D40 Navara

[landcrusier73]

Has anyone had injector problems with there Navara D40 Diesel??
I had mine shut down today after running on 3 cylinders for a min.
I had it towed to Nissan and they took a look at it and said that number 1 injector was not working and this is a common problem. The Navara is 18mths old and done 69500kms.

Has any body had these problems. The Navara is only filled up at BP with Diesel.

[Benny01]

why wasnt it working

[landcrusier73]

Nissan are saying it is a blockage and this is very common

[Benny01]

do u know what it blocks up with

[landcrusier73]

No not sure. But you would have to question the Nissan filtration system for the fuel system

[Benny01]

knowing nissan its proably just a piece of gauze just below where the diesel bowser fills it

[snatch]

It is a problem in the design of the injection manifold and it happened to mine also. That was 2 and a half years ago. They put a new set of injectors in it and a year later replaced them again with another set due to diesel knock.

It hasn't given me anymore trouble. If yours is a series one model, tell them to check the rear axels. I was pulling up at lights and the brakes were locking on and sending a shudder through the vehicle. The rear axels were leaking oil onto the drums and they literally polished themselves. With the abs trying to compensate it was over-applying the front brakes.

Nissan, I must say have been great with warranty work. They rang me to say we need the car an extra day. This was only last thursday. They remachined the drums and put new pads in and obviously repaired the axels. Apparently this too is a known issue with the series one.

Moral of the story? Never buy the first series of a completely new model. From any manufacturer. Having said that, despite these issues my vehicle has been a great drive for the most part.

[TheRealAndy]

Snatch I wished I lived close enough to you to have your dealer.

I just got my car back from the dealer, new fuel pump, fuel rail, injector tubes. The receipt says they replaced the fuel pump but I cant see it on the list of parts. This was a result of loss of power. I dont know a whole lot about common rail deisels, but i know that the fuel rail in petrol injected motor had a pressure releif valve. IT felt the same as if that valve was opening. The dealer took longer than quoted, no phone calls.

Also, front brakes stuffed after 32000kms. Nissan offered to replace rotors but not pads. Took it to the dealer said I would get my mechanic to replace the pads and they wanted to charge me labour. Told them to go get f**ked. It was cheaper for me to pay for uprated parts and the labour for my mechanic to fix it.

All in all, I think the d40 is a crap car. Soon as my lease has expired it will be replaced with something non nissan.

[snatch]

The odd thing is that I keep hearing nothing but bad reports about westco motors. I have been lucky I guess.

When the injectors failed I demanded a new engine. they refused but offered me an extended 12 months of warranty. Had I not had that ,I would have been paying for the work done last week. Sometimes we have a win I guess.

Despite my comment that it has largely been a good vehicle, I too will be moving to another brand when I sell. However I have heard numerous reports against all of them. Even the hilux.

Maybe I will go to a van type vehicle for my work vehicle next time and purchase a Forester ot the like for the camping etc.

[Lucky_Phill]

Nissan are saying it is a blockage and this is very common


I don't suppose you could get that in writing for me ????



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[Jabba_]

The odd thing is that I keep hearing nothing but bad reports about westco motors. I have been lucky I guess.

When the injectors failed I demanded a new engine. they refused but offered me an extended 12 months of warranty. Had I not had that ,I would have been paying for the work done last week. Sometimes we have a win I guess.

Despite my comment that it has largely been a good vehicle, I too will be moving to another brand when I sell. However I have heard numerous reports against all of them. Even the hilux.

Maybe I will go to a van type vehicle for my work vehicle next time and purchase a Forester ot the like for the camping etc.
It's a bit off a lucky dip these days when you buy a car and regardless off which brand you get... I have a D40 STX, and touch wood, I have only had 1 power window switch stop working, and the seat started to fray... I must say it has been the most reliable car I have owned to date...

