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Gold_Coast_Chaser
06-04-2008, 01:37 PM
Me and Tom (coomera-champ101) went fishing in the Nerang river today using lures such as SX40's, Jackals chubbys, Halco's, RMG's, Gulp plastics, and others chasing bream for the first time and came home with a grand total of '0'.>:( What were we doing wrong???:-/ these are supposed to be the gun lures??? we tried everything, slow retrieve, fast, twitch, not twitch, walk the dog and still no success. We casted towards structure including jetties, pontoons, rockwalls, submerged trees around the isle of capri/Little talebudgera creek (were another boat was catching bream nearly every cast using bread with no weight),

has anyone got any advice to help us get some results when fishing for bream with lures, as we are also planning to go out tomorrow.

Gold_Coast_Chaser
06-04-2008, 02:03 PM
mate i would have used bread as well, match the hatch on the day. very important skill to learn, one time a canal owner was hosing his driveway down and the rotty had done a big snappa on the pavers, soon as that stuff hit the water the bream went wild, not easy to get it to stay on a hook though.

good luck

Does it sound like we were doing it right though???? i think the bream were sitting on the bottom and these lures only go down max 1m deep, could this be a problem?? The weather was shocking, but everyone else around us was still catching fish which frustrated us even more. Anyone got any spots around the nerang river that are ideal for HB lures???

nick-o83
06-04-2008, 02:42 PM
Mate,

you just need to keep putting in the hours and you will crack it. Doesn't sound like you were doing anything wrong at all, sometimes you will have days like you had today which makes the days you finally boat a few fish all the more sweeter. Don't let it get to you, just keep trying!!!!

All the best for next time,

Nick.

the gecko
06-04-2008, 03:28 PM
The hardbodies are only meant to dive to 1m. Use Sps to get down the bottom. Start with 1/4 oz, and work down to lighter jigheads. If you can feel the bottom ok, then go to the next one like 1/8th, and so on. Dont start with 1/40 until you can feel bottom.

Get out of the main river and into some canals that have less current. Sounds like your not getting close enough to the structure. Put the lures even closer to the structure.

Jump onto youtube and search 'abt fishing' and watch how close they cast. If it was easy, wed all be champs.

Give the HBs a rest and stick with the Gulps marty told you to use. they are easier to get bites on.

What time of day was it?

Andrew

breamnut
06-04-2008, 03:52 PM
id have to dis agree that comments, hardbodies,gulp,normal oil based plastics and surface lures all have a time or place. bream are or can be hard to catch and the only way you will learn propery is to put the hours in and experiment all the time. you will deffinently NOT need 1/4 to 1/8 in the canals, but 1/16 to 1/40th. if there is alot of run go a little heavier but 1/12th is all you will need for goldy canals. 4lb leader is a good choice. you will need to find whether the back or canls are working better (aka back or narang) or the main river on the day because it varies
gulp are great but there are times when normal oil based plastics work better.
hard bodies and plastics are completly different too, sometimes a plastic will work better and sometimes a gulp will. then there are different types of hb's there are shallow,medium and deep runners there are also fatter profile lures such as jackal chubbies and smith camion to more slender types like the eco gear mx 48 bassday suger minnows.
breamin is a big circle to what works best at the time.
we fish goldy quite alot and alot of the time the bream are not sitting under the pontoons and they will be feeding on the flats or on the drop offs. when they are on the drop offs a plastic may not cause enough disturbance that is were u need a decend hard body like a smith camion dredge or deep jackal then again you may need something with a more suttle approch such as a plastic.
there is just soooooo much to learn and no matter who you are you will never figure the fish out. sometimes the fish just get spooky and have lock jaw and just wont eat.
you also need to have a good variety of plastics such as gulp and oil based plastics they bream may wont a minnow style plastis one day and a wriggler style the next and then a gulp the next.;D
jsut so much to learn and eventually you will crack a pattern on a hard days fishin (like you had)
good luck

Gold_Coast_Chaser
06-04-2008, 04:00 PM
The hardbodies are only meant to dive to 1m. Use Sps to get down the bottom. Start with 1/4 oz, and work down to lighter jigheads. If you can feel the bottom ok, then go to the next one like 1/8th, and so on. Dont start with 1/40 until you can feel bottom.

Get out of the main river and into some canals that have less current. Sounds like your not getting close enough to the structure. Put the lures even closer to the structure.

Jump onto youtube and search 'abt fishing' and watch how close they cast. If it was easy, wed all be champs.

Give the HBs a rest and stick with the Gulps marty told you to use. they are easier to get bites on.

What time of day was it?

Andrew

Hey Gecko, we fished from 6am - 1pm

jackextracter
06-04-2008, 04:09 PM
Get your self some ecogear vx 35 blade these are the best on the market for bream at the momment IMO.

Pistol_P
06-04-2008, 06:39 PM
mate i would have used bread as well, match the hatch on the day. very important skill to learn, one time a canal owner was hosing his driveway down and the rotty had done a big snappa on the pavers, soon as that stuff hit the water the bream went wild, not easy to get it to stay on a hook though.

good luck

Not wrong....The Noosa waters Bream go crazy over a freshly laid nugget.

Get yourself some of those handy gloves from woolworths before you bait up.

Pete

alleycat
06-04-2008, 07:24 PM
I have found great success on bream with 3 inch berkley minnows in smelt scales matched with 1/8th oz tt heads in no 2 hook, also nails the flathead, caught 20 bream in just over an hour 2 years back near tiplers using same rig.

corby12
06-04-2008, 07:31 PM
totaly agree with Breamnut, i prefished the nerand on the sat before a tournement earlier in the year and caught plenty of good fish. come sunday, comp day everything wa different. the lures i had tied on did not catch a fish, it took me the first 2 hours to crack the pattern. I also agree with jack extractor the vx35 is certainly a great lure but the fish will also shut down on them at times too. be patient, dont give up and good luck

loophole
06-04-2008, 08:50 PM
yer days like that give ya the sh1#s but keep at it youll eventually get em mate

breamnut
06-04-2008, 09:51 PM
the vx 35's are such an awsome lure and will be in everyones box this years qualafying rounds of abt at tweed/goldy.
although they are $18 for a piece of metel! yes i have bought them because of how good they are but wait till the TT,s blades come out almost the same thing for around $10-$12 i herd, i got one of these a few months back while they were still testing out the prototypes and fished with a mate using vx 35's no difference

the gecko
07-04-2008, 11:30 AM
yeah breamnut is right, 1/4-1/8 is to heavy for a canal, Id only use that weight in strong current like main river. Its just an example of how you need to 'feel' the bottom for beginners on sps.

The Berkley dvd with Adam Royter is another good spot to start learning sps. Get it at most tackle shops.

6am start is ideal, looks like you just had bad luck.

Andrew

reelemin1974
09-04-2008, 11:40 PM
Yeah I pre-pepare my dogs 'Nuggets' by feeding him a diet rich in pilchards. His milk is laced with tuna oil, and I make him wait till I go fishing as we all know, 'Fresh is Best.'

reelemin1974
09-04-2008, 11:42 PM
not easy to get it to stay on a hook though.

good luck


Feed a bit of aquadhere into his diet and some small strands of cotton, helps bind it all together!!