True breaking strain of Sufix performance braid?

[Strewth]

Anyone know the true breaking strain of 6lb/30lb Sufix Performance Braid? I was told that it breaks at close to its rated capacity, and am curious because it is a thin 6 ply braid.

[revs57]

Yes, I understand most sufix performance braids do break close to their rating - the performance is the thinnest line of the sufix range and compares ver competatively to most other brands on the market. The matrix pro is comparable, but a limper braid more suited to spinning reels. I understand that the new Rovex braid being distributed by Jarvis Walker is rebadged Sufix. I use Suix performance and matrix pro almost exclusively. I've found it to be good, reliable and reasonably priced line.

cheers

rhys

[Strewth]

I tried the 6lb performance braid on my spin gear on the weekend and it went well with no wind knots. I have a baitcaster spooled with 30lb and it also casts well. If the Matrix Pro is limper, would it not be better suited to a baitcaster? I prefer braids to be a little springy on eggbeaters. Have used 8 lb Fireline XDS for a few years with great success on spin gear but it has been discontinued.

[BrandonH]

Suffix performance braid is the only braid I use now, well I still have one spool of 20lb fins and one of 50lb fins but thats only cause they are still working well and I don't mind fins at all in the heaver braids ;)

I have 8lb and 10lb on my main 2500 spin reels 30lb on my 4500 and 50 on my Abu 6500. b4 Sufix I used the same strength in fireline and wasn't happy with it until it was half way through its life!! Sufix I find casts a good distance further and gets less wind knots, Because I sometimes use very little weight or no weight and I still fish when its dam windy I do get wind knots in sufix braid, but I think that would happen with any brand or braid or eve mono I decide to use. the only way to stop wind knots from happening is every 4th to 8th cast throw one out into the middle of the creek as far as you can, then wind it back on with pressure on the line.

I didn't really answer your question did I ::) sorry!! I can't really answer it for you except in saying that I feel confident using the same drag with sufix that I would have used with other line.

cheers
Brandon...

[reidy]

the following was published in a rather modern fishing mag a few months back,
Suffix matrix pro 10lb broke at 17.02lb
30lb 37.57lb
50lb 61.4lb

suffix preformance 10lb 12.87lb
30lb 32.93lb
50lb 55.85lb
the preformance appears to have the closest actual vs rated breaking strain ratio of the Suffix braids.
You should be able to make a comparison with lighter lines from this i think.
Hope it helps
Cheers
Reidy

[Strewth]

Thanks Reidy - very informative. It does indeed seem as though the Sufix performance braid breaks at close to its rated capacity. Did the same article list the true breaking strain for 8lb Fireline XDS?

Personally, I find this inconsistency in breaking strains for braids annoying as it makes it difficult to compare different lines which are supposed to break at the same load.

[reidy]

no fireline im sorry
bionic,coral,daiwa sensor,fins original,prt,windtamer,xs,mustard,penn,platil,plat y jig,sinking,super,rapala,scienific angler, sufix gryo,herculine,matrix pro,performance,sunline castaway,pe jigger,super pe,surecatch,tufline,unitika aorika,power jig,silver thread and yamatoyo were all tested
Yes there are some LARGE inconsistencies eg 10lb tuf line parts at 22.22 lb over twice it's rating.fins original 4lb at 15.78lb nearly 4x. All parted over their nominated rating.
Cheers
Reidy

[Tim_N]

Take a look at this site, this guy does proper calibrated line testing too.
http://www.pcwi.com.au/fishing/linetesting.htm
Tim

[Strewth]

Thanks Reidy and Tim_N. It would be great if someone could post a summary of the table from a "rather modern fishing mag", as it is hard to find this very useful info.

Strewth

[reidy]

I can only access the forum through work,and i am a computer vegetable (have no idea really just worked out the atvar thing after 16 months LOL)Do you have a fax no. i could attempt to send the required pages to?
If no luck i,ll pop in to work one week-end and manually input the info. for all but there is quite a bit of info there and it may take some time.
Cheers
Reidy

[Strewth]

Reidy, I have sent you a PM with part of the table filled in. Sent to me by someone who also found the info very useful.

[reidy]

Just got back from leave.Will attempt to do it on the week-end for you but no promises (depends if the master needs me)
Cheers
Reidy

[the gecko]

Ive been on Suffix Performance braid ever since the Modern Fishing tests were published. I use 15lb and 30lb, and have only ever had one main line break, and it was definitley a big fish, well over 30lb pressure. Other bustoffs were just leader to main failing at a double uni knot. I find 20lb and 40lb leader holds ok, but 50-60lb leader seems to get cut by the thinner 30lb braid. I know, I must learn to tie an albright sooner or later. I assume that will fix the problem from what Ive read here on other posts.

Suffix performance also had the lowest diameter to strength ratio, meaning its thinner so more line gets on the spool.

Sunline pe came in second best from memory.
I think Fins was third, but 'best' is a very subjective thing, and up to individual tastes.

Berkely declined to allow Fireline to be tested, hmmmmm I wonder why.

I'll see if I still have the mag. Would scanning and posting it be allowed by ausfish policy?

Andrew

[Tim_N]

And,
Suffix Performance is a 6 ply,
Sunline castaway PE is 8 ply Dyneema and,
Fins is 4 ply Spectra.
Tim

[Strewth]

Would be great if you could post the scanned table, but am unsure of the legals.

I wish there was more line data around. Have been using the 30 lb SPB on my baitcaster and the 6 lb on my eggbeater for a month. So far so good, but it hasn't been tested by a really big fish. I find that it knots very well - esp with Ted Donelan's leader knot which I reckon is one of the best knots going.

Question: Do all woven braids contain polyethylene?

[Tin_Donkey]

The site Tim_N posted on here some time ago is very good. I know Paulus personally and he is always trying out new gear. His site is worth a visit. He has updated so much material data, especially finding out what % of the breaking strain is lost in the wear factor. Thats one reason why many of the lines are being made above their stated strain. To allow for the sudden drop in its actual breaking strain over a short period of time. For those using bigger lines, I have seen the Tasline he has and its very flexible/soft. While you are their have a look at his method of joining braids. I even did it with 14lb Fireline. Yes its a fused braid but its still braid.

[NAGG]

Would be great if you could post the scanned table, but am unsure of the legals.

I wish there was more line data around. Have been using the 30 lb SPB on my baitcaster and the 6 lb on my eggbeater for a month. So far so good, but it hasn't been tested by a really big fish. I find that it knots very well - esp with Ted Donelan's leader knot which I reckon is one of the best knots going.

Question: Do all woven braids contain polyethylene?

They are all polyethylene ...... High molecular weightt polyethylene (HMWPE)