slow. And lets face it,, IE is the most popular browser around, albeit by default of an OS install.
The best question posed was: What's happened in the last few weeks?
Sorry, but I find some of these responses are quite amusing. Someone owns a PC at home and they're an expert.
The onus is on Ausfish to resolve the issue. Sorry Ausfish, as I can't stand whinging users myself.
People should not have to, and on many occassions cannot, install or change their Internet browser. For very good reasons, such as corporate users on their lunch break, Internet kiosk users, novice users or militant Bill Gates supporters. New clients to the site will not stand for the lag issues and will not change browsers on the promise of getting access to a site they're only somewhat interested in. It's in Ausfish's best interest. I'm on IE8 with cable broadband and it's slow. And lets face it,, IE is the most popular browser around, albeit by default of an OS install.
The best question posed was: What's happened in the last few weeks?
I couldnt agree more. I do alot of flying to get to and from work and the Qantas club has just upgraded there machines to the lastest Mac computers running the latest version of Microsoft software.
I have tried to surf the Ausfish site in both Brisbane and Adelaide still slow.
The comps here at work use IE6 (very old now) but I can have two browsers open one on Ausfish and the other on whatever. I can get through at least six pages of whatever before the Ausfish browser loads up.
It appears no one is listening Ausfish mods are you there? Whats happened in the last few weeks?
ahamay
14-12-2010, 11:51 PM
People with big signatures also slow things down.
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/signaturepics/sigpic116739_4.gif
We live in a worls where everyone thinks users at hone have unlimited bandwidth.
There is an option in the control panel to turn off signatures. Much faster to load.
Fish_gutz
15-12-2010, 06:56 AM
I agree , something changed a while back and the drop down menu takes ages to load up. The mods might be on holidays!
finga
15-12-2010, 07:44 AM
Or maybe the modifications was a sponsorship from advertising or the like??
Why take them off if it brings in money??
That mediaonenetwork was sucking a lot of go juice up and, from this old logical mind at least, if you get rid of the advertising and things come good then the advertising is the culprit.
The site needs advertising and without it the site would not be here.
For those who complain about not been able to navigate well from work...get back to work ya slacker http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Unhappy/####you-052.gif
http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Unhappy/unhappy-049.gif
danryan75
16-12-2010, 02:18 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1072593164.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
@crestcutter. pure speed in not necesseraly the prob. 27mb and still slow to open the dropdowns
ahamay
16-12-2010, 02:38 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1072593164.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
@crestcutter. pure speed in not necesseraly the prob. 27mb and still slow to open the dropdowns
That test proves nothing, apart from the fact you have a good connection from your house back to the exchange.
If you do a trace you'll find that the ausfish web hosting is tucked away on some shared hosting account deep with the US of A.
IMHO thats the problem right there and would explain why the performance is all over the place from working to slow a dog.
PinHead
16-12-2010, 04:49 PM
I do not know what the problem is...I have been using IE and then downloaded firefox as everyone says it is faster..absolutely no difference at all..both are quick enough.
But I am the odd one out here...I know bugger all about computers and mine is working fine yet all the experts have the answers and still whine and complain.
Eric03
16-12-2010, 11:24 PM
It appears the top menu doesnt become active untill the webpage has completely loaded.
At the bottom of the page you can see alot of blank space (below the bottom google ad links)... looking at the webpage code there is some javascript code which appear to point to a website that no longer exists... my guess is that it could be trying to load this script from the remote source but is hanging and resulting in slow load times for us users...
Im not a web designer and only know very basics so the above could be complete rubbish :-? However if you want a PC fixed on the Gold Coast i can certainly do that ;D
Admins / Mods:
The code im talking about below... If you try and open the link to http://acvs.mediaonenetwork.net/client/pixel.gif in a blank page it will stay at "Waiting for http://website (http://website)" in the IE page status.
<!-- Added by ACEMenu Creator, NavSurf.com --><scriptlanguage="JavaScript1.2">ACECreateMenu()</script>
<!-- BEGIN: M1ACV Release 2.1.1 -->
<!-- (c)2002-2006, MediaOne Network Inc. All Rights Reserved. -->
<divid="M1DIV" name="M1DIV"></div>
<imgid="M1IMG" name="M1IMG" width="0" height="0" border="0" src="http://acvs.mediaonenetwork.net/client/pixel.gif">
<scriptlanguage="javascript" type="text/javascript" src="http://acvs.mediaonenetwork.net/client/acv211.js">
</script>
<noscript>
<imgborder="0" src="http://acvs.mediaonenetwork.net/client/njs.aspx" width="0" height="0" alt="">
</noscript>
<!-- END: M1ACV -->
<scripttype="text/javascript">
var gaJsHost = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl." : "http://www.");
document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost + "google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E"));
</script>
<scripttype="text/javascript">
try {
var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("UA-10444100-1");
pageTracker._trackPageview();
} catch(err) {}</script>
Almako
17-12-2010, 07:02 AM
I've got the issue as well, the page appears straight away but it's a blank grey page, it then takes takes 20 - 30 seconds to turn from grey background then it dumps the text. I'm not having any problems with any other websites.
