New sea jay plate boat

[tin can marlin]

I read the latest F&b today and i must say i was impressed with the story on the sea jay plate centre console has wnyone been for a ride in one of seen one in the flesh. I spoke to Whanye at stones and he said that he was that impressed he has ordered 2 for stock and he is a bar cruser dealer so they must have a bit of faith ordering 2 big boats in these times for stock.

[backlash08]

havnt seen them, are they a price leader for a platey, i.e lower cost that BC?

[Wahoo]

they are making one hell of a plate boat, there long and lats are welded closer than most plate builders, price.....5.3m @ 58K, very nice finish

Daz

[nickstock]

Hey Daz,

They are not a bad looking boat hey!
I was quoted 58K from Mitchell's Marine in Cairns but have since found out they are about 8K cheaper in Brisbane.

Transport must be dear to Cairns lol!

Nick

[Wahoo]

Hey Daz,

They are not a bad looking boat hey!
I was quoted 58K from Mitchell's Marine in Cairns but have since found out they are about 8K cheaper in Brisbane.

Transport must be dear to Cairns lol!

Nick

G'day Nick, that 58k price was at the boat show "special", i can get a 7m plate boat landed here from WA for 8k

Daz

[thelump]

Is it just me or is 58K or even 50K a hell of a lot for a 5.3m CC:o

[Wahoo]

Is it just me or is 58K or even 50K a hell of a lot for a 5.3m CC:o


no, not just you, bit pricey for my liking also

[SgBFish]

Yeh especially when there is a Haines Signature 542cc for 35K in the for sale section!!!!!!

[sid_fishes]

or maybe a black pearl, that is all plate and ready to go

[Systemic]

Hey Tin Can
Didn't know Sea Jay did a plate boat new they did some pressed.
Any Ideas what thickness the bottom sheets are.
Thanks Lee.

[colo]

no, not just you, bit pricey for my liking also
I have spent a bit of time looking at plate consoles and really like the sea jay 6.8 I found the price of the sea jay to be very comparitive when you compare apples with apples, around 80k with a 4 stroke, and i special like the large fuel cappacity (360ltrs) of the sejay compared to other models and the folding T top for storage resons. I also saw the write up and was also very impressed. I missed out on getting a run in this boat when it was it brisbane as it has been brought by there darwin dealer and is on its way up there so i have been buy another dealer. As for the 5.3m I also had a quick look at that but it was to small for what i wanted, i think its a fair price when you look whats in it. You can tell buy the hull weight of almost 800kg which means theres alot of structure under that floor, and puts you in tandam trailer market whitch all bumps up the package price. Plus its 5mm bottoms 4mm sides whitch most others of this size are not.

[swift]

havnt seen them, are they a price leader for a platey, i.e lower cost that BC?




Hi Backlash,

I can tell you that we are not cheaper than a Barcrusher...... and are not trying to be. By we I mean I work at Sea Jay Boats. What we are trying to do with our new plate range is build a top quality Plate Boat that is strong as an ox and looks good. Unfortunately, those 2 attributes don't tend to lead to a cheap boat. But we believe that we built a top quality product that is reliable, safe and something that you would be proud to own.

I have seen a couple of threads (on Ausfish) that our first model (the 5.3m Preda-King) is too expensive, and to be fair, it is a lot compared to many other plate boats out there. The 2 main reasons for this is how strong we have built it and the quality finish it has. You only have to look at the 5.3m dry weight to see how strong it is. The 5.3m Preda-King weighs in at 797kg. That is up to 250kg heavier than some of our competitors (and no, I won't name names... but just have a look at their web sites some don't even list their dry hull weight....ever wonder why?). This is because it is has 5mm Bottoms & Transom, 4mm sides (competitors only have 4mm bottoms & 3mm sides), 5mm longitudinal stringers and 4mm solid bulkheads spaced at 400mm apart. We know that other leading brands bulkheads are out to 600mm apart. With out being biased, I know what I would prefer. I am also not here to knock other brands as there are some teriffic plate boats on the market. It is just that people make comments without knowing the facts.