A few off my work mates own Tritons, Hilux's and b50's... All have had some sort off a problem.. One off the tritons is getting a engie rebuild due to gudgon pin noise, The Hilux had an injector issue and it has chewed out it F/rotors in 35K, and it doesn't tow anything. The B50, has had a few electrical faults...

The's problems with all off them, thats why you alway get the extended warranty if you plan to keep you car lnger then 3 years...

[snatch]

I too have heard about the brake problem on the hilux Jabba.

My vehicle was actually purchased in the Whitsundays but since I have moved to Cairns the local dealer has treated me as though I bought the car there. Most dealers will not give you a courtesy car for warranty work unless you purchased the vehicle there.

My vehicle still has to go back for a fan switch resistor which they have ordered. They have offered me a courtesy vehicle for the day when it is done. Can't complain about that.

[Jabba_]

Just an update on the Triton that was getting the engine rebuild... The owner got his car back on Saturday... For a diesel motor is is extremely quiet, as quiet as a petrol.. He is very happy....

[JRBK]

I drive a a D40 STX Turbo Diesel dual cab 4wd, 2006 model, work supplied vehicle.
A couple of times, i have lost power, to the point that the tacho doesn't go over about 1500 rpm. Can have the foot flat to the floor and it just gradually rolls along. Got to a maximum speed of 40km/h along Elizabeth Ave at Redcliffe. Luckily it didn't happen on the hornibrook bridge.
Had RACQ look at it, thinking it may have been a turbo belt or something, he found nothing physically wrong. After i turned the car off, restarted it, and went ok for about a week, before happening again. Seems the way to fix the problem is turning off, then turning the car back.
It is at nissan today having a 50,000km service, and asked to have a look at the diagnostic faults/report when its being serviced. The guy i spoke to at Nissan said he'd never heard of this problem before.
Have to wait and see what the problem was when i pick it up.
Mark

[landcrusier73]

Hi Mark,

We have 17 D40 for work and two of them have had the same problem as yours. They have had the injector pump replaced on both of them and the problem has been fixed. Ask you dealer about the injector pump Nissan know about this. Out of the 17 D40 we have only 1 has had no problems. My seems to be at nissan more than on the road.

[Greg P]

I drive a a D40 STX Turbo Diesel dual cab 4wd, 2006 model, work supplied vehicle.
A couple of times, i have lost power, to the point that the tacho doesn't go over about 1500 rpm. Can have the foot flat to the floor and it just gradually rolls along. Got to a maximum speed of 40km/h along Elizabeth Ave at Redcliffe. Luckily it didn't happen on the hornibrook bridge.
Had RACQ look at it, thinking it may have been a turbo belt or something, he found nothing physically wrong. After i turned the car off, restarted it, and went ok for about a week, before happening again. Seems the way to fix the problem is turning off, then turning the car back.
It is at nissan today having a 50,000km service, and asked to have a look at the diagnostic faults/report when its being serviced. The guy i spoke to at Nissan said he'd never heard of this problem before.
Have to wait and see what the problem was when i pick it up.
Mark

Mark - we have had two at work do exactly the same thing. Really, really dangerous in certain traffic conditions. Nissan had both vehicle for a day and could not find any issues (no faults logged in the ECM). Some thoughts relate to earthing system but all connections looked OK - apparently. Only fix the same as mention - turn ign off/on. Not real flash trying to turn at intersection with a truck bearing down on you :o:o:o

[TheRealAndy]

Mark - we have had two at work do exactly the same thing. Really, really dangerous in certain traffic conditions. Nissan had both vehicle for a day and could not find any issues (no faults logged in the ECM). Some thoughts relate to earthing system but all connections looked OK - apparently. Only fix the same as mention - turn ign off/on. Not real flash trying to turn at intersection with a truck bearing down on you :o:o:o

Mine used to lose power when overtaking, or when you put you accelerate hard when its in overdrive (auto). I could make it fail whenever I wanted, so when I took it to the dealer (nissan redcliffe) i put my foot down just before I drove in and sure enough it failed. Left the car running, got the mechanic to drive it. He did not even have to drive it out of the delership car park. Straight up he said he knew what the problem was and that it was a common fault.

