View Full Version : 2009 4X4 of the Year
levinge
07-01-2009, 08:29 AM
I can hear the can of worms opening now.
4X4 magazine just announced the Mitsubishi Pajero Deisel as the 4WD of the year. Pretty shallow competition when the others they put up were 2 suzuki's, 2 Jeeps and a Lexus.
What happened to the Patrols and Cruisers, gues they didn't spend as much on advertising etc with 4X4 Magazine.
They supposedly ran the evaluation over subjects like.
Off road capability
Safety
Value for Money
Build Quality etc.
Seems a little tilted this does???
Lucky_Phill
07-01-2009, 04:53 PM
I really never take any notice of such articles or reports.
There are so many categories available under the 4 x 4 banner, it would be impossible to say one 4 x 4 is the best.
The best 4 x 4 for anyone wanting to buy one, is the one that suits your needs and budget................simple.
If you want a family weekender, then maybe the Paj is for you, if you want a farm workhorse then the 79 Cruiser ute is the one, you need to tow your 685 cruisey then a F250 might be needed and if you like to look like a suburban terrorist, a Hummer might be best for you !!!!
Bling it up or chip it, there are toooo many options.
Budget, in the end, will win.
phill
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BTW. Nissan Navara D22 was voted best allround 4 x 4 for 2008 by.....me !!!
PinHead
07-01-2009, 05:06 PM
Any of those awards..including Boat of the year, Aust design Awards..just buy them..no need to have a good product.
Announcing the 2009 winner on the 7th day of the year...WOW...aren't there any new models coming out in 2009?
And Pajero....do people actually buy them????
snatch
07-01-2009, 05:13 PM
The awards are always announced at the start of the year. Vehciles released this year will be trialed and get their chance for the 2010.
The pajero is a capable vehicle and a worthy winner (in its class).
Not everyone likes Landcruisers.
Lucky_Phill
07-01-2009, 06:02 PM
The pajero is a capable vehicle and a worthy winner (in its class).
True, but to be named 4 x 4 of the year, implying it was an overall winner is drawing a very long bow.
100% of people surveyed who had the exact same name as me, voted the Nissan Navara best 4 x 4 ever........;D
and, to add some fuel, ya 4BY is only as good as the driver :P
Phill
levinge
07-01-2009, 06:17 PM
And the can is definitely open!!!
Benny01
07-01-2009, 07:06 PM
they should give car of the year for cars when they hit 10 years old. then you can bet the house there will be no mitsi or nissan in there
chisel
07-01-2009, 09:05 PM
I hope they've fixed the dpf issues.
rockfisho
07-01-2009, 09:53 PM
I heard that pajeros had really poor transfer gear ratios. My favourite fourby is the landy 70 series wagon model. simple and uncomplicated reducing the risks of breakdown in the middle of nowhere. AND, it has a live front axle. if only i had enough money...
Owen
levinge
08-01-2009, 08:18 AM
One thing you can guarantee is that if you break down in a cruiser or patrol out west, you won't have to spend a few days waiting for parts, they'll have them on hand and you'll be moving again pretty quickly!!!
adam69
08-01-2009, 08:53 AM
They still have warranty in 10 years mate!!!
backlash08
08-01-2009, 10:38 AM
lets not forget that the hilman hunter and original mini won car of the year, the list goes on and on, it was mitsubishi's turn I guess
dec0guy
08-01-2009, 11:47 AM
And these awards are generally for new models only, not sure when the latest land cruisers, patrols etc were released, but they may not be 'eligible' for the award
finga
08-01-2009, 11:56 AM
What....no Landy's???
Must be a all a load of bullocks I reckon.
Mr__Bean
08-01-2009, 12:07 PM
lets not forget that the hilman hunter and original mini won car of the year, the list goes on and on, it was mitsubishi's turn I guess
So did the Leyland P76.
Enough said........
- Darren
levinge
08-01-2009, 12:25 PM
They still have warranty in 10 years mate!!!
