what would u choose? 60 etc or 60 4stroke?

[setthehook]

Hey all
Im looking at maybe upgrading to better motor than my noisy 2 stroke 40hp. Looking at a 2006 evinrude etc 60hp and a yamaha 60hp 4 stroke also 2006. Both are within $500 of each other so im scratching my head a bit.... Im leaning towards the etec but would love to hear what you all think? Cheers!

[Coontakinta]

Depends on what you want to use it for & on.

If slow trolling is ya thing, then personally, I think its hard to go past the 4 stroke. They are so much smoother for this style of thing. However the trade off is the weight and supposed high maintenance costs. So you'll need to consider this when deciding if its suitable for your current hull

If there is little or none of the above my preference would be for the Etec, but again the weight of this maybe higher than the 40 you already have so be wary of this in regard to insurance etc.

[Spaniard_King]

The 60 Yammy is a great engine! It's been a leader in that bracket for a very long time. A simple easy engine to maintain with no hidden issues.

I am not a fan of the Etec, if you want to know why search my username and etec and you will find the reasons why.

[Jeremy]

you can also do a search of international boating forums and find some cons for the 60 etec. I chose a 4 stroke over etec after my research.

Jeremy

[finding_time]

Mate

Just compare the two and your decision will be made for you, the 60 hp e-tec is a 2 cylinder 863cc engine and weighs 109 kg , the Yami 60hp 4 stroke is a 4 cylinder 996 cc engine and weighs 110 kg.

In this range it's no competition at all, the four has got it all over the e-tec. Now if you were looking at the next size up say in the 75 to 90 range the e-tec would be worth considering!

ian

[finding_time]

Ps

I still struggle with the fact that the 60 e-tec is a 2 cylinder engine, i guess it was weight/cost thing but i would jump straight over this engine to the 75hp e-tec ( if i was solely commited to the brand)if the boat could handle it although it's nearly another 30 kg extra! Your current motor is probably around the 80 kg mark so going to the 60 you already adding aroung 30 kg!

[finding_time]

, then personally, I think its hard to go past the 4 stroke. They are so much smoother for this style of thing. However the trade off is the weight and supposed high maintenance costs. So you'll need to consider this when deciding if its suitable for your current hull
.

It's interesting how people assume that the 2 stroke will be much lighter than the four, brp's advertising has paid off i assume?:o The yami 4 stroke is actually a massive 1 kg heavier than the e-tec in this HP and considering you get twice the cylinders that's pretty good imho!

Ian

[White Pointer]

G'day,

Put the new Suzuki 4-stroke 60HP to 90HP range into the equation as well. All the same basic engine and similar weights - which isn't much weight at all.

Regards,

White Pointer

[TJ Bear]

Would go the Yamaha every time in this size as already stated has been the class leader for years with commercial operators having huge hours on these motors without a problem. I have been doing a lot of research on this size motor as I will be purchasing a 60 soon and I have decided on the new Honda BFA60. I have had a 150 etech, 225 honda, 150 yamaha 4-stroke and 150 Yamaga HPDI and many old tech 2 strokes in the days before 4-strokes and by far my personal favorite has been the Honda but the weight in the smaller motors has been a problem for me. Now they have a 110kg 60hp with efi and nmea 2000 Im all over it.

[setthehook]

cheers guys!
To shed more light on my boat and use....
I have a 4.40 makocraft tournament, its rated to 60hp. I have seen other 4.40s the same as mine with 60 four strokes so i know it handles the weight and power. Im looking for quiet and friendly on fuel and a bit of balls.
Use will be general dam use for barra bass etc, i dont troll very much but on days when i have cast myself to death its a nice break.
Also will be used to get to inshore reefs, do some pelagic trolling and a small amount of estuary stuff.
Both dealers claimed equal fuel consumption, both claimed there brand was the choice..... Both claimed they were quiet and reliable. The etec doesnt require a service for 3 years where the four stroke does every year at a few hundred or more dollars a pop. Also im told the etec has more balls?
Cheers all!

[ratbag's]

I have a quinnie 455 topender with a yam 60hp 4st, love it. has run fantastic, no issues. loaded with 3 guys & gear and gets on the level quick. just had a service and all good. have not had an etec, just happy my yammie.

[black runner]

Appart from the fact I use a Yammie F60C and find it an exceptionally smooth and reliable motor, Finding_time has hit the comparison nail on the head. The Yammie will be much smoother and more torquey, and at the same weight is a no brainer front runner. This motor also has the runs on the board both commercially and recreationally.

Cheers

[Dean1]

Ye I love my F 60's they are hard to fault. You would not be dissapointed with the Yammy. Remember you need 2 stroke oil for the Etec and its not cheap so the whole no service thing works out about even I say for $$$. Like the others say the comparison with 2,4 cylinders etc makes it an easy choice. 2 cyl 60 thats hard to imagine, gee they must be working hard those whole 2 cylinders!!!

[BigE]

does anyone value there life & limb so little that they would go to sea with an engine that hasn't been serviced for three years?? sometimes I really wonder what people are thinking.
Hard to go past the 60 yammie in this class. the new zuke should be intresting donk once it has some runs on the board.

BigE

[Pretzil]

Etec.
Shouldnt this be a poll?

[oldboot]

does anyone value there life & limb so little that they would go to sea with an engine that hasn't been serviced for three years??
BigE

From what I hear, they end up in the shop more frequently than that anyway;D .