When it first started happeneing it never logged a fault code in the ECU, but eventually it logged a fault 0192 from memory which was fuel rail pressure high. I have the factory manual for this car. If anyone wants its you can find it by doing a search of the nissan frontier forums. Yell out if you cant find it and I will track down the link.

[JRBK]

Thanks Landcruiser 73, Greg P & The RealAndy for your comments.
Picked my Navara up yesterday from the nissan dealer, and even spoke to the technician who looked at the problem. They couldn't find any problems with it or in the on board computer. Surely faults would register some type of problem??

He said he took it for a drive and the problem happened, but he didn't have the computer hooked up to the car at the time so it couldn't record the problem. He hooked the computer up and the problem didn't occur again. GGGRRRR

He told me it will probably keep happening, but until such time as it occurs and they can hook the computer up to find out what it is, they won't do anything about it. The RealAndy, he told me the same thing what you said. When it happens, if i can, take it straight to them so they can record the problem and find out what they need fixing. He said it could the common rail or the fuel pump, but unsure at this stage. I asked them to replace both if thats what it normally is, but they don't work like that. Has to be recorded so the guarantee/warranty can cover it.

Hopefully, it won't happen in the middle of an intersection, or hornibrook highway with only 1 lane working.

Mark

[TheRealAndy]

Thanks Landcruiser 73, Greg P & The RealAndy for your comments.
Picked my Navara up yesterday from the nissan dealer, and even spoke to the technician who looked at the problem. They couldn't find any problems with it or in the on board computer. Surely faults would register some type of problem??

He said he took it for a drive and the problem happened, but he didn't have the computer hooked up to the car at the time so it couldn't record the problem. He hooked the computer up and the problem didn't occur again. GGGRRRR

He told me it will probably keep happening, but until such time as it occurs and they can hook the computer up to find out what it is, they won't do anything about it. The RealAndy, he told me the same thing what you said. When it happens, if i can, take it straight to them so they can record the problem and find out what they need fixing. He said it could the common rail or the fuel pump, but unsure at this stage. I asked them to replace both if thats what it normally is, but they don't work like that. Has to be recorded so the guarantee/warranty can cover it.

Hopefully, it won't happen in the middle of an intersection, or hornibrook highway with only 1 lane working.

Mark

Are you taking to village motors at redcliffe?

[JRBK]

It wasn't Village motors, it was Metro Nissan at Lutwyche.
Mark

[seastorm]

I think I have the same problem with my D40 STR Turbo Diesel. There has been a few time when I have started the car and have just been sitting there car not in gear and it will stop, then it will take a few minutes of cranking it over before it will start again to the point where I think the battery is going to go flat, tried one time to roll start it no good. And for the times when you take off from an intersection foot flat to the floor and it just crawles off the line, and we will not mention what happens when you have 2 ton of boat on and you have to stop on a hill.
Does this sound like the common fault with the D40 or is mine just a deeper colour of lemon

[TheRealAndy]

It wasn't Village motors, it was Metro Nissan at Lutwyche.
Mark

I had the holden mechanic at redcliffe drive the car when it was stuffed. Might want to give them a call. Nissan must be aware of the problem because they approved the repair pretty quickly.


I think I have the same problem with my D40 STR Turbo Diesel. There has been a few time when I have started the car and have just been sitting there car not in gear and it will stop, then it will take a few minutes of cranking it over before it will start again to the point where I think the battery is going to go flat, tried one time to roll start it no good. And for the times when you take off from an intersection foot flat to the floor and it just crawles off the line, and we will not mention what happens when you have 2 ton of boat on and you have to stop on a hill.
Does this sound like the common fault with the D40 or is mine just a deeper colour of lemon

I only ever had problems when trying to start mine after it had died under power. Had to put my foot flat to the floor otherwise it would stall. Rev the guts out of it and it would get power back.

