View Full Version : Backing line for baitcaster?
Hairy_Harold
16-11-2008, 08:58 PM
Do you guys ever put any thought into what mono you back your braid with? I had a whole spool of 20lbs sunline castaway braid (150m) on my alphas r-edtion. Well that didn't last too long ha getting really low really quick it's my first baitcaster and things aren't working out so well but I love the thing none the less. Back to it, um yeah I was thinking of using the super 100 line for backing as it's the thinnest mono I can find just to try and get some more length on my reel for when I go jack fishing. Do any of you's have any preferences?
2manylures
16-11-2008, 09:14 PM
As I understand from what you say above yu are still learning to cast with your baitcaster.
If this is correct, don't fill it would be my advice as the fuller the spool the greater the pendulum effect you'll get hence more & worse birdsnests resulting in more expense.
Wait until you are proficicient & full of confidence then fll the spool to capacity. I'd almost suggest that you spool it with cheap crappy line & practice your casting with casting plugs the same weight & lighter than your lures. Light lures are a little more difficult to cast than heavier .
I don't use braid so can't and won't offer advice on backing as such. I do use baitcasters for just about all my fishing & have been for over 20yrs.
If I misunderstood then please disregard all the above & no offense meant.;D
Hairy_Harold
16-11-2008, 11:00 PM
Not so much learning as such just mostly new to it, i get birdnests but it's more so just me being impatient in trying to get distance and loosening up the reel too much. Have lost length in line from a massive birdnest that was unfixable trying to cast a 1/16oz jighead on a 5'6" 1-2kg shakespeare rod trying to see if I could do it which I near lost half the spool but that is the only f-up i'd had in the month i've own my alphas. I have 3 rods for this reel at the moment looking at buying a new reel by christmas (daiwa pixy) off a mate. I have casting plugs and pitch down the hall can hit a frying pan from like 30m away pretty consistantly
Jeremy87
17-11-2008, 10:10 AM
[quote=Hairy_Harold;929470]Back to it, um yeah I was thinking of using the super 100 line for backing as it's the thinnest mono I can find just to try and get some more length on my reel for when I go jack fishing.quote]
Your worried about not having enough line on your reel for jack fishing? My moto with jacks is screw the drag up and put your thumb down, i barely have any more than 30 metres of line out at any time when chasing jacks. Any more than that and i'd be more worried about getting stitched than the quality of my backing thats 100 metres away. When spooling a reel up with braid i ask myself do i ever think i will get into backing and if the answer is yes i get a 300metre spool. If you've lost so much line that you are worried about getting that far down its time to buy a new spool of braid.
Hairy_Harold
17-11-2008, 01:57 PM
Yep just makes me sad to lose probably 100m of castaway in a month lol. I guess i'll just back it up to fill the spool out a bit with what ever i've got around till I can be bothered going back to my local tackle shop to buy more braid.
rhycebullimore
17-11-2008, 04:48 PM
Hairy, i have 2 alphas, 1 zillion pe special, 3 millionairs, 2 calcuttas, 2 certates. all have braid. i have about 6-8 wraps of mono on at the absoulte most on all my reels for the sole purpose of stopping the braid from slipping on the spool thats it, unfortunatly i would be investing into another sppol of braid for your alphas, and just really finetuning the magnetic cast control, my spool is loose as, it's all in the thumb, so i can get maximum distance. hope this helps mate.
Jeremy87
17-11-2008, 05:42 PM
Bloody hell 100 metres a month! maybe if you didn't try casting weights like a 16th ounce your braid might last a bit longer, i know they like to advertise you can cast 2 or 3 gram weights with those reels but there really is no reason to, not when you can just as easily use a spinning reel and not have these problems.
Hairy_Harold
17-11-2008, 06:12 PM
Yeah I was using a mate pixy and it got me excited (don't really know why) and was just trying to see how the alphas compared and yeah it doesn't ha, can cast 1/8oz really easily but 1/16oz never again. I lost half the spool on that birdnest was at it trying to pick it out for like 30 minutes then just go the shits and started with the scissors. At least I know what not to do now :D always learn things the hard way
wags on the water
17-11-2008, 06:43 PM
Check out the braid on e bay, especially if you're going to take the scissors to it.
bassfan
17-11-2008, 07:51 PM
Have lost length in line from a massive birdnest that was unfixable trying to cast a 1/16oz jighead on a 5'6" 1-2kg shakespeare rod
Rule #1 with any baitcaster reel is don't try to cast any lure lighter than 4 or 5 grams, they just aren't designed to do it. That's strictly threadline reel territory, and the reason your bream lure fishos generally use spinning gear for the tiny 2 gram lures.
Hairy_Harold
17-11-2008, 08:15 PM
Rule #1 with any baitcaster reel is don't try to cast any lure lighter than 4 or 5 grams, they just aren't designed to do it. That's strictly threadline reel territory, and the reason your bream lure fishos generally use spinning gear for the tiny 2 gram lures.
Yeah not stupid enough to try that twice, pretty much just stick to bass fishing anyway so 1/8oz - 3/4oz is what I cast. I can cast a slider with a 1/8oz jighead (3.5g) without any trouble and none of my lures are any lighter, apart from some kokoda sprogs I have that I have never used and were given to me. I am currently using a shimano river raider with the alphas r-edtion which i'm loving as a combo.
I just threw on some 10lbs platypus classic to fill out the spool for the moment it will do for now as I don't really see myself doing much more then bass fishing in the near future. I just feel that a fuller spool helps me with thumb control of the spool and doesn't make me as sad for loosing so much braid ha
2manylures
18-11-2008, 08:48 AM
Rule #1 with any baitcaster reel is don't try to cast any lure lighter than 4 or 5 grams, they just aren't designed to do it. That's strictly threadline reel territory, and the reason your bream lure fishos generally use spinning gear for the tiny 2 gram lures.
Don't know where this rocket science came from.
Many anglers cast weights down to 1/8oz with baitcasters without any problems.
Some can, Some can't or don't want too, their choice but it doesn't mean it can't be done & isn't done.
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