its like a inland Sea

[Awoonga]

This place they call Lake Awoonga. l tell the old girl l need a bigger faster boat.
" Fat chance you only just got that one was the reply " So l go back to foundling lures. thinking to myself bad timing try again later, much later .The lake is a vast watery wonderland and even in my wildest dreams l didnt think that the water would get so high.There is a area that us locals call the bathtub Why ? cause there used to be a bathtub on the bank untill somebody nicked it ! Well this area is massive now .The Barras have found it and are having a marvelous time in the flooded grass. So surface is the tool to use. How big is a barras mouth ? More to the point is what do they think they can fit in there. l watched as a barra boofed a rather large floating cow pat. You know what l mean ! it went six foot in the air. Madness .The bush camp now has a million dollar view. Just park your boat below the camp site. No wonder its booked out. l think the word will travel quickly and the grey nomads will put it on there must visit list.! There is a steady stream of vistors to the lookout at the spillway and just yesterday it was about 80cm from going over. l get a funny feeling in my guts as l look at the spillway but not because of what you think ! My wifes father was killed during the construction of the spillway many years ago. And every time l go there l think of him. Moving on. Futter creek. This vast area now has arms that spill out onto the plains. And come winter l think it shall become a mecca for barras .With the release of more fingerlings into the lake you would think that all is rosy for the lake but there is a very dark cloud and at the rate that it is spreading l fear it shall clog this vast waterway Salvinia .The water board has tried to stem the flow but since the rise in water level it has spread through most of the Boyne arm. So l fear what measures they will have to take to remove it. l wait with baited breath...

[warrior]

we all prey that the dreaded S doesnt take over in any of the areas mate i have seen one dam on a documentry with it in and it is not good ,look forward to a winter fish up there and the second round of the comp.

[BR65]

Nice words Trev.
Love the cow pat boof, hopefully I'll see the same throwing a tango turd at Mondy.
Of course you need a newer, shinyer, faster boat, we all do, I cant believe the cheese and kisses doesnt see that!

[nipsta]

trev be good to see some photos

[tossie]

Ha, you think you need a faster boat. Want to try it in the hornet with a 30 on the bum.:( As for the dam JUST SPECTACULAR:o

Cheers Shaun

[NAGG]

Thanks Trev ....... The Aquarium trade has a lot to answer for >:( - would hate to see an arm in the dam shut down or worst still - the whole dam :( bloody SALVINIA!

sounds like you are enjoying some pretty good fishing atm - certainly something to enjoy while it lasts
Cow turd boof ..... ;D;D;D saw them boofin sticks back in late Feb at Mondy when the water was coming in - pretty cool.

Chris

[davez104]

It's not the aquarium industry. It's the idiots that own aquariums and think it is OK to dump their unwanted stuff anywhere. Even with all the publicity about feral animals/introduced plants becoming weeds etc, there are still people who would prefer to dump an unwanted fish into a creek than knock it on the head. These ignorant aholes are the people who put our local habitats at risk and give us (yes, me) aquarium keepers a bad name.

Dave.

[NAGG]

It's not the aquarium industry. It's the idiots that own aquariums and think it is OK to dump their unwanted stuff anywhere. Even with all the publicity about feral animals/introduced plants becoming weeds etc, there are still people who would prefer to dump an unwanted fish into a creek than knock it on the head. These ignorant aholes are the people who put our local habitats at risk and give us (yes, me) aquarium keepers a bad name.

Dave.

Why bring into the country a noxious weed in the first place - Yes it is a industry issue ...... just like the introduction of Talapia .
As for the fools that dump their unwanted fish & weed into the waterways - they are the second tier of the problem:(

Chris

[davez104]

Not something I'm going to argue about with you, as we both agree that these things getting in to our waterways is bad and should never happen. But the industry only brings in what people want and can legally obtain. It is the aquarium keepers who are ultimately responsible for the plants and animals they choose to keep. Being responsible for ones own actions appears to be a dying trend, it's all about someone else being at fault these days.

Fisherman are not totally blame free either. Noxious fish (carp, banded grunter, and tilapia also I believe) have been translocated by fishermen catching/buying them for use as live bait. Aquatic weeds are transported on/in boats and their trailers.

There are many other factors that need to be considered if this country wants to get serious about stopping feral animals/plants. Better education/awareness, along with tougher penalties and more men on the ground to police them would go a long way.