[JRBK]

I think I have the same problem with my D40 STR Turbo Diesel. There has been a few time when I have started the car and have just been sitting there car not in gear and it will stop, then it will take a few minutes of cranking it over before it will start again to the point where I think the battery is going to go flat, tried one time to roll start it no good. And for the times when you take off from an intersection foot flat to the floor and it just crawles off the line, and we will not mention what happens when you have 2 ton of boat on and you have to stop on a hill.
Does this sound like the common fault with the D40 or is mine just a deeper colour of lemon

It hasn't happened to mine when i first start it, yet. By the sounds of it tho, it may eventually do that. First time mine happened, i was about to overtake someone, put the foot down, and it went straight to the floor...and nothing. Think an elderley man in his electric cart passed me. At this stage i can't make the problem happen, otherwise i'd be taking it straight back. Mine is an auto tho, not a manual.

[JRBK]

[quote=TheRealAndy;1023023]I had the holden mechanic at redcliffe drive the car when it was stuffed. Might want to give them a call. Nissan must be aware of the problem because they approved the repair pretty quickly.

Cheers RealAndy. I'll ring them today to see what they say.
I'm sure they're aware of the problem, but i bet not willing to say its a common problem and fix it straight away..that would too simple.

Mark

[TheRealAndy]

[quote=TheRealAndy;1023023]I had the holden mechanic at redcliffe drive the car when it was stuffed. Might want to give them a call. Nissan must be aware of the problem because they approved the repair pretty quickly.

Cheers RealAndy. I'll ring them today to see what they say.
I'm sure they're aware of the problem, but i bet not willing to say its a common problem and fix it straight away..that would too simple.

Mark

When the mechanic said hew knew what the problem was I asked him if it was an easy fix and he said yes. Only problem is that because everyone is having the same issue the parts are scarce. I had to wait 3-4 weeks till all the parts arrived.

[JRBK]

If its a common problem, i don't see why they just don't do a recall on them.

[FNQCairns]

How come no-one who has had the problem rectified can comment on what was replaced/cleaned/reset??

cheers fnq

[TheRealAndy]

If its a common problem, i don't see why they just don't do a recall on them.

Good question.


How come no-one who has had the problem rectified can comment on what was replaced/cleaned/reset??

cheers fnq

I can list the parts and part numbers if you want. They basically replaced the fuel rail and the tubes going from the fuel rail to the injectors. The parts list also included some gaskets and crap. When I get home tonight I will put the full list up and comments on the job sheet.

[TheRealAndy]

From the job invoice:

Work Description
NO POWER TO OVERTAKE ON H/WAY
Complaint:
Slows down and wont rev
**** CUSTOMER TO SPEAK TO SHANE/BRYCE ****
Checked for vehicle has no power to overtake
Cause:
Found fuel pump and rail U/S
VRA#
Remedy/Rectification:
Removed all components to enable the replacement of fuel rail, lines and fuel pump, bled fuel system and topped up oil and cooling system, replaced oil filter all ok.


N*17520EB30C COMMON RAIL ASS (M) 1
N*013511204M GASKET-EYE BOLT (M) 1
N*15208BN30A FILTER ASSY-OIL (M) 1
N*14035EB300 GASKET-MANIFOLD 1
N*166278H800 GASKET-CONNECTOR (M) 1
N*16684EB30A TUBE ASSY INJECTION NO5 (M 1
N*16680EB30A TUBE ASSY INJECTION NO1 (M 1
N*16681EB30A TUBE ASSY INJECTION NO2 (M 1
N*16682EB30A TUBE ASSY INJECTION NO 3 ( 1
N*16683EB30A TUBE ASSY INJECTION NO 1 ( 1

[FNQCairns]

Crikey! it reads to me like a full but pre injector under bonnet fuel delivery system replacement:o I suppose this is the most mechanically complicated part of the engine so by the numbers, say a couple or few per 100 cars sold must fail early.