I recon it would be a hard choice siziki/ yamaha/ honda 4 stroke.

It seems the dealer with the best service dictates the brand in that area.

cheers

[TheSaint]

yamaha four stroke for sure..

[sharkymark2]

I love my 2007 yammie 60 4 stroke but then I'd love any motor that got me out to the fishing grounds without any fuss.
But the sound of the yammie 4 strk starting up :). Just like a BMW starting up ;).
I believe if you think that you can get away with $200 for a yammie service you might be disappointed. Might be ok from an unauthorised service agent.
Any way good luck with your choice.... just have a nice big cushion under your backside as the 60 outwide will certainly foster a few piles :).

[setthehook]

hmmm seems the yamy is a very popular motor with a good rep thanks for the info guys really appreciate it!! will keep you informed as to my decition :)

[whatscracken]

Not even worth debating, Yamaha all the way.

[Bowser]

I have just been down this route and ordered the Yammie. A couple of things you should note. While the power increase is 20 HP the actual increase in power is a 50% upgrade. If the 40 goes, any 60 will have balls in this equation. The Yammie has long been regarded as the ducks nuts in this range although the new challengers from honda and zuke may change that. The Etec is a 2 pot and Evinrude promo mayerial does acknowledge that it does exhibit some vibration, typical of a 2 pot. Economy will be similar on this size boat. The 3 year maintanance free is a bit of a furphy, you still have to check the impellor, gearbox oil etc and you use a bucket load more oil over that period. I would go the 4 pot everytime, it has smoothness, reliability, a long very solid reputation in the commercial role and it is quiet. I haven't heard them side by side but would back the Yam in.

Don't forget there are too parts to the engine rating, the HP on the water and the weight on the trailer. Make sure that you check your compliance plate for both before buying and don't rely on hearsay and what you see others doing. It won't matter aone iota until you make an insurance claim, then you will be turned down flat.

[STUIE63]

as an etec owner I would buy the yammie . the 60 4 stroke yammie is one sweet motor I had one on a previous boat . as for the bull$hit of the huge amounts of oil that etecs use this is crap in the smaller sizes I have a three year old 90 and am on my fourth bottle of oil for 250 hours

[Wahoo]

As good as the E-Tec is, i would never buy a second hand one, The fact that PPL dont get them look at for 3 yrs is a joke, Yamaha is my vote


Daz

[levinge]

I'm with you Daz, plenty of mates have had the etecs back to the shop for repairs, but funny enough not one service among them...

Go the 4 stroke any day....

[Jeremy]

Is the yamaha really the stand out of the 60 4 strokes? I got a merc 60 4 stroke for $1500 less than I was quoted for a yammie. I believe they are almost identical aren't they?

Jeremy

[matt fraser]

I've got a Yamaha F60 on a Bluefin Trooper 4.75. Great motor, no faults 150 hours. Does 50 - 55km/h depending on load.

I took it in for its second annual service last month at it hurt more than expected, didn't get any change from $600.

Matt

[FNQCairns]

the yammie.

cheers fnq

[ped cairns]

easy yamaha

[setthehook]

Thankyou all again!
Went to Yamaha today and they took my motor as a deposit on the Yamaha F60. They also made sure it suited my boat. So i went with the yamaha!!!! They gave me an awsome trade in and will fit it cables the works at no charge! Very happy
no w i just have to wait a few weeks for my tax return to come back so i can go pick up the new motor......no fishing for a few weeks is going to kill me esp when those barra are on the chew.............
So cheers you all played a major part in my decision!
Rob.

[Wahoo]

Congrats Rob, should be a sweet motor, make sure you do a water test with them, engine height right, prop right, and so on

Daz

[dfox]

Thankyou all again!
Went to Yamaha today and they took my motor as a deposit on the Yamaha F60. They also made sure it suited my boat. So i went with the yamaha!!!! They gave me an awsome trade in and will fit it cables the works at no charge! Very happy
no w i just have to wait a few weeks for my tax return to come back so i can go pick up the new motor......no fishing for a few weeks is going to kill me esp when those barra are on the chew.............
So cheers you all played a major part in my decision!
Rob.

Good choice! Youll know why after the first trip ... foxy

[PAUL-H]

Good choice there rob,u wont go wrong with the yammy,and the back up service from the boys down there at yamaha is great they bent over backwards to sort out a few things for me.
I'll try and take a day off and we will go for a flick to feed ur barra fettish!!
keep u going till u get ur rig back on the water.
cheers Paul

[setthehook]

lol cheers mate!! You have the yammy 60?
let me know if you are keen one day mate :)

[PAUL-H]

always keen mate just a time factor for me at the momment joys of working for yourself.I have the yammy 80-4 banger,more than happy with it.
ill be in touch soon mate.

[oldboot]

just as amatter of interest... whats a yammy 60 4/ go for these days?

cheers

[black runner]

I've got a Yamaha F60 on a Bluefin Trooper 4.75. Great motor, no faults 150 hours. Does 50 - 55km/h depending on load.

I took it in for its second annual service last month at it hurt more than expected, didn't get any change from $600.

Matt


Sounds excessive Matt, what extra did they do for that?

Cheers - Fred

[setthehook]

as mentioned i got a second hand motor but its 7 grand. they also quoted me between 200 and 250 for service in the future.