View Full Version : Bag limit on bream this year?
tigermullet
01-06-2009, 07:20 PM
Is the bag limit of 30 for bream in force this year?
I thought that it wasn't due to come in until 2010 and the first information seemed to reflect this but now the DPI web site shows that the size only is to be increased to 25cm from next year.
Pistol_P
01-06-2009, 07:27 PM
That is right mate......25cm size limit comes in next year but the bag limit is already in.
Pete
Richard
01-06-2009, 07:34 PM
Yeah, from the latest booklet -
23 min (25cm from 1 March 2010) Combined limit of 30 in total of pikey and yellowfin bream and tarwhine
Chamelion
01-06-2009, 07:36 PM
The bag limit is still far too high... 10 per person per day is ample.
Richard
01-06-2009, 08:03 PM
Yeah I reckon it's still too high as well.
One good thing though is that the bag limit of 30 in an "in possession" limit, not per day. That means the ones you have with you in your esky and the ones you have at home in the fridde/freezer.
tigermullet
01-06-2009, 08:15 PM
Thanks everyone. That means from now the fishing becomes very easy with lots of time left for relaxing or whatever.
Thirty only - a few hours and the bream season is over.
I'm just about to head out for three weeks. Might take a bunch of books. Or is knitting in for fishermen?
CreelReaper
01-06-2009, 09:43 PM
Mate just take your portable stove with you and have a feed on the run....
kercus
01-06-2009, 10:00 PM
Tigermullet,
The in- possession limit for bream ( & tarwhine ) will not be enforced until 1st March next year owing to the wrong information being given to the public some months ago .
kercus:D
Richard
01-06-2009, 10:02 PM
You know you don't have to keep every legal fish you catch, what about fishing just for the enjoyment of it ?
PinHead
01-06-2009, 11:02 PM
and Richard..what about fishing for a feed also..or several feeds?? If it is legal then all is good.
sleepygreg
01-06-2009, 11:06 PM
The mind boggles,and the back has already started aching, just at the thought of having to clean 30 bream......especially at the ridiculously small legal length. Just a thought......a family of five goes fishing and catches their bag limit......thats 150 bream.......a) is this possible.....i think possible but not probable, b) WTF are you going to do with that many bream.
Not having a go at anyone....the law is the law...and if you are legally entitled to take your catch I have no issue with you, and good on you for having the skills/tenacity/opportunity to do so. My issue is with the idiots that formulate these laws.
Sorry....didnt mean to hijack the post.
Greg
bennykenny
02-06-2009, 08:21 AM
You know you don't have to keep every legal fish you catch, what about fishing just for the enjoyment of it ?
and Richard..what about fishing for a feed also..or several feeds?? If it is legal then all is good.
i think what Richard was getting at was, after you catch your limit, you can still fish just for the pure enjoyment of fishing, i know for one that im not taking up knitting:P
tigermullet
02-06-2009, 08:27 AM
What to do with so many bream? Easy - fillet and skin and freeze. If properly done the fillets will last for many months (or longer) - nor does it take long to do. Filleting 30 bream is just nothing.
My usual practice is to catch sufficient bream in the season to last until almost the next season. My family won't eat anything else. If a Jew is caught I have to give it away. Nor do I bother with flathead etc.
Each to his own, I guess, but fishing for fun (catch and release) seems a bit cruel to me. It is still relatively easy to catch 100 bream per session but why bother putting in the effort and stressing seventy fish for no real reason.
One bonus with the catch limit is that there won't be a need to pump 300 yabbies per day. Just think, 15 minutes of pumping and you will have enough yabbies to catch the new 'in possession' rules.
Life gets easier every day. I will be doing a lot of reading and relaxing so it's not all bad.
FNQCairns
02-06-2009, 09:05 AM
Sheesh! ay!! TM, where where you during the PC revolution and the subsequent battlehead of well dumbing down Ozi society:-[.......what is known you cannot speak.......competent behaviours known to enable understood freedoms for all individuals to do no harm should be principle's well buried deep in your consciousness by now....time to smarten up and step to the beat of our regulators and their enforcement minions drum, no more of this free thought it is simply not appropriate in this country and is out of place.
Try this mantra......MMMMM one forced vote, no individual has personal value without position MMmmmm, and fall into line behind the controlling moderates for our great unwashed mass of sheeple will ya! Don't fight the cult, join us you will retain 50% of the basic do no harm freedoms in life you had 25 years ago and it will be the ideological 50% chosen only by Oh! so very few;D:-X8-)
cheers fnq
whitingkiller
02-06-2009, 09:34 AM
TM, have been waiting for one of your reports all last month!
good luck on your trip and please post your report as it helps me with my winter "game plan" for that area.