I just think it is a little unfair to level the gun barrel right at the head of the aquarium industry every time there is an outbreak of noxious weed or feral fish. The government needs to step in and do their part to help stop this stuff spreading.

[NAGG]

Not something I'm going to argue about with you, as we both agree that these things getting in to our waterways is bad and should never happen. But the industry only brings in what people want and can legally obtain. It is the aquarium keepers who are ultimately responsible for the plants and animals they choose to keep. Being responsible for ones own actions appears to be a dying trend, it's all about someone else being at fault these days.

Fisherman are not totally blame free either. Noxious fish (carp, banded grunter, and tilapia also I believe) have been translocated by fishermen catching/buying them for use as live bait. Aquatic weeds are transported on/in boats and their trailers.

There are many other factors that need to be considered if this country wants to get serious about stopping feral animals/plants. Better education/awareness, along with tougher penalties and more men on the ground to police them would go a long way.

I just think it is a little unfair to level the gun barrel right at the head of the aquarium industry every time there is an outbreak of noxious weed or feral fish. The government needs to step in and do their part to help stop this stuff spreading.

Not here to argue either ...... & yes the Ferral government should have done a better job in biosecurity in years gone by - In other words the Aquarium industry should never have been allowed to bring these plants into the country in the first place.......... I bet there was no environmental impact study or risk analysis done when someone wanted to bring Salvinia into the country initially.
As far as the Aquarium industry goes - It certainly didn't do a good job in self regulating. So - Yes it is an easy target when these things occur.
Try bringing in Pirana into the country - thats a case of biosecurity at work .8-)

Sorry - whenever a industry introduces a potentially noxious species into the country without the right checks & balances - Ultimately they are the ones that should accept responsibility ....... & not run for cover pleading that we dont know that a client may eventually dump it into the environment when it no longer suits their needs or fancy!.

Chris

[davez104]

Fair enough. I just believe that people need to have the balls to stand up and be responsible for the things they do. We, as consumers, drive the industry to do what it does. It is our fault.

But yes, I understand what you are saying.

I'm not sure on the Piranha situation, but common sense would say they don't have a hope in hell of crossing the border legally. I'm sure they would do quite well in some of our northern rivers.

Dave.

[NAGG]

Fair enough. I just believe that people need to have the balls to stand up and be responsible for the things they do. We, as consumers, drive the industry to do what it does. It is our fault.

But yes, I understand what you are saying.

I'm not sure on the Piranha situation, but common sense would say they don't have a hope in hell of crossing the border legally. I'm sure they would do quite well in some of our northern rivers.

Dave.

Aside from the industry initially - yes you are right ..... people who have these things need to consider the impact of dumping ...... no different to someone letting go pet rabbits or cats in the bush or gardeners dumping their plant clippings - There should be massive fines in place.

Chris

[davez104]

cats in the bush . . . should be massive fines


Amen. Another of my pet hates. People think I hate cats, I actually hate people who own cats, allow them to roam and think that their little angel wouldn't hurt a fly >:(

Dave.

[aussiebasser]

According to my GPS it is 19.8' deeper than it was on January 4th. The shallows are amazing, as are the fish. It's a whole new world out there.
http://www.sweetwaterfishing.com.au/Forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5914.0;attach=1110 1;image

[hairypunt]

I was really interested in hearing about awoonga water levels and how the rain has changed this iconic water way esp when i see a post written buy someone like trev who knows the waterway like the back of his hand. But instead i get half way down the page and have to read some B.S debate started by the mayor of ausfish.

Sorry for the rant trev i always look forward to reading your reports i think its a shame that so many interesting posts get hijacked.

Do you have any pics of the new dam for us brisbanites to have a look at?

I Have not been to the dam for a couple of years now last time i was there i just about needed a stop revive survive break while reversing the trailor down the ramp.

[NAGG]

I was really interested in hearing about awoonga water levels and how the rain has changed this iconic water way esp when i see a post written buy someone like trev who knows the waterway like the back of his hand. But instead i get half way down the page and have to read some B.S debate started by the mayor of ausfish.

Sorry for the rant trev i always look forward to reading your reports i think its a shame that so many interesting posts get hijacked.

Do you have any pics of the new dam for us brisbanites to have a look at?

