View Full Version : yamaha 50hp 4 stroke????
pursuit001
25-06-2008, 06:14 PM
hi guys im buying a brand new boat rig which is being fitted with a 50hp yammy fourstroke my question is its goin on a 4.6 open tiller boat with front casting deck etc im wondering if theres any others out there with a simliar rig as im chasing fuel consumpion etc and has any one had any faults with this motor?
thanks
pursuit001
25-06-2008, 06:15 PM
im currently a etec owner and dont wanna make the mistake of buying troubles
finding_time
25-06-2008, 07:01 PM
i'm sure the yami will be fine Pursuit, just dont waste to much time looking for the oil reservior!
TheRealAndy
25-06-2008, 08:05 PM
I have an 5 year old yam 50 on the back of my 4.5m poly. From shorncliffe to tangalooma and back is a tad over 20litres of fuel. Add some fishing and motoring around and your whole day cost you about 30litres.
pursuit001
25-06-2008, 08:09 PM
hi andy thanks for your response mate that sounds around what i was getting with my etec which im more than happy with pick the new rig up next week so will put her to the test
thanks
winston
25-06-2008, 08:20 PM
Pursuit001, the only question that I have is: why not buy the 60 hp Yamaha fourstroke instead? The 60 is the same block and same weight as the 50. The 60 is a little more expensive (no legitimate reason why this shuold be) but more power for the same weight/motor seems logical. Cheers Winston. p.s. Should be a great setup which ever motor you choose.
BrandonH
25-06-2008, 08:22 PM
My dad has one on a hornet trophy 4.35. He's had it for about 4 years I think and he still loves it:) great economy, don't know the figures though.. He did put a foil on it maybe 2 years ago and that helped get the heavy arsed boat on a plane quick smart;)
Cheers
Brandon..
Tangles
25-06-2008, 08:38 PM
Pursuit,
I have a 2007 Sea Jay 4.55 Territory ( has the front deck) with a Yammie 50 4 stroke, no issues and are happy,,, as for fuel consumption cant give you exact figures just observations, I usually go about 36 klicks and give a good blast WOT here and there ( tops out just over 50 with 2 onboard and gear.)
1: Viccie Pt to top of Peel ( drift around etc) then down to pelican Banks via Dunwich and return about 12 ltres y.. if straight trip to top of Peel and drifting around ususally two trips per 24ltr tank with safe margin
2: Buggerize around the pin, ie Rudy to Power Lines , Coby etc then to Tigermullett and back around the same useage.
Was told expect around 6 ltres per hr at a nice cruising speed, WOT 12 plus if that helps... Only thing I would say is for one overnighter really packed with camping gear was not great off the mark but thats about it and to be expected, I had a serious amount of gear
Mike
RFARREN
25-06-2008, 09:07 PM
i have a 4.75 quinnie with a 50 hp 4 stroke and a can not fault it
starts first time , good on fuel and quiet as
u will not be disapointed mate
i go out all day drag troll baits around and move all the time bottom fishing and the most i have used in 1 day is 50 litres
black runner
25-06-2008, 09:20 PM
I have the the 60hp which is the same motor on a Stacer 460 and couldn't be more impressed. When I was researching these I could find nothing but excellent feedback. I get around 8-9lph at cruise 4200rpm and 20 knots but varies depending on conditions and load. Never fails to start 1st go hot or cold, and uses no oil between changes.
Cheers - You'll be very happy with it.
Waraba Mick
26-06-2008, 12:24 AM
Hi pursuit, i run a 2002 60hp yammie carby model with tiller, had it since new,has been completely trouble free to date. I have owned quite a few motors since the 1970s but this one is the most user friendly so far.
Cheers Mick.
pursuit001
26-06-2008, 06:08 AM
hi guys thanks for all the feedback i wanted the the 60 but the company will only fit the max hp which is the 50 i looked into it and seen that the 60 is the same weight also surely the extra 10hp wouldnt harm it
thanks
black runner
26-06-2008, 10:39 PM
Its going to be just as torquey as the 60 just won't have as much grunt at WOT. The Yam 50/60 is comparitively light 4 stroke - only a few kgs heavier than the 2 st so having the derated 60 is a great option. For example the yam 50 4 st weighs only 8kg more (110 compared to 102) than the new Honda 50, however the Yam is 4 Cyl 996cc compared to Honda 3 cyl 808cc. So in your application where you can take the extra weight you will be ahead in the performance stakes - comparing 4 strokes that is. I am not knocking the Honda cause they are a fantastic motor, just using it as an example in this case.
rando
26-06-2008, 11:05 PM
Guys
I have been shopping for a (used) 50 horse 4 banger also.I had a chat to a dealer and mentioned my preference for a Suzuki, ( based on the many good reports i've seen here, although mostly for the larger models I must admit).