Chamelion
02-06-2009, 11:08 AM
What to do with so many bream? Easy - fillet and skin and freeze. If properly done the fillets will last for many months (or longer) - nor does it take long to do. Filleting 30 bream is just nothing.
My usual practice is to catch sufficient bream in the season to last until almost the next season. My family won't eat anything else. If a Jew is caught I have to give it away. Nor do I bother with flathead etc.
Each to his own, I guess, but fishing for fun (catch and release) seems a bit cruel to me. It is still relatively easy to catch 100 bream per session but why bother putting in the effort and stressing seventy fish for no real reason.
One bonus with the catch limit is that there won't be a need to pump 300 yabbies per day. Just think, 15 minutes of pumping and you will have enough yabbies to catch the new 'in possession' rules.
Life gets easier every day. I will be doing a lot of reading and relaxing so it's not all bad.
So, go fishing once every couple of weeks and top up your supplies? Surely you don't eat 30 fish per person per fortnight.
The other option is to cut out the effort required and just purchase your fish from a shop/market, or do you actually enjoy the fishing? If so, see my previous paragraph.
tigermullet
02-06-2009, 05:48 PM
The problem, Chamelion, is that in winter I normally spend two to three weeks on the boat with a one week break in between. So I have a lot of time on my hands.
Every few days I meet my wife at the ramp and hand over the catch.
The winter season is very short. For the remainder of the year I just go to the boat and walk the beaches, relax and, maybe, catch a few whiting and sand crabs for a feed on the boat.
Even though I might catch a lot of bream in the season, it's not a great deal when averaged over the year.
Because of the new regulations I will just have to comply whether I agree with them or not.
We never buy fish from the shop/market because we have never had to.
Fishing is something I enjoy very much. These new regulations will see me trying for a greater variety. I can do still do the numbers and will make up for the lack of bream with gar, dart, tailer, luderick etc., and hope that the family will appreciate fish other than bream. They haven't before but I live in hope.
tigermullet
02-06-2009, 05:54 PM
TM, have been waiting for one of your reports all last month!
good luck on your trip and please post your report as it helps me with my winter "game plan" for that area.
I'll try WK though some might not welcome a healthy report.
From what I've heard, the bream are beginning to run so bagging out should not be a problem anywhere at the Pin. Being lazy I prefer Tigermullet channel but Kalinga should be fired up and, perhaps, even better.
Lots of bait fish are around so the Jew should also be on the prowl.
Good luck.
tigermullet
02-06-2009, 06:16 PM
Sheesh! ay!! TM, where where you during the PC revolution and the subsequent battlehead of well dumbing down Ozi society:-[.......what is known you cannot speak.......competent behaviours known to enable understood freedoms for all individuals to do no harm should be principle's well buried deep in your consciousness by now....time to smarten up and step to the beat of our regulators and their enforcement minions drum, no more of this free thought it is simply not appropriate in this country and is out of place.
Try this mantra......MMMMM one forced vote, no individual has personal value without position MMmmmm, and fall into line behind the controlling moderates for our great unwashed mass of sheeple will ya! Don't fight the cult, join us you will retain 50% of the basic do no harm freedoms in life you had 25 years ago and it will be the ideological 50% chosen only by Oh! so very few;D:-X8-)
cheers fnq
The world is absolutely full of arseholes wanting everyone else to join in the programme, in other words, their agenda, no matter how deluded it might be.
Why they so earnestly seek to foist their ideas on to others is a mystery to me.
Politically correct attitudes, global warming or climate change seems to be the new religion and no one dare criticise the stance without being classed as a heretic.
However, I'm slowly becoming more tolerant of dark complexioned, Catholic, Victorians with confused sexual persuasion, studying Sociology at Monash.
Given that, perhaps I am not all bad.;D
whitingkiller
03-06-2009, 08:48 AM
TM, Kalinga was very poor last weekend, didn't help that i was there on the run out tide and water was very dirty, tried TM for jew but not even a run...hopefully this improves when winter gets here..plenty of small bream in TM if someone was after a feed
TM, don't let anyone deter you from reporting, there's a lot of us who love to read them so as long as you're within your legal limitations, which at this point is 23cm and NO baglimit, then post away! I know under the 'Reports' section, the Mod's are toughening up on unpleasentaries targeted at 'legal' activities...
I too have never understood the art of enjoying sinking a sharp object into a live creature, dragging it in against its will, manhandling it while it gasps for (fish) breath, then putting it back in with a scar/hole in its mouth for the shock of its life - and all for the pleasure of enjoyment?!?!?! And this is acceptable but taking a feed (regardless of quantity) is not?!
Take Care T
PinHead
03-06-2009, 04:03 PM
T1..current regulation are 23cm minimum size with a combined bag limit of 30 (bream and tarwhine).