I Have not been to the dam for a couple of years now last time i was there i just about needed a stop revive survive break while reversing the trailor down the ramp.

Mayor of Ausfish ........ ;D love it!

Hairy ...... If you didn't notice , you just did the same thing ::)

Unlike your good self - my 1 line comment was made in context to the thread by Trev ......... yes a healthy debate followed but finished just as quick ..... no harm done with no personal attacks 8-) - we moved on! - It may have even raised awareness 8-)8-)8-)8-)

Chris

[Awoonga]

I was really interested in hearing about awoonga water levels and how the rain has changed this iconic water way esp when i see a post written buy someone like trev who knows the waterway like the back of his hand. But instead i get half way down the page and have to read some B.S debate started by the mayor of ausfish.

Sorry for the rant trev i always look forward to reading your reports i think its a shame that so many interesting posts get hijacked.

Do you have any pics of the new dam for us brisbanites to have a look at?

I Have not been to the dam for a couple of years now last time i was there i just about needed a stop revive survive break while reversing the trailor down the ramp.
Dear Hairy or is it Mr Punt err whatever. Photos ? yes these where taken when the dam about 80% its gone up a bit since then
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?t=161906 .Just said to the old girl. lets go for a holiday ? That a good idea she said ! where are we going ? Sydney ? Tasmania. l have always wanted to vist Tassie.
What about the south of France..So where are we going dear ? The Bush Camp..:oops: :helpa: Did l say something wrong ?

[Dick Pasfield]

Trev re the salvinia - Salvinia weevil Cyrtobagous salviniae will be the chief control method now I'd expect. Meaning its now part of the waterscape, pity.

As for the inland sea, Awoonga is not that big now that it no longer fits into one of Lake Argyle's back pockets;)

[hairypunt]

Thanks for the pics trev cant believe how differant it looks...
As for the name Mr punt or hairy any of those are fine you can call me susan if it makes you happy really doesn't bother me.

As for the mayor comment, funny i dont see anything in my post directing the remark to you nagg::) but if you think of yourself as the mayor, who am i to crush your dreams;D .

[NAGG]

Thanks for the pics trev cant believe how differant it looks...
As for the name Mr punt or hairy any of those are fine you can call me susan if it makes you happy really doesn't bother me.

As for the mayor comment, funny i dont see anything in my post directing the remark to you nagg::) but if you think of yourself as the mayor, who am i to crush your dreams;D .



I just liked the term - Mayor of Ausfish ....... Funnily enough , I cant see where I may of claimed that title;)

Chris

[Whitto]

Evening Your Worship.

[themissus]

Evening My Lord

[hairypunt]

:o Lookout here come the faithfull followers:o ....right on que.

[NAGG]

:o Lookout here come the faithfull followers:o ....right on que.

ahhh yes , the crew 8-)


Ok ..... I think the thread has now been officially hijacked :D
- sorry Trev

[hairypunt]

I thankyou for your last post nagg as you have pointed out something very true THIS POST HAS BEEN HIJACKED could not agree more infact a perfect example of a hijacked post.

But who is responsible??? It seems that posts 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,16,20,21,22,23,24,25 of this thread, have nothing to do with the original topic theres even mention of pirhanas,feral cats and rabbits and the dumping of plant clippings??? Now check how many of these are written by me.

All i did was throw a couple of "one line" smartass comments in to fan the fire and you/crew reacted as i expected you would.
I thought that someone as smart as yourself and with the life skills you have learnt over the years would know when someone is being a s#*t stirer and when to ignore them. I said to myself before i submited my first reply that if no one reacts i'll leave it alone. This is an example of being blinded by EGO you were so blinded you hijacked a friends thread without even realising.

Imagine if all the negative posts were ignored and all of the ego was left out, we would have an awesome forum where new suggestions, techniques etc could be approched with an open mind and new members would be confident enough to share there ideas without being bombarded buy ego driven nonsence. IMO the freshwater section on this site has turned to rubbish and its a shame to see so many of my fav members have stopped posting because of this issue.


I am sorry to anyone who is offended by what i have posted or anyone who see's this as a personal attack. But i know that i am not the only person that feels this way about the f/w section.

I also would like to say sorry to trev. I respect you as a angler and a person believe it or not i have sat beside and had a drink with you and scotty a few years back at kinchant waters. My friend and i still talk about the storys you and scott told us and are still blown away by them. Sorry for my part in hijacking this post.

