View Full Version : Exist 2506 for Egrell Bear s2 - HELP!
kickback
04-06-2010, 01:58 PM
Hello!
I've just found an ad with someone selling a Daiwa Exist 2506 - Was wondering if it might be too small for my 2-5kg Egrell (from the look, it'll be a bit unbalance). Seeing if anyone has opinions of the setup or own something similar.
I've currently got a Stradic 2500FI and balances ok but its time to uprade! A gift for myself for having a new job ;D
The Exist has 3kg drag pressure compared to the Stradic's 9kg. Exist is 190g compared to 270g!
Anyways hope someone can help me.
Cheers
Kickback
LostNearBribie
04-06-2010, 02:47 PM
Mate that would really depend on what you use if for.
The 2506 (I think) is a finesse spool, so it will have less drag and hold a lot less line also.
I have and Exist 1003 on an S1 and the balance is beautiful.
I have always run a Shimano 2500 on my Bear S2 and it has been perfect.
I don't want to scare you off, but you should read this also....
"Just a quick warning about something that has come to our attention in the last few months regarding high end Daiwa reels being built from non genuine parts, parts from different reels, flat out wrong parts that have been altered to fit or parts completely left out.
The main type of reel being done is 2500R size Exist which means they could be being sold as 2500, 2506, 2508, 2508R, 3000 or 3012 as any of those spools will fit on a 2500R body. The reels are being sold through internet forums like this as well as on eBay from the original seller and unfortunatly once people realise they have been ripped off they are trying to sell them on.
The reels appear to to just be run of the mill used reels with average wear on the outside. The problems are mainly on the inside where parts like the main shaft and the oscillating gear are the wrong size and are from a different reel. The main shafts tend to look like they were bent at one time and have been straightened again by being hammered flat and have obvious tooling marks on them which make them rough while oscillating. The oscillating gears are most probably from a 3000 size reel which is actually slightly bigger than a 2500R and causes the spool to make contact with the rotor on the down stroke. Parts that may not seem vitally important such as the washer under the oscillating gear or the washers between the pinion gear and bearing are simply missing. This may not seem like much,but high end reels work to very fine tolerences and a tenth of a mm can make a big difference to how a reel feels. The click leaf spring and holder are from a Certate and are on a slightly longer spool metal which can mean the reels drag is comprimised. The clutch cam retainers are completely wrong and have had their eyelets cut with pliers to fit the body. Some of the reels have drag knobs and rear covers from a Steez which are a different colour.
All this gives the impression that these reels have been put together using junk parts with the intention of selling them and there have been well over thirty of them sold in the last 12 months that are known about.
In many cases it is not cost effective to fix a reel with these kind of problems. Fixing can run into hundreds of dollars.
This is simply a warning to be careful when buying any second hand gear especially sight unseen over the internet. The vast majority of sellers should be happy to answer questions and provide detailed photos of more expensive items."
Hope this helps mate.
kickback
04-06-2010, 03:03 PM
Thanks mate. With a reel that expensive and also being in another state i'll prob just back off.
Will prob pick up the new certate this weekend instead.
DHM77
04-06-2010, 03:39 PM
Kickback,
I agree 100% with LNB. I run a 2500 Sustain on my Bear S2, have tried a 2506 Certate Finesse, but it doesn't feel as good, a bit tip heavy with the lighter reel on it. IMHO the Exist would be better suited to a more finesse style lighter rod, and I personally use the Bear S2 as an all rounder for heavier SP and HB work.
Regards,
Dave
kickback
04-06-2010, 04:10 PM
What do you guys think of a 2500 New Certate with the Bear s2 - Should balance alrite, right? :)
DHM77
04-06-2010, 04:53 PM
Kickback,
I haven't picked the new Certate up, or even read the specs on it - but if it is comparable or slightly lighter than the 2500 Shimanos it should be fine. I have heard that they are unbelievably smooth and everyone who has bought one so far seems very happy with them. If possible take the rod to the shop and try the Certate on it, you will know straight away if it feels right or not.
Regards,
Dave
LostNearBribie
04-06-2010, 06:27 PM
I think that would be spot on mate.
They are a lovely reel.
Champilly
04-06-2010, 09:27 PM
What about a Steez. In between the Certate and Exist.
Side note beware anyone selling an exist!!!!
Mate picked one up last month and has been done over.
kickback
05-06-2010, 06:39 PM
Picked up the new certate 2500 today and i'm very very pleased with it!
marty+jojo
05-06-2010, 07:15 PM
What do you guys think of a 2500 New Certate with the Bear s2 - Should balance alrite, right? :)
I have an S2 with a Sol 2000, and an S4 with a Certate 2500R custom Fuego. Both are balanced perfectly, i have had the Certate on the S2 and it felt wrong to me.
Marty.
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