As you a probably aware, manufacturers don't like to post comments on here as it tends to open up negative comments and complaints, but I do tire of reading posts from some (and I only mean some.....many are very interesting and helpful.... I even learned to throw a castnet from advice off this site) individuals that obviously don't have the full picture and make damaging comments.

Sorry Backlash..... I started to answer your question and started to ramble. I guess a quick finish would be while our 5.3m Preda-King is on the dearer side of the market (for reasons I explained earlier) our larger models eg. the 6.8 and soon the 5.9m are very comparable when you are looking at the Hull price. When you add a motor and trailer, the prices vary dramatically.

[jake0]

Colo, i thought you had a 7.3m sea jay? do you work for this mob?

[len solis]

well said Swift

[colo]

Colo, i thought you had a 7.3m sea jay? do you work for this mob?
No don't work for them, and yeah i do have a 7.3 console have had for quit a few years, just looking at upgrading and also down scale a bit at the same time. I also a have one of there smaller dinghy's as well.

[jake0]

No don't work for them, and yeah i do have a 7.3 console have had for quit a few years, just looking at upgrading and also down scale a bit at the same time. I also a have one of there smaller dinghy's as well.


ta colo, i have seen a few other pics of these boats floating about on A/F, they look good, how do they handle the
chop? well i take it, nearly 60K for a 5.3 is a bit pricey thou, would you think?

[colo]

ta colo, i have seen a few other pics of these boats floating about on A/F, they look good, how do they handle the
chop? well i take it, nearly 60K for a 5.3 is a bit pricey thou, would you think?
Yeh it handles the chop really well. Pesonaly if i was to spend that much I would probaly step up to something a bit bigger. But in saying that i can kinda see were the extra dollars are, but thats just my opinion .

[swift]

ta colo, i have seen a few other pics of these boats floating about on A/F, they look good, how do they handle the
chop? well i take it, nearly 60K for a 5.3 is a bit pricey thou, would you think?


Another person has already said that they received a quote for $50K..... a bit different than 60k. Saying it is a bit pricey is fine, but what other 5.3m plate package are you comparing it to? Is it the same Hp?(and engine manufacturer for that matter), is it the same trailer? are you getting the same electronics?

Just these 3 items alone can make a difference in price packaging well over $10 000.

[Wahoo]

Another person has already said that they received a quote for $50K..... a bit different than 60k. Saying it is a bit pricey is fine, but what other 5.3m plate package are you comparing it to? Is it the same Hp?(and engine manufacturer for that matter), is it the same trailer? are you getting the same electronics?

Just these 3 items alone can make a difference in price packaging well over $10 000.
i think jake0 said nearly 60k, your show price was 58k no electronics tinka trailer and a 115 yamy 4st............but hey, what matters is, its a nice looking boat and this got you some good advertising

Daz

[Fido]

I have no doubt they will be a good boat.

However the proof is in the Deadrise at the Transom. I have found no specs on that matter.

[siegfried]

Is it just me or is 58K or even 50K a hell of a lot for a 5.3m CC:o
No mate its not just you and they aint a bit pricey, just downright %^$#@! DEAR for a little plate boat that will go bang. Rule no 1in boat buildin=there be no substitute for the deadrise my brothers;D

[swift]

No mate its not just you and they aint a bit pricey, just downright %^$#@! DEAR for a little plate boat that will go bang. Rule no 1in boat buildin=there be no substitute for the deadrise my brothers;D


It is obvious that you haven't been for a ride in the 5.3 as you would know that it doesn't go bang. It rides nothing like a pressed tinnie. Every Independent boat test we had (3 mag writers that aren't backwards in telling us how it performs and a boat test from Yamaha motors) all couldn't believe that a boat this small was so quite. Not to mention the wave jumping we did in our test (check out our website for pictures and running video for a better idea).

The 5.3m has a rising deadrise which starts at 17.5deg from the transom. the new 6.8m Preda-King starts at 19deg from the transom.

Hope this helps.