Regards kyle.

[alphas]

Bravo Kyle.

And I thought I was the only one that felt that way....

[NAGG]

I thankyou for your last post nagg as you have pointed out something very true THIS POST HAS BEEN HIJACKED could not agree more infact a perfect example of a hijacked post.

But who is responsible??? It seems that posts 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,16,20,21,22,23,24,25 of this thread, have nothing to do with the original topic theres even mention of pirhanas,feral cats and rabbits and the dumping of plant clippings??? Now check how many of these are written by me.

All i did was throw a couple of "one line" smartass comments in to fan the fire and you/crew reacted as i expected you would.
I thought that someone as smart as yourself and with the life skills you have learnt over the years would know when someone is being a s#*t stirer and when to ignore them. I said to myself before i submited my first reply that if no one reacts i'll leave it alone. This is an example of being blinded by EGO you were so blinded you hijacked a friends thread without even realising.

Imagine if all the negative posts were ignored and all of the ego was left out, we would have an awesome forum where new suggestions, techniques etc could be approched with an open mind and new members would be confident enough to share there ideas without being bombarded buy ego driven nonsence. IMO the freshwater section on this site has turned to rubbish and its a shame to see so many of my fav members have stopped posting because of this issue.


I am sorry to anyone who is offended by what i have posted or anyone who see's this as a personal attack. But i know that i am not the only person that feels this way about the f/w section.

I also would like to say sorry to trev. I respect you as a angler and a person believe it or not i have sat beside and had a drink with you and scotty a few years back at kinchant waters. My friend and i still talk about the storys you and scott told us and are still blown away by them. Sorry for my part in hijacking this post.

Regards kyle.

Since we are having a last word here Kyle ::) & I thank you for finally identifying yourself.
Yes the thread has gone south ........ ............. and all apologies to Trev - However unless I'm mistaken .... the slight deviation was still in reference to part of Trevs original post ...... Salvinia - though it was quickly discussed - done & dusted ( without checking still all within the first page).
Kyle .... Thats right , you knew exactly what you were doing when you aimed that shot .:smartass: Did you really expect - no response ? .... of course you didn't ! - thats why you tossed the grenade in........... & have kept throwing.

As for Ego 's .... yes I have one , dont we all ! - though your use of it in reference to me is way off the mark ...... Opinionated (most certainly).

Yes its a shame that some people dont post here anymore - the reality is though some of those same people are not posting on their preferred site as well ....... members come & go...... Some use the site to promote their own cause
Sorry that you feel that the FW section has turned to rubbish - & you are entitled to your opinion.... There would no doubt be people that would agree with you - Fortunately there would be a hell of a lot that will disagree with you too ..... Infact the freshwater section has become stronger with many personal friendships formed - Information is readily shared & help is always offered .... be it to a mate or newby alike. There is no evidence of elitism , people are accepted regardless of their status , achievements whatever .......certainly no homage is paid or expected. - If you don't believe me , just attend one of our gatherings , which by the way are growing from strength to strength - Try finding that elsewhere.
Maybe from an outsider looking in ...... it appears like a clique - but that only comes from the existence of such strong friendships .........



Imagine if all the negative posts were ignored and all of the ego was left out, we would have an awesome forum where new suggestions, techniques etc could be approched with an open mind and new members would be confident enough to share there ideas without being bombarded buy ego driven nonsence. IMO the freshwater section on this site has turned to rubbish and its a shame to see so many of my fav members have stopped posting because of this issue.

Finally .....I find these comments a bit rich coming from such a :curtain:prodigious contributor as your good self

Chris

[hairypunt]

Thankyou nagg,
i have enjoyed this exchange of words.

Ohh yeh before i go i consider myself as a sh!t stirrer....not a contributor.

Kind regards Kyle.

[PaulMark]

This is a very solid section theres a thread on the Condamine,Murray Cod in Texas,Freshwater shrimps,Cania report,Burrendong classic report,Bait for Coopers Creek,Report on the Borumba Bash, theres a wealth of information here,for those who want to look.Its too easy I suppose to zoom in on a particular identity and throw rocks.Unfortunately mate you end up looking like the prat you obviously are.
Paulo (No rabbits they've had their day)

[Awoonga]

Thank you Linesmen, Thank you Ballboys. Game ,Set, and Match. Thread closed