Well this guy bagged the suzy, and the Honda as throw away engines, with short designed life.
Now is this guy just pushing his Merc/yammy dealer barrow, or is there some substance to this .
I am considering getting an 04 honda that ive found for my 4.5 CC
Any info gladly received, with thanks
rando
Benny1
27-06-2008, 08:44 AM
rando,
Not being the same size, my old boat 6.5m platey ran a 130hp Honda. I had no problems with it. Always started first time, ran very quietly and smooth. It was very good on fuel
Ally Jack
27-06-2008, 08:46 AM
Pursuit001,
I have a 50 Yammie 4stk on the back of my Allycraft 445 dory. Great motor uses bugger all fuel, starts first time all the time.
Cannot fault it, except I brought mine just before the trolling function on the tiller was available
Ally Jack
FNQCairns
27-06-2008, 09:03 AM
Guys
I have been shopping for a (used) 50 horse 4 banger also.I had a chat to a dealer and mentioned my preference for a Suzuki, ( based on the many good reports i've seen here, although mostly for the larger models I must admit).
Well this guy bagged the suzy, and the Honda as throw away engines, with short designed life.
Now is this guy just pushing his Merc/yammy dealer barrow, or is there some substance to this .
I am considering getting an 04 honda that ive found for my 4.5 CC
Any info gladly received, with thanks
rando
Cannot see that the Honda wouldn't do it for you, one thing IMO the cost to repair a 4st is so extraordinarily high that your 04 model in 4 years may not be worth very much at all, I know I simply wouldn't consider a 8 year old 4st unless it was cheap enough to offset most of the risk which would mean near a wrecker purchase price.
Not saying it will not give good service just sometimes insulating from the poor man pays twice syndrome so typical in this country can be a worthy spend.
BTW there is a reason why many choose the yam, is because they got it pretty close to right, is the Honda or the Zuk 50 also a 40hp in another rating?
cheers fnq
Tim_N
27-06-2008, 12:42 PM
I've got a 50 Yammie 4 stroke, 2002 carby model on the back of a Fisher 450 plate centre console. It is a heavy, deep vee rig. Yesterday, for example, I did 114 km for 34 l of juice. It has over 1000 hours on it and runs sweet.
These engines are excellent of fuel, and most of all, they are reliable. I would buy another Yamaha 4 stroke tomorrow, no question.
Tim
simbasi
05-08-2008, 02:13 PM
Hi Mate,
We just bought a hornet trophy 435 and put the new 2008 50hp Yamaha 4 stoke on her and it is amazing. First tank of fuel we did approx. 26 km for 20 litres. :-* It was smooth quiet and started first crank. Had a 30 HP Yamaha 2 stroke before which was great but this is at the next level. Very Happy!!!! ;D
scuttlebutt
05-08-2008, 05:25 PM
Simbasi 1.3km per litre is actually pretty bad. Are you sure on those figures?
I think all outboards are comparitively equal these days. Any known brand you buy will give you years of trouble free boating 99 times out of 100.
Another thing to consider though which does extend the gap between a good outboard and a great one is the tiller handle/extras addons etc.
I was keen on buying a new 4 stroke suzuki but I was less than impressed with their tiller handle, very cheap and not designed well at all. On the other hand the Yamaha tiller is awesome to use and well thought out
Tangles
05-08-2008, 07:07 PM
Yep the Yamaha tiller setup is a beauty,,, saying that also maybe the most important aspect is getting good service on your motor maybe rather than brand names?
mike
bushbeachboy
06-08-2008, 06:02 AM
Rando, that sounds like typical boat dealer BS. They are as bad as car dealers with their stories.
I have to agree about the tiller handle. I currently have a 40 Yammie 2 stroke with the PTT function and the positioning of the PTT switch alone puts it out there above the others with regard to ease of use.
wilcara
06-08-2008, 11:13 AM
I have the Yammy 80 4 st and a Yammy 10 2 st and I love them both, they constantly amaze me by ease od starting etc. Dunno the fuel specs on the 80 other than to say it trolls all day and hardly uses any fuel, in fact I have had to put less in it because I am concerned about it going off during the long layups it gets in winter down here with the drought the way it is.
An observation on dealers bagging other products - it doesn't matter whether you like Yammy, Suzy, Mercs, Honda or whatever - you have to concede that they are all fantastically successful brands in the marketplace with a very strong history and loyal followings. Within models there will be differences in features and specs from one to the other, as is oulined above.
If all your dealer can do is bag them, well he has nothing constructive to say. He would lose my business straight away.
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