[Wahoo]

Swift, most of the glass boat boys have not been in a well built plate boat, so they have no idea on how they ride, for crying out loud, give me any glass boat and i will make it bang that hard that it would make any teeth turn into crumbs, and the spine will end up 3 inches shorter than when they headed out, like i said, they have no idea

Daz

[swift]

Swift, most of the glass boat boys have not been in a well built plate boat, so they have no idea on how they ride, for crying out loud, give me any glass boat and i will make it bang that hard that it would make any teeth turn into crumbs, and end up 3 inches shorter than when they headed out, like i said, they have no idea

Daz


Hi Wahoo...... I think your dead right. By no means am I saying that every plate boat is soft riding. I have been in some over 5.0m that were harsh riding (putting it nicely), but it really comes down to design. You definitely can't say that every boat rides the same... because they don't. I go 20mile out fishing in a mates glass boat a couple of times a year and while I think it rides nicely, there has been days where we hit the water that hard that I thought we caved the bottoms in.

I know that there are some impresively built plate boats out there but I can only say for certain that our new Sea Jay plate xtreme range definately rival any glass boat out there (in ride that is). DOn't just take my word for it, have a look at the boat test in the latest F & B mag and see what they have to say.

[Reel Blue]

I haven't read too many boat tests that ripped the ride of any boat.

[siegfried]

Swift, most of the glass boat boys have not been in a well built plate boat, so they have no idea on how they ride, for crying out loud, give me any glass boat and i will make it bang that hard that it would make any teeth turn into crumbs, and the spine will end up 3 inches shorter than when they headed out, like i said, they have no idea

Daz
CRAP he who decieves himself does just that: matey done 100s or hrs in bcs ,sea quests super vees etc and guess what ,if Im gunna fork out 80-100k it,d wanna ride a whole lot better then any of them-maybe you blokes have some sort of "super tinny"...read the seajay blurb "easy planing and stable;translation Bangs like s#$t house door in cyclone

[Systemic]

I Agree with Siegfried
You need that 23degree for the ride if your going offshore.
Carn't think of the name of the company in north QLD that were building a Stabie type boat but with a 23 d deadrise!
Saw it on a fishing show several weeks ago.
Never favored the stabie but didn't mind the look of these.
Lee

[Fido]

As stated:

The 5.3m has a rising deadrise which starts at 17.5deg from the transom. The new 6.8m Preda-King starts at 19deg from the transom.

If this is the case and can be confirmed by an electric angle measurer which are readily available from Trade Tools etc then both boats should ride and perform quite well.

[siegfried]

ocean cylinder, ugly as a hatfull..but effective Fido the old fashioned poop buckets people used to keep under the bed had more than 17.5 deg DR, stable yes, soft ?..doubt it. ;DFMD Noble 6.8s are 23-24 and when they come down on that double chine it makes ya motherin law feel sorry for ya

[colo]

CRAP he who decieves himself does just that: matey done 100s or hrs in bcs ,sea quests super vees etc and guess what ,if Im gunna fork out 80-100k it,d wanna ride a whole lot better then any of them-maybe you blokes have some sort of "super tinny"...read the seajay blurb "easy planing and stable;translation Bangs like s#$t house door in cyclone
100sof hour in all these boats? gee you must get to go fishing a hell of allot. Haines hunter and signature both have 21deg and the cruises craft 20deg. And most boats these days have a rising dead rise and you don't need an electric angle measurer to check this, just look and see if the chine is running parallel with the keel if it does you don't have a rising dead rise, and if it heads up hill from the keel then you do.

[siegfried]

Tell me Im wrong then, dont just try and justify your purchase

[disorderly]

Tell me Im wrong then

Didnt you buy one of the original poptimax's ...if thats not wrong then what is Mr Expert..::);D

[colo]

Tell me Im wrong then, dont just try and justify your purchase
I don't need to justify any purchase! I haven't been for a run in the new sea jay and I'm pretty sure you haven't either. So we can all have our opinions but it doesn't mean sh*t until you have actually had a run in the boat your commenting on. And I'm pretty sure that the fellas from F&B who made the comments have been in a bigger variety boats than the both of us combined

[siegfried]

Well thats got a lot to do with this topic ay, so what were saying is that" top shelf plateys" are in the same league as 6mt edencrafts ,233s patriots or big cruise crafts , I say crap, tell me Im wrong, and I have no hesitation in admitting to owning a lemon be it boat motor car wife or dog ...unlike some (BTW when was the last time F&B said anything bad about anything)::) :P

[colo]

Well thats got a lot to do with this topic ay, so what were saying is that" top shelf plateys" are in the same league as 6mt edencrafts ,233s patriots or big cruise crafts , I say crap, tell me Im wrong, and I have no hesitation in admitting to owning a lemon be it boat motor car wife or dog ...unlike some
I think you are missing the point have YOU been for a ride in this particular sea jay. NO. Neither have i so neither can comment good or bad. Peter Webster has so his comments mean more than the bloke who just thinks he No's best.