Unless it's simply easier to do it all when as the manufacturer, the labour is near the most expensive cost or they had no good idea what it was but considered fuel delivery somewhere, therefore just do it all and be done with it:-/.

Wouldn't get away with the same replacements for under 7k (as a guess) if it was out of warranty.

cheers fnq

[White Pointer]

It is a problem in the design of the injection manifold and it happened to mine also. That was 2 and a half years ago. They put a new set of injectors in it and a year later replaced them again with another set due to diesel knock.

It hasn't given me anymore trouble. If yours is a series one model, tell them to check the rear axels. I was pulling up at lights and the brakes were locking on and sending a shudder through the vehicle. The rear axels were leaking oil onto the drums and they literally polished themselves. With the abs trying to compensate it was over-applying the front brakes.

Nissan, I must say have been great with warranty work. They rang me to say we need the car an extra day. This was only last thursday. They remachined the drums and put new pads in and obviously repaired the axels. Apparently this too is a known issue with the series one.

Moral of the story? Never buy the first series of a completely new model. From any manufacturer. Having said that, despite these issues my vehicle has been a great drive for the most part.

G'day,

They machined the drums? If oil leaked out of the axle into the brake chambers the drums have copped some punishment. The drums should have been replaced - not machined. If the drums were machined the linings fitted must be oversize by 15 or 30 thou - which means all parts are probably on their last life.

I would ask for all to be replaced with new.

White Pointer

[Jabba_]

Today, pulling my boat out off the water, I put the D40 into low 4. Half way up the ramp, bang. Something let go in the front... It's either a CV, Hub or Diff... Still has full drive in 4x4, no clunking noises from the diff, but in 2wd the front left wheel loads up, and releases going round cornes.... Tow truck is comming soon to take it to a holding yard for the night before going to Nissan tomorrow...

[GBC]

Ouch - I've had the odd driveline failure - hopefully it isn't tooo expensive.

[FNQCairns]

Sounds like a hub, do these things spin the ,tailshaft, diff and axles all the time?

cheers fnq

[GBC]

Just been thinking about the symptoms - might just be still locked in 4wd and the dash isn't registering? Hopefully?

[Jabba_]

I dont thisk that is the problem GBC...
After I backed the D40 out off the garage for the towie, I came back into to find a big puddle off clear oil, it smelt like ATF.

I was thinking it was going to most probably be a CV or Hub, but now I think it is going to be bigger...

I do have warranty, 5 years worth, and the D40 is only 19months old with 30k on the clock

[GBC]

phark - yeah no oil on the easy bits....
Don't tell them what you were doing!!

[Jabba_]

I was advised today I snapped the teeth off the spider gear and I cracked the housing......

I dropped into Nissan this afternoon after speaking with the service manager 3 times today, explaning to him how the it happened and to check out the damage.... On the phone he warned me that Nissan may not warrant the damage if they feel it was caused by abuse or mis-use...

Anyway, I arrive at Nissan this afternoon. The manager was all very nice and as helpfull as he could be, and we took a walk down to my D40... While he was showing me the damage, the head manager came over and told us Nisssan Aust have authorized the repairs... Happy days

[levinge]

Tell me guys are these things happening to the petrol model, deisel model or happening to both. Interested in seeing the responses as I was looking at a 2006 4.0L petrol Auto model with about 90k on the clock as a replacement tow for my 6M Centre Cab.

Any info would be helpful..

[FNQCairns]

I was advised today I snapped the teeth off the spider gear and I cracked the housing......

I dropped into Nissan this afternoon after speaking with the service manager 3 times today, explaning to him how the it happened and to check out the damage.... On the phone he warned me that Nissan may not warrant the damage if they feel it was caused by abuse or mis-use...

