406 gps epirb hire $29 pm

[kind_cir]

Come across this site that hires 406 gps epirbs from $29 per month for 12 month term. Short term also available as well as cheaper long term hire. Here's the link -
http://www.epirbhire.com.au/longtermhire.htm

Ps: GPS 406 epirbs retail from $600 up

[Outsider1]

Thanks noboat.

These seem to be the PLB version not the Marine approved versions. They are used for land-based trips liking hiking camping etc. But they do not meet the safety equipment requirements for boats beyond partially smooth waters.

Cheers

Dave

[Mtx]

also mate 406 epirbs are about $400 not $600

[kind_cir]

Thanks noboat.

These seem to be the PLB version not the Marine approved versions. They are used for land-based trips liking hiking camping etc. But they do not meet the safety equipment requirements for boats beyond partially smooth waters.

Cheers

Dave
They mention in thier blurb about it being waterproof, and able to float, salt and fresh, and also being suitable for marine use. They are also the same modle number as the ones in the boat shops.

[seatime]

They mention in thier blurb about it being waterproof, and able to float, salt and fresh, and also being suitable for marine use. They are also the same modle number as the ones in the boat shops.

PLBs are waterproof and able to float, however they aren't able to float upright. This distinguishes them from an EPIRB. EPIRBs, when floating upright are able to use the water surface as a ground plane for reflecting signals up to the satellites and any aircraft.

cheers

[kind_cir]

also mate 406 epirbs are about $400 not $600
non gps version yes $400, GPS version $600+

[seatime]

To add to the last post - PLBs are great for attaching to PFDs or life vests. They can be carried in addition to an EPIRB and are an added safety feature, but don't comply with state safety regs where an EPIRB is required.

[kind_cir]

Fair square, they don't comply. My post was just a little miss guided. Would be good if you could hire them as it would open another option to some people.

[peterbo3]

noboat,
I hate to say it, but if you can afford to fish where an EPIRB is required, you can afford the $375-400 for the EPIRB.

[kind_cir]

I STAND CORRECTED THEY DO SEEM TO HIRE THE MARINE 406 EPIRB

Here is what they say, coppied direct from their home page, they do both PLB's and floating EPIRBS.

We rent and sell both types of distress beacons: The analogue 121.5Mhz and the digital 406Mhz in either the floating EPIRB or the smaller lighter, hand held personal locating beacon (PLB).

Here is the link to their home page - www.epirbhire.com.au (http://www.epirbhire.com.au) . Also click on the pricelist link and it will also state 406 PLB & EPIRB. I would assume they would also do a long time hire on the EPIRB too.

[kind_cir]

noboat,
I hate to say it, but if you can afford to fish where an EPIRB is required, you can afford the $375-400 for the EPIRB.

It may just be an option for some. Or if they become in short supply when they are rerquired by LAW. For me I only use me tub in the deep blue [where an epirb is required] about 2-3 times a year when the weather is great.

[Outsider1]

You can hire the marine ones (and GPS versions also) from that site ie epirbhire.com.au, and from one other site that I could find;

http://www.epirbhire.com.au/prices.htm

http://www.gpsoz.com.au/epirb/epirb_hire.htm

You just need to make sure that you specify that you want a Marine approved EPIRB, not a PLB.

Cheers

Dave

[seatime]

Posted this response on another thread:


Hi Stephen,


An EPIRB can only be registered under one owners name (account) but linked to this account can be a maximum of 4 x platforms. Between the group they would have to nominate a primary account name, address and phone numbers. Its important to update the registration as to who has the EPIRB and what platform to prevent confusion if detected.


The 406 Beacon Register will be available online from Tuesday 24th June. This will mean immediate and prompt access to updating the registration details.


Just keep in mind that part of the compulsory registration is having a registration sticker affixed to the EPIRB. The sticker will print the HEX ID, expiry date (2yrs) and either the primary vessel name, registration number or owners name if more than one platform. So if the EPIRB is used by 4 different vessels/owners the sticker will only print one name and hence when inspected may not comply.


We recommend each owner purchases their own EPIRB and registers under their personal details.