[Braddles]

Is it just me or is 58K or even 50K a hell of a lot for a 5.3m CC:o


I agree.

I think boats generally are wayyyy over priced for what they are....

[nickstock]

Considering how well regarded Blue Water boats are and the fact that they are selling smick 5.3 centre consoles with four stroke yamahas, and electrics for 43K there is no way that I could justify an extra 15 odd grand, for a mass produced factory plate boat.

[swift]

I read the latest F&b today and i must say i was impressed with the story on the sea jay plate centre console has wnyone been for a ride in one of seen one in the flesh. I spoke to Whanye at stones and he said that he was that impressed he has ordered 2 for stock and he is a bar cruser dealer so they must have a bit of faith ordering 2 big boats in these times for stock.


Hey Tin Can.... I bet you didn't think asking a simple question like if anyone had been for a ride on the boat in the latest F & B Mag (which by the way is the 6.8m Preda-King) would cause a bit of a stir. Funny thing is, after 36 replies, no-one has answered this question yet..... so let me be the one to answer you.

No-one from the general public has yet been for a test ride in this particular boat. We have had 3 independent boat tests done so far (as you have seen so far in the latest F & B mag) as well as Yamaha doing their own testing. Yamaha has had the 6.8m Preda-King for a little over a month and it is only now being delivered to our Darwin Dealer to go on sale. SO I guess people from darwin will be the first to get it out on the water and have a play. To see the Yamaha water tests, have a look at either the Yamaha or SeaJay website as the results are posted there.

Just for interest, we should have our new 6.8m Cabin Boat (yet to be named) ready for display at the Brisbane International Boat Show.

Hope this answered your question. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask :)

[dec0guy]

I want one! Too bad my wallet is a bit empty at the moment

[siegfried]

Hey Tin Can.... I bet you didn't think asking a simple question like if anyone had been for a ride on the boat in the latest F & B Mag (which by the way is the 6.8m Preda-King) would cause a bit of a stir. Funny thing is, after 36 replies, no-one has answered this question yet..... so let me be the one to answer you.

No-one from the general public has yet been for a test ride in this particular boat. We have had 3 independent boat tests done so far (as you have seen so far in the latest F & B mag) as well as Yamaha doing their own testing. Yamaha has had the 6.8m Preda-King for a little over a month and it is only now being delivered to our Darwin Dealer to go on sale. SO I guess people from darwin will be the first to get it out on the water and have a play. To see the Yamaha water tests, have a look at either the Yamaha or SeaJay website as the results are posted there.

Just for interest, we should have our new 6.8m Cabin Boat (yet to be named) ready for display at the Brisbane International Boat Show.

Hope this answered your question. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask :)
Mate,stand back look in the mirror and slowly say..."it is a mass produced(small scale ,yes) plate boat with a flat ar$e and will perform accordingly,

[siegfried]

And do you really need to test it? Is it really that new, innovative, ground breakingly special for the money and value for money is a pretty big ,perhaps the biggest consideration with any purchase....so boorras to ya;D

[Portacol]

Yes, I think he should test it. I would be very intertested in his then experienced opinion of it.

[colo]

Mate,stand back look in the mirror and slowly say..."it is a mass produced(small scale ,yes) plate boat with a flat ar$e and will perform accordingly,
Mate you just seem to be a real shat stirrer don't you. I though this site was for informative ideas and thoughts, not just to slag of at every thing you don't like. You seem to like your glass boats and thats fine but thats just your opinion and theres a lot of us out there that like plate, not to mention have a look how many plate builders there are compared to glass. You seem to be a real expert on the subject of how a boat should ride and be designed maybe you should start building them and show us all how much you really no.