Stroadman
03-06-2009, 05:22 PM
Good to see you're up to speed with the current regs T1.........::)not!
Take care,
Heretic.
tigermullet
03-06-2009, 06:19 PM
Tigermullet,
The in- possession limit for bream ( & tarwhine ) will not be enforced until 1st March next year owing to the wrong information being given to the public some months ago .
kercus:D
I think that Kercus is correct because I remember reading on the DPI website earlier this year that the size and bag limits on Bream would not be introduced until 1st March 2010.
By extension, that would also make T1 correct
That information has been withdrawn but, until a few days ago, I remained convinced that 1st March 2010 was the date.
Tomorrow, if I can find the time I will phone the Boating and Fishing Patrol just to be sure.
I expect to get a load of public service speak but that's ok because I am very used to interpreting that crap.
Being an ex public servant has its advantages.;D
Richard
03-06-2009, 06:33 PM
Hi TG,
Probably the easiest way to tell is have a look at the latest Fisheries Regulations 2008 (22 May 2009 reprint), Schedule 2, Part 3 Fish regulated by number separately and in combination. Page 451 lists the rules as they stand now for "pikey bream, tarwhine or yellowfin bream or a combination of these fish" (http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGISLTN/CURRENT/F/FisherR08.pdf)
Whether or not the QLD Boating and Fisheries Patrol are allowing a grace period as stated by Kercus is something you'll have to ask them though. Not sure about that one.
It's the new size limits (ie. 25cm) that are the ones changing in March next year.
cheers
Richard
ssab1
03-06-2009, 06:44 PM
You know you don't have to keep every legal fish you catch, what about fishing just for the enjoyment of it ?
some of us like to eat fish if you just like to catch them fine but dont tell us all the time.if you think 30 is to much go tell the dpi mean while I to will enjoy the short fishing sessions and take up knitting.cheers alex
ssab1
03-06-2009, 06:54 PM
So, go fishing once every couple of weeks and top up your supplies? Surely you don't eat 30 fish per person per fortnight.
The other option is to cut out the effort required and just purchase your fish from a shop/market, or do you actually enjoy the fishing? If so, see my previous paragraph.
think its time to find a new site this ones full of defacto greenies, with reports like these fish hooks will be soon banned.
Richard
03-06-2009, 06:55 PM
I like eating them too, i just don't stop fishing though after I've caught enough to eat. I'm must be one of those sadistic people who like catching fish for the fun of it.
Most of the time i just love the places fishing gets me, couldn't care less sometimes if i catch a fish or not.
I think this thread is getting a bit heated when it was never meant to be. If you want to go catch your bag limit, thats fine. The bag limits are in place to help protect the fishery to an extent. I would rather take a precautionary approach to fisheries management and have some fish for my kids to catch in the future.
also, I don't eat a lot of fish so i personally think the bag limits are too high (ie. they wouldnt affect me much). TG (and his family) eat quite a bit of fish by the sounds of it so he might think they are ok, and thats ok too. Just peoples personally points of view. Nothing to get riled up about.
Richard
yellowbeard
04-06-2009, 08:49 AM
You bloody cane toads get too much of a good thing. NSW has a 20 bream bag limit. Bloody whingers; and your glamour Origin football team didn't look too flash last night either. The rumour is that Bill Harrigan can now eat free in any seafood restaurant in QLD after inventing some microscopic blade of grass that Jarryd Hayne supposedly stepped on when you fiddled us out of Origin 1.
Disclaimer:
The opinions of Yellowbeard are not necessarily those of any sane person.
whitingkiller
04-06-2009, 09:09 AM
T1 - you are wrong PAL!!..bag limit of 30 per person in possession came in march this year, the minimum size is increasing to 25 cms march 2010...
TM - go and catch your LEGAL bag limit and post your results on this site mate, as i, and others who have read this post and are shaking our heads at these "high & mighty" do-gooders, will APPRECIATE the feedback..
maybe these guys that are against bag limits have never got there themselves????
Well there you bloody go then! The last info i had on this was that the Bag Limit wasn't being implemented until 03/2010... Can't remember the last time i caught 30 reasonable bream to keep anyway so no danger for me here...
WK, good one PAL! Matey, i won't mention how up to speed you were on the new reg's in your own backyard then huh?! PML, Buddy! I'm sure your CUZZIE BRO is upto speed... PML!!!!!
Take Care T
whitingkiller
04-06-2009, 11:02 AM
sometimes i think i tell you to much T !!
But you are dead right!!...2 lines? 4 lines? to close to the bank? can i throw my catnet here???...all i want to do is go fishing!!
CUZZIE BRO JIMMY is a legend, you ask him, he will tell you.
only guy i know that takes a mirror fishing with him!
PML MATEY, RIGHTO PAL!!~
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