Don't get me wrong I drive a Mitso. Even a 10 year warranty is still going to see you sitting waiting for parts out west, don't see to many Tritons, Pajero's etc running around in central OZ. Thats the domain of the Cruiser and Patrols, so it would be a little wait to get moving again.
Just pour the can into the pot and bringing out the big spoon to give it a stir..
adam69
08-01-2009, 01:11 PM
Because everyone is under the impression that you need a cruiser or patrol to venture out there! These cars are more than capable of going out there - they dont stock parts because no-one goes out there in these cars! Why spend the ex 15k on Nissan/Toyota?
finga
08-01-2009, 01:11 PM
One thing you can guarantee is that if you break down in a cruiser or patrol out west, you won't have to spend a few days waiting for parts, they'll have them on hand and you'll be moving again pretty quickly!!!
They still have warranty in 10 years mate!!!
Talking to an unhappy chappy in Warwick on Friday.
His 3 year old Paj. blew a top tank on the radiator towing the van up the big hill.
He was stuck in town until Wednesday to get a new tank or radiator.
Poor bugger also had the ultra-care but there were no hire cars available for a day or two.
Donny Boy
08-01-2009, 06:27 PM
Suggest everyone have a look at the new Isuzu D-Max.
Now that things got some grunt ......................& way cheaper than the opposition.
adam69
09-01-2009, 08:09 AM
Its the same as the rodeo!
adam69
09-01-2009, 11:48 AM
Hahaha good one NOT!!
Benny01
09-01-2009, 08:18 PM
camira and the early magna also won car of the year
Captain Seaweed
09-01-2009, 08:37 PM
I own a cruiser and a Patrol and I have had a Pajero at one stage. All comes down to what you want to use them for. I believe the Pajero is giving the Prado run for its money , and as for the cruiser I have one and will not buy another again if it is for serious offroad work. The mrs loves the cruiser for space, comfort and ease of driving. As for the Patrol is is not build as well as the cruiser but it definitly is a better offroad vehicle. This topic is a real can of worms and has so many options depending on use. Independant suspension I believe is an over engineered handbrake in all serious offroad 4x4's. I think Toyota's Hilux would be 4x4 of the year if it came out in an all coil option coupled with a big turbo diesel.
Anyway my 5c
Marty
steve99
11-01-2009, 11:16 PM
BTW. Nissan Navara D22 was voted best allround 4 x 4 for 2008 by.....me !!!
And by me. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
snatch
12-01-2009, 05:41 PM
Its the same as the rodeo!
Technically you have it the wrong way around.
snatch
12-01-2009, 05:45 PM
they should give car of the year for cars when they hit 10 years old. then you can bet the house there will be no mitsi or nissan in there
...and all the judges will dismiss anything with a toyota badge on it when they do the value for money equation.
finga
13-01-2009, 08:58 AM
they should give car of the year for cars when they hit 10 years old. then you can bet the house there will be no mitsi or nissan in there
...and all the judges will dismiss anything with a toyota badge on it when they do the value for money equation.
Drag the time line out to say....40 years and what do you have left??
Series III LANDROVER!! ;D
Tangles
13-01-2009, 10:08 PM
speaking of which, hows that old landy of yours going Finga? beautiful machine that
mike
finga
14-01-2009, 06:33 AM
speaking of which, hows that old landy of yours going Finga? beautiful machine that
mike
yeah, good thanks matey.
It is a Landy so of cause it's going well.
Actually the Holden motor helps a bit but we won't tell anybody about that ;)
Dad actually polished it before x-mas. Looking a treat again ;D
QuinnyII
15-01-2009, 05:47 AM
One thing you can guarantee is that if you break down in a cruiser or patrol out west, you won't have to spend a few days waiting for parts, they'll have them on hand and you'll be moving again pretty quickly!!!
Unless it is a 200 series towing a van and you blow a diff, in which case you will be waiting 6 weeks and don't expect to be covered by warranty.
levinge
15-01-2009, 08:41 AM
Ouch!!!!!!
Forgot about the expensive Toorak Cruisers with all whistles and bells
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