[tin can marlin]

I must say i did ask if anyone has had a good look at these rigs and the question was put out there as i feel they make one of the best pressed boats around so taking that onboard i wanted to know how the plate boat was set up i didn't want to know about how good glass boats are and custom plate builders are etc so if you want to slag of start a different thread as i want to hear facts not fiction based on you have never been in one etc. Cheers Mark

[PinHead]

there are so many makes and models of boats on the market..in various materials..if someone likes a boat he buys it...it really does not matter whether anyone else likes it

[siegfried]

Mate you just seem to be a real shat stirrer don't you. I though this site was for informative ideas and thoughts, not just to slag of at every thing you don't like. You seem to like your glass boats and thats fine but thats just your opinion and theres a lot of us out there that like plate, not to mention have a look how many plate builders there are compared to glass. You seem to be a real expert on the subject of how a boat should ride and be designed maybe you should start building them and show us all how much you really no.
So who is the Sea Jay dealer ,you or Swifty;D ;D ;D

[GBC]

Just had a look at a report on one and I've got to ask - Is the binnacle control mounted smack bang in the middle of the console just a brain fart or is there a thought process behind it?
Pretty looking boat
Nowhere in the report could I see a reference to deadrise - is it really 17 odd and still got a reverse chine?

[swift]

Just had a look at a report on one and I've got to ask - Is the binnacle control mounted smack bang in the middle of the console just a brain fart or is there a thought process behind it?
Pretty looking boat
Nowhere in the report could I see a reference to deadrise - is it really 17 odd and still got a reverse chine?


Hi GBC,

The Binnacle control will be mounted on the right hand side as std unless ordered otherwise (It can be put where ever you like).

The deadrise on the 6.8m Preda-king is 19deg at the transom through to 33deg at two thirds of the Boats length and yes, it features a reverse chine.

[Wahoo]

I Agree with Siegfried
You need that 23degree for the ride if your going offshore.



yes you are correct, but that is just for the ride, would one think that over 22* the boat becomes a real pig when anchored? we are talking fishing boats aint we

Daz

[siegfried]

True Daz but its nice to get there without f%$#^&g yourself up, now ,hoo sells em Colo OR Swifty, If anyone is gunna push a product on an open forum that they are involved in(and theres nothing wrong with that) it should be disclosed. BTW a very good mate of mine has been selling them for years and their little pressed boats IMO are as good or better then anything else in their class

[dodgyone]

Hey Tin Can.... I bet you didn't think asking a simple question like if anyone had been for a ride on the boat in the latest F & B Mag (which by the way is the 6.8m Preda-King) would cause a bit of a stir. Funny thing is, after 36 replies, no-one has answered this question yet..... so let me be the one to answer you.

No-one from the general public has yet been for a test ride in this particular boat. We have had 3 independent boat tests done so far (as you have seen so far in the latest F & B mag) as well as Yamaha doing their own testing. Yamaha has had the 6.8m Preda-King for a little over a month and it is only now being delivered to our Darwin Dealer to go on sale. SO I guess people from darwin will be the first to get it out on the water and have a play. To see the Yamaha water tests, have a look at either the Yamaha or SeaJay website as the results are posted there.

Just for interest, we should have our new 6.8m Cabin Boat (yet to be named) ready for display at the Brisbane International Boat Show.

Hope this answered your question. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask :)

So is the dealer replacing the Yammy with a Honda?

Im sure with the reputation this guy has any good manners this boat may have will be let down by piss poor backup and non existant after sales service.:-[

[legsy11]

before i start ill say that id agree that of the small pressed brigade'seajay' definately would be the strongest and best value for money.
then ill say that nickstock is spot on,bluewater and fisher will build you a true custom 5.3 with all the bells and the 115 4 stroke and electronics for under 50k.
the sea jay 5.3 seems to be of good finish and strength but maybe need to rethink who the people they are selling a boat like this too.
i dont know too many millionaires buying 5.3 cc.
i would have too say someone who is in the market for this boat will definately be doing there research on your competitors and you guys will fall short buy a long way.
this is based on value as like you say no one knows what they ride like but they will have too be pretty good to compete with fisher,bluewater.
but i guess sea jay would have taken this into consideration??