Anyway, I arrive at Nissan this afternoon. The manager was all very nice and as helpful as he could be, and we took a walk down to my D40... While he was showing me the damage, the head manager came over and told us Nisssan Aust have authorized the repairs... Happy days

Happy days is an understatement! Seriously good news, strictly you should have been able to near smoke all 4 wheels up and lose nothing but rubber...must have been a factory fault somewhere...better to find it now than when out of warranty.

Hell I would get drunk to celebrate the untold thousands you saved.

cheers fnq

[levinge]

Hey Fnq you'd get drunk if the sun came up. Any excuse to have a few TIC

[Jabba_]

Happy days is an understatement! Seriously good news, strictly you should have been able to near smoke all 4 wheels up and lose nothing but rubber...must have been a factory fault somewhere...better to find it now than when out of warranty.

Hell I would get drunk to celebrate the untold thousands you saved.

cheers fnq

I am going to celebrate by towing my boat down to the ramp on Sunday, with the D40, head out to the 50's and catch the bloody biggest Amber-Jack I have ever seen...

[Jabba_]

Tell me guys are these things happening to the petrol model, deisel model or happening to both. Interested in seeing the responses as I was looking at a 2006 4.0L petrol Auto model with about 90k on the clock as a replacement tow for my 6M Centre Cab.

Any info would be helpful..

I have heard off a coulp off other D40's that have broke the front diff, but from what I heard, one smacked a rock and and split the casing, oil draind out and he cooked his gears.... The others were getting there front wheels off the ground with a foot full off throttle,,, and when they land, the front wheels hook up and blow the diff.....

[levinge]

So overall there Jabba, would you recommend one as a tow vehicle???

[TheRealAndy]

So overall there Jabba, would you recommend one as a tow vehicle???

Depends on what you are towing. I pulled my 4.55 polycraft to townsville and back and the d40 barely used any more fuel than it would without the boat. Regularly do poonah with and without the boat and same deal. But, fully loaded with fuel and camping gear etc. the poly would be lucky to hit maybe 600kg. They are a great car, shame about nissan dealers though.

[Jabba_]

So overall there Jabba, would you recommend one as a tow vehicle???
Yes, overall its a good rig, and it appears that I had a fault in the spider gears...

The D40 is a very capable 4x4,, yet it drive like a sedan...
I would have a guess and say you plate boat & trailer would weigh similar to my Fibreglass boat & trailer (2200kg).... The D40 tows my boat very easily, and it is still quiet quick from the lights....
I have an auto, and fuel consumption has improved greatly since new.. With 30k on the cock I getting 11.5-12.3lt/100km, and that is 100% city driving.... If I tow the boat down to tweed from Labrador, I get 14lt/100km combined....

[Jabba_]

Just to let you all know, I recieved my D40 back today, in exellent condition.. It was washed, tire shined and vacumed.. Nissan also replaced items that I only mentioned, "they may need a look at"... Von Bibra Nissan has given me the best service I have recieve buy a car manufacture....

[TheRealAndy]

Just to let you all know, I recieved my D40 back today, in exellent condition.. It was washed, tire shined and vacumed.. Nissan also replaced items that I only mentioned, "they may need a look at"... Von Bibra Nissan has given me the best service I have recieve buy a car manufacture....

Good stuff Jabba. Maybe I should start travelling to the coast to get mine looked at. I cant find a decent nissan dealer near me. Although I must say the last repair was done quite well. Now the fuel system is sorted it could almost swear that I have more power and better economy. Will be interesting to see the figures after I have fueled up a couple of times.

I dont know about you, but every time I get my car back its seems to behave differently. I swear that they reprogram the computer each time. This time I have got it back and the auto window wind up/down on the drivers side has changed (for the better) and the radio seems to stay on a bit longer when you turn the engine off. Just little things, quite odd though!