I have been surfing other websites and flicking back to ausfish after 30 seconds or so. Very annoying, and has only started to happen in the last two weeks.
I like Internet Explorer, i've tried some of the others, but i just like the way this one is set up, history button, tabs etc etc
ahamay
17-12-2010, 07:25 AM
It appears the top menu doesnt become active untill the webpage has completely loaded.
At the bottom of the page you can see alot of blank space (below the bottom google ad links)... looking at the webpage code there is some javascript code which appear to point to a website that no longer exists... my guess is that it could be trying to load this script from the remote source but is hanging and resulting in slow load times for us users...
Im not a web designer and only know very basics so the above could be complete rubbish :-? However if you want a PC fixed on the Gold Coast i can certainly do that ;D
Admins / Mods:
The code im talking about below... If you try and open the link to http://acvs.mediaonenetwork.net/client/pixel.gif in a blank page it will stay at "Waiting for http://website (http://website)" in the IE page status.
Your right and I reported this in the other slow thread over a week ago and nothings been done about it.
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?p=1231987#post1231987
Triple
17-12-2010, 09:30 AM
Or maybe the modifications was a sponsorship from advertising or the like??
Why take them off if it brings in money??
That mediaonenetwork was sucking a lot of go juice up and, from this old logical mind at least, if you get rid of the advertising and things come good then the advertising is the culprit.
The site needs advertising and without it the site would not be here.
For those who complain about not been able to navigate well from work...get back to work ya slacker http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Unhappy/####you-052.gif
http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Unhappy/unhappy-049.gif
All new members bring in money too.. ($10 per year for standard membership or $39.95 for 6mths for premium) and if it takes 30secs to load each page then soon you will have NO new members due to this delay. I had to download firefox cause using IE was too slow. Alot of members are restricted to IE and won't come on here till its fixed.
PinHead
17-12-2010, 04:53 PM
Lol...awesome attitude right there. So your basically saying if you don't like it the way it is then bugger off and don't come back to the site. Righto.
I think what gets on people goat is the fact that the users know there is a problem, the mods know there is a problem but nobody has come on here and said "yes we know there is a problem and we'll look into it and hopefully be able to sort it out". That's all we are asking.
$1000 per month for au hosting..wtf I'd like to see the stats to back that up.
In the meantime those that have firefox can at least get on here and read stuff.
get over it...the owners have already said there is a problem and they are woking on it...as stated..it is not a full time business..so get off their case..you obviously seem to think you have all the computer smarts then go and start your own fishing site if you don't like this one.
everyone is an expert but they never put their hands up to create something better of their own...just want to bag someone elses work.
ahamay
17-12-2010, 05:02 PM
get over it...the owners have already said there is a problem and they are woking on it...as stated..it is not a full time business..so get off their case..you obviously seem to think you have all the computer smarts then go and start your own fishing site if you don't like this one.
everyone is an expert but they never put their hands up to create something better of their own...just want to bag someone elses work.
I am over it :) ... Im not bagging anyone or this site...in fact I've provided quite a few suggestions that might help the owners and also the users work around the current issues until they are resolved. Take it or leave it..
2 weis
12-01-2011, 09:56 PM
using site tonight 12/1/2011 and response time is great hopefully all is fixed
Ausfish
13-01-2011, 03:14 AM
using site tonight 12/1/2011 and response time is great hopefully all is fixed
Thanks for letting em know. Still monitoring the situation but there have been several issues that have been changed in the last month.
One of the main problems is the amount of bots attacking the site and trying to post spam. This has caused a huge problem with slowing the server down. Seems as though we have stopped the bulk of it but still working more ways. It is a never ending job to stop these spammers and hackers.
Steve thanks very much for the time and effort you guys have put in to fix this issue.
It certainly has worked and the site is now running at what you would call normal speed.
beejay1947
13-01-2011, 10:22 PM
Steve, my drop-down menus are also working again, and response time is "up to speed"
Regards Bruce
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