Green Zone speaker at VMR Brisbane

[TheRealAndy]

From David Massam - VMR Brisbane.


I have made arrangements through Vicki Darling MP for a guest speaker to do a presentation on the new Moreton Bay fishing zones, rules and changes on Wednesday evening 23 April 2008, commencing at 19.30 at VMR Brisbane base.She will have maps and handouts, and following the presentation, there will be an opportunity for question time.
All VMR Members,and affiliated groups are invited, and friends are welcome, refreshments will be served, and the bar will be open at members prices. For more info contact David Massam [sandgate{at}vmraq.org.au]

I will be attending.

[Lucky_Phill]

Andy, can you put up the full address for this gig ?

Do we have to nominate that we are coming ?

Thanks Phill

[TheRealAndy]

Sure, the address is Sindbad street (number 2 i think, where allpass pde becomes sinbad street) Shorncliffe. You can miss the place, its the first building on the mouth of cabbage tree creek.

I will track down Dave on the weekend to find out if they want numbers.

[Lucky_Phill]

Thanks Andy

[TheRealAndy]

Rock on up apparently!

[BrewGuru]

Us Ausfisher's should appear on mass I reckon.

[TheRealAndy]

The more the merrier. Its important for people from the northside to turn up because there is a significant green vote in the coastal areas a we need to remind our local members that the rest of us are still here and our vote still counts. Vicki Darling I think is very aware of the situation, as she does spend quite a significant time attending marine events at shorncliffe.

[Searaider 2]

Bump ......

[harry_h01]

I've got a leave pass to attend.

Anyone else?

Harry

[TheRealAndy]

I will be there. I just tried to call Dave Massam to confirm its still on, but no answer. Will try again a bit later on.

[Chris Ryan]

Working on that. Should be there.

[TheRealAndy]

Just spoke with Dave. Its still on an he informed me that it was advertised in the VMR rag Boat Talk.

As read in the boat talk:


Peter Shooter from EPA will be our guest for a presentation on the new fishing zones and rules including bag limits. This night is open to all VM Members, Affiliated Groups and friends and the public. The presentation will take approximately 1 hour with handouts for everyone, and after a refreshment break there will be an opportunity for questions from the floor.

A must for anyone who fishes in the bay.

Please wear VMR or Affiliated Groups club shirt or uniform, and name badge for identification purposes.

[harry_h01]

Gives me a chance to wear my new Ausfish shirt also

[Chris Ryan]

Just spoke with Dave. Its still on an he informed me that it was advertised in the VMR rag Boat Talk.

As read in the boat talk:

Peter Shooter from EPA will be our guest for a presentation on the new fishing zones and rules including bag limits.


Well count me in as a starter. Peter has been at the rallies and is an expert in long winding answers taking you on a journey.

:)

Chris

[TheRealAndy]

I was thinking that name sounded familiar. Was he the speaker at the rally that kicked off from eagle farm?

[Horse]

How can he tell us about the new Green Zones and new bag limits?
These things are supposedly in the review process at the moment. It looks like they skipped the chore of reading and anayzing our responses and have decided to push the proposals through.
At least they could have pretended and kept quiet for a while

[Chris Ryan]

Yuppers - he was the guy at the Eagle Farm rally.

I have had quite a pressing family issue come up which will prohibit me from attending. Sorry guys.

[TheRealAndy]

I will hunt down those with ausfish shirts. I am yet to buy one (although it is coming real soon).

[harry_h01]

My thoughts and feelings on last night.

Firstly it was nice to meet a couple of new AusFish faces and have a quick chat to them, then let the fun begin.

It felt like we should of all of been given pineapples at the start of the discussion. We were spoken to, not discussed with, the changes happening in the Bay. When we finally interupted the pre-rehearsed speech to ask questions, we got round about answers.

In all, we will not see the final submission before it is LAW. We will not know where the lines of each zones are, and he had no answers about how we were suppose to know, except, it is on the map. There will be an amnesty period by the partols to say, you are in the wrong spot, but, it will be short and sweet.

The man was short on facts, full of hot air, and limited in his responce or patience to answering our questions. He didn't like to be put on the spot, nor did he like to be questioned by one of the Local wives of a Prawn Trawler operator.

In all it was a good night to meet some new AusFish faces, and to feel the sharp thorns of the pineapple being inserted by the EPA.

I look forward to seeing Captain Bligh and her ship of Fools sink at the next election if they don't listen to the submissions and suggestions put in against the changes.

Harry

[FNQCairns]

Sorry Blokes about how it is turning out, same outcome as on the GBR, there was never any chance of decency shining through, whatever regional populace cops it next time be assured they will handle it the same way and loose all as a result, they are lucky we on the whole are a apathetic and non proactive bunch.

cheers fnq

[PinHead]

glad i didn't go..that guy is great with his mouth and pathetic with his ears..he does not give a rats what anyone wants to know..all he does is recite the EPA creed. If he keeps saying the same things oftne enough he may even start to believe it soon.

Amnesty period?? no one will police the green zones and ..if they do catch me..I won't have a GPS on board anyway so they can buy me one if they want.

[Mike Delisser]

glad i didn't go..that guy is great with his mouth and pathetic with his ears..he does not give a rats what anyone wants to know..all he does is recite the EPA creed. If he keeps saying the same things oftne enough he may even start to believe it soon.

Quite a detailed description from some one who didn't go Greg.

[Chris Ryan]

Sorry I couldn't get there lads. My brother broke his ankle badly so had to miss it.

The speaker of the night, Mr Shooter is a long time Labor member. He was running in the State Elections (in 2001 up against Mike Horan (National)) and was the Assistant General Secretary for the Party in Qld.

Some interesting reading on him if you google it.

It is no wonder he is in a senior advisory role to the Minister in the most powerful government department in QLD and is the public workhound. He is so experienced in this directing and conducting issues in politics.

Chris

[TheRealAndy]

Yeah its a shame you couldn't make it Chris. I thought you did a great job at putting him on the spot at the Eagle Farm rally. Needless to say, it was the exact same rubbish that he put foward at Eagle Farm, and once again he was unable to answer specifics about the area, ie he had no idea at all.

What I did find interesting was that Vicki Darling made a submission. She said that she is happy to make it available, so I might try track it down.

[PinHead]

Quite a detailed description from some one who didn't go Greg.

he was the same bloke that was at the Eagle Farm rally and would not answer my question..so what was the point of going and listening to his drivel again.