Advice on knot for braid to mono

[southcoasthunter]

looking for the best knot or best way to attach braid to mono needs to be able to travel through the guides ill be using 50 lb braid and 50 lb mono:-?

cheers

[Jonli]

I use MidKnot exclusively for GT/Tuna popping but will use short twisted leader made from fluorocarbon leader for baitcasting .

For MidKnot illustration , just google it as there should be plenty of sites featuring this knot .

Jon .

[lethal098]

is it for casting or overhead trolling setup??

[southcoasthunter]

its for overhead live baiting, used braid for backing for more line capacity and mono top shot for abrassion

[Daintreeboy]

I use the Yucatan knot and swear by it. Very quick and easy to tie and has a nice low profile to slip through the guides. It also has a very good knot strength.

[southcoasthunter]

I use the Yucatan knot and swear by it. Very quick and easy to tie and has a nice low profile to slip through the guides. It also has a very good knot strength.
how do you tie the loop thats already there the same way?

[Daintreeboy]

I'm not quite sure I understand your question. The line on the left is the braid that has a double previously tied. If you are happy to wait I'm going to do a short video of the knot and can post it on you tube if you like?
Gimme a week.

[Horse]

I stick to tried and proven Improved Albright. It works for me

[Mike Delisser]

Slim Beauty for me.
BTW YouTube is a great place to pick up a few new knots, plenty of videos showing how to tye each one, just type the name of the knot into the search box on YouTube.
Cheers

[Richard]

Yeah slim beauty for me too.. used to tie imrpvoed albrights too but found the slim beaty sits down much more nicely and doesnt need a dob of superglue like the albright sometimes needs

[southcoasthunter]

i have tried normal albright knot and slim beauty and they seem to break at knot quite easily havent tried the improved albright will give it a go also do you use normal super glue or special super glue?does the superglue eat away braid?

[southcoasthunter]

I'm not quite sure I understand your question. The line on the left is the braid that has a double previously tied. If you are happy to wait I'm going to do a short video of the knot and can post it on you tube if you like?
Gimme a week.
yeh cheers mate that will be great:)

[Richard]

Haven't had any problems with the superglue eating away at the braid at all. I find it just helps the braid slipping up over the mono loop which can happen after passing through the runners a lot during casting.

I usually just buy the Selleys stuff in the little bottle with the brush. Much easier application and you can usually use almost the hole bottle, no wastage like in the tubes which never seem to go the distance.

[fat-buoy]

I use the modified albright but just get a lighter and give the mono a quick hit so that it creates a small blob at the end about 3 - 5mm from the braid... I also tend to do a double on the braid mainline with the braid tag.. what this does is create a small section of knot (which is tiny and passes through the eye easy) but stops the mono rubbing on the braid mainline.. it is sort of a crossover between the FG knot and the improved albright.

[Brent_P]

how do you tie the loop thats already there the same way?

The loop is a "Bimini Twist". You can also tie a double in the braid using a plait, which is easier to tie well, but which takes a lot longer to tie, even after a lot of practice. A plait, or a well-tied bimini, retains almost 100% of the breaking strain of the braid.

Paulus, who tests knots and lines free of charge, has written that some of the bimini's he's received for testing have broken at 70%, so it's hard to know how strong your bimini's are without testing them on scales, especially when you first start tying them.

The "braid to mono" question has been asked a few times on this site. You can probably find some more answers to your question if you do a search.

Brent.

[southcoasthunter]

looks like the bimini twist is the way to got looks complicated but i will be tying it under about 200-300 yards of mono so should only have to tie once or twice a year and i can do it front of computer with video that shows how to tie it

cheers lads for your help

[PNG1M]

If your knot is going to be sitting under 2-300yards of mono I wouldn't bother about the bimini double at all.

I've used doubles when baitcasting but don't like them much going through the guides. I think it gets too cluttery for that half a metre or so of line, with the knot at the top of the double and the knot joining the mono. Too knotty for me!

I use a simple albright and I reckon one of those would be ample for your needs if tied properly.

My preferred braid / mono combination when fishing PNG ended up as 20kg braid (44lb) and 50lb mono leader. Similar to the dimensions you have mentioned.

When tieing the albright I do 20 careful, tight wraps up and keep winding in the same direction for another 20 tight wraps back down. I trim the tag end at about half a cm and never bother with super glue. Keep it all exact & snug and lube with spit as you tighten it up.

I've used the same albright knot for a whole weekend of intensive lure fishing then two months later we go again and I can start with the very same knot on my line that I tied on the first trip.

When I cut the knot and re-tie, it's usually personal choice (for insurance - just in case) rather than because the knot has failed. Or if I notice a few end loops of the braid beginning to loosen and move up over the trimmed tag end, then I'll re-tie. But I can't remember that knot ever failing with a fish on.

So for your application, the albright.

[Richard]

yeah, as png said, don'[t bother with a double if that far underneath all that line. Just use a double uni knot or something similar for the connection.

I tend to use the superglue with only 5-6 turns on the albright but if you do 20 I can't see that slipping at all.. I'm just lazy :)

[Richard]

oh, and the bimini get fairly easy with a bit of practice. string the loop around your feet (or toes) and use your knees to spread the loop apart to get the tension, much easier that way. Zip it down then pinch with your fingers, then tie it off or set up your backthread if you are going really serious.. never had a bimini fail though, they're a great knot and the double gives strength to your other knots

Still reckon it would be easier with 3 hands though

[southcoasthunter]

ok thanks guys ill just go the improved allbright knot with 20 wraps ans super glue lol just to be safe because if i did loose 300 yards of line from a fish it would be a big fish and would kill my self if my knot broke