If you wish to discuss further let me know.


Regards,


Linda Berryman
AUSTRALIAN 406 MHz / MMSI DATABASE MANAGER
PLANNING AND BUSINESS SUPPORT
EMERGENCY RESPONSE DIVISION
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?p=844472

we're gunna need to clarify some of these issues with our state enforcement authorities, e.g in QLD - MSQ (the regulatory body), Boating & Fisheries Patrol
and Qld Water police.

regards
Steve

[peterbo3]

It may just be an option for some. Or if they become in short supply when they are rerquired by LAW. For me I only use me tub in the deep blue [where an epirb is required] about 2-3 times a year when the weather is great.

noboat,
I am not trying to stir you up but do the math. A GME is good for six years. $400 divided by six is $66 per year. If you do three trips per year the cost is $22 per trip. ;D ;D ;D Plus there is no waiting, you look after the EPIRB & you know that it has not been dropped on the concrete.::)

[Hornet Rider]

Posted this response on another thread:




Just keep in mind that part of the compulsory registration is having a registration sticker affixed to the EPIRB. The sticker will print the HEX ID, expiry date (2yrs) and either the primary vessel name, registration number or owners name if more than one platform. So if the EPIRB is used by 4 different vessels/owners the sticker will only print one name and hence when inspected may not comply.


Linda Berryman

AUSTRALIAN 406 MHz / MMSI DATABASE MANAGER
PLANNING AND BUSINESS SUPPORT
EMERGENCY RESPONSE DIVISION
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?p=844472

we're gunna need to clarify some of these issues with our state enforcement authorities, e.g in QLD - MSQ (the regulatory body), Boating & Fisheries Patrol
and Qld Water police.

regards
Steve


registration sticker? Mmm what registration sticker? Does anyone know about this sticker? I've registered my 406 with MMSI & phoned to confirm they received it, which they did, but the good fellow at the other end didn't mention any registration sticker. Is this a sticker they subsequently mail back to you?

[JB]

noboat,
I hate to say it, but if you can afford to fish where an EPIRB is required, you can afford the $375-400 for the EPIRB.


Mate i know guys that fish from 4m tinnies where an eprib is required, you dont have to be rich to be able to venture past the bar... I think its a bit unfair you categorize all offshore fishers as blokes that own 6m boats with all the toys.. fact is not everybody can afford it, 400 bucks would cover fuel for half a year if you fished out of a 4m tinny.

Jas

Also let me know where you can get them for 375 bucks? retail seems to be 430...

[peterbo3]

Jas,
I'm sure that the guys in the tinnies have their EPIRB. But you do not need to go far offshore to be required to carry one. I made no mention of boat size.
I got mine (GME) from Glascraft at Murrarie for $375 in Feb.

[seatime]

registration sticker? Mmm what registration sticker? Does anyone know about this sticker? I've registered my 406 with MMSI & phoned to confirm they received it, which they did, but the good fellow at the other end didn't mention any registration sticker. Is this a sticker they subsequently mail back to you?




HR,

There will be a huge mail out of the registration stickers shortly.
All existing registered beacons will need to attach the sticker when recieved. From then on new registrations will recieve a sticker as part of registration.
The sticker is confirmation of registration and will satisfy state regs for "confirmation of registration" if inspected by police or B&FP. Stickers will need to be renewed every 2 years, which can be done online.
These stickers will make it difficult for those wanting to share a beacon. As of 24th June rego details can be updated online, but the new owner may have to wait for a new sticker to be sent out, then change details back again when the beacon goes to another boat?

[the gecko]

So if I have my 406 epirb on the boat , and I have a plb on my lifejacket, and I go oveboard and set off the plb, is this signal received in the same way as any 406epirb? The authorities dont know what type of unit is sending the distress signal, and its just a compliance issue, cos I need a 406 epirb that floats upright and is labelled?

If a digital epirb is accurate on locating me, why would I pay 200 extra for a gps unit? Whats the time delay in getting a position from a 406epirb?

TIA
Andrew

[peterbo3]

The GPS unit would be really handy down south in colder water where your life expectancy is around 1-2 hours in winter. Up here, the critters tend to get you before hypothermia does.

[LoungeLizard]

So if I have my 406 epirb on the boat , and I have a plb on my lifejacket, and I go oveboard and set off the plb, is this signal received in the same way as any 406epirb? The authorities dont know what type of unit is sending the distress signal, and its just a compliance issue, cos I need a 406 epirb that floats upright and is labelled?

Have a read here http://beacons.amsa.gov.au/documents/Beacon_brochure.pdf


If a digital epirb is accurate on locating me, why would I pay 200 extra for a gps unit? Whats the time delay in getting a position from a 406epirb?

TIA
AndrewA 406 epirb is only accurate to 5km, which is still a pretty big area to search especially in rough seas. The GPS version is accurate to within a few meters.

[Mtx]

this is in now way a shot at anyone, it is not meant to be offensive at all.

if you are going in open water, ragardless of the size of boat or where etc. Surely above everything else, safety should be your main concern.

If you cannot afford an epirb as a necessary safety item then perhaps looking for an alternative hobby may be a good move.

Let's face it, $400 - $600 on top of the purchase of any decent boat that you intend travelling into open water in ( now I am not talking about a $500 special that has been lying around someones yard for 100 years) is not a massive investment especially when it is a safety item.

You should look at safety first, then boat and then add ons such as tackle etc.
worst comes to worst, fish with handlines but make sure you have the epirb.

[seatime]

here's a link that's been posted on threads before:
http://www.boatus.com/foundation/Findings/findings39/default.htm

Not sure how relevant it is but worth a read nonetheless.

If SatNav or Chine read this thread they may be able to comment on G-EPIRBs.
If it was me, and I could afford one, I'd look at one of the GPS enabled EPIRBs.

[JB]

Thanks Peter, thats the best price i've heard of so far.

[marco]

You can hire the marine ones (and GPS versions also) from that site ie epirbhire.com.au, and from one other site that I could find;

http://www.epirbhire.com.au/prices.htm

http://www.gpsoz.com.au/epirb/epirb_hire.htm

You just need to make sure that you specify that you want a Marine approved EPIRB, not a PLB.

Cheers

Dave

question for gelsec ,
how can these guys offer a hire service when as explained in one of your posts that you cant even borrow one from a mate , seems to me that hiring one is illegal . what do you think gelsec ?

secondly those stickers you speak of , i see nothing in the legislation about them therefore it is not a requirement that you can be fined for , would you agree with that gelsec ?


cheers
mark

[seatime]

question for gelsec ,
how can these guys offer a hire service when as explained in one of your posts that you cant even borrow one from a mate , seems to me that hiring one is illegal . what do you think gelsec ?

don't know how the hiring works now, or how it will work after the state regs come into force.

secondly those stickers you speak of , i see nothing in the legislation about them therefore it is not a requirement that you can be fined for , would you agree with that gelsec ?

the requirement in the regs is for mandatory registration, the AMSA stickers will be confirmation of registration and satisfy the state regs. the authorities will be able to check if your beacon is registered by looking at the sticker. if you don't recieve a sticker by the due date, it would be advisable to carry the confirmation letter that is sent out after registering. whether or not you're fined is up to the enforcement officer.

cheers
mark

AMSA are happy to provide answers to queries, do as I did, ring them up and ask.

regards
Steve

[marco]

AMSA are happy to provide answers to queries, do as I did, ring them up and ask.

regards
Steve

i was more curious as to your opinion as you are the one posting the rules up , i know how to read the legislation and it differs to what you have been posting in some cases , so is this a case of passing off recommendations as law or is it actually law ?

[Bear001]

has anyone actually hired one of those EPIRB's. We are coming up to Gladstone in our hornets in Sept/Oct & were going to hire one. We probably wont even go more than our 2nm offshore, but if the weather is good, we sure will - plus we want safety first in unknown area anyhow. We only fish saltwater once a year or two so EPIRB is a bit pricey for us.

Even better, anyone want to hire one they wont be using to us for 10days or so. I will make some calls/emails (so I have it in writing) to the appropriate authority for some clarification.

